Patrem

"Must be another one..."

This is the page for the ascended spirit Patrem.
You may be looking for his human self, Hank Hubbard, or his transcended self - Kelbris.

Patrem

Patrem's avatar on the Within Hubris Forums.

Name	Patrem
Alias	/Patrem\ Father False Father
Affiliation	Lunar Children
Gender	Male
Status	Ascended
Relations	Diana Hubbard (Wife) Ben Hubbard (Son) Mat Hubbard (Stepson) Jeremy Jarvis (Friend) Old Man (Friend) Vincent Adams (Vessel) Greth (Vessel) Hank Hubbard (Original Self) Kelbris (Alternate Self)

Patrem is one of the main antagonists of Johnisdead. Being the Ascended spirit of Hank Hubbard, the founder of the Lunar Children, Patrem holds many forces at his command. Though he has many powerful abilities such as the ability to manipulate time and memories, he still often finds himself trapped within the bodies of others and uses them as hosts, such as with Vincent Adams and Greth.

Story

Patrem is the ascended spirit of Hank Hubbard. He came into existence on April 23rd, 2002 when Hank was killed and inadvertently ascended by his adopted son Mat. This same event also resulted in the creation of Hank's transcended self, Kelbris. As an ascended spirit, Patrem carried on his duties of leading the Lunar Children as "Father". It is assumed that Patrem would mainly communicate with and issue commands to the cult from the Paralellos through Listening Devices.

In early 2011, Patrem would occasionally communicate with Max on the Within Hubris Forums. He eventually managed to lure him to a park when Max and his family visited Florida. Here, Patrem abducted Max. Max's soul was later absorbed by Tenebris and fused with Ben's to create the entity known as Drowned. Months later on Undecim Nocte 2011, Patrem oversaw Kevin's ascension into Regiminis. However, this ceremony went awry when Drowned escaped Tenebris's control. As a result, John was somehow killed as a result of the ascension, resulting in him inadvertently becoming Regiminis's conduit. Before Regiminis could properly utilize John's spirit, it was stolen by Tenebris, who used him as a replacement for Drowned. This chaos also damaged Patrem, who became trapped within the body of Vincent Adams.

Patrem had limited control while within Vincent, only able to freely move about by controlling Vincent whenever he fell asleep. Patrem's presence also resulted in Vincent suffering from insomnia and amnesia, meaning he was unaware of his history with the cult and Patrem's existence. Despite being trapped within Vincent, Patrem was still able to occasionally commune with the Lunar Children. In 2013, SKM attempted to kill Patrem by trapping his spirit on a laptop and destroying the device. This was unsuccessful, however, as Patrem later manifested unharmed.

On February 19th, 2015, Patrem joined the Within Hubris Forums and began contacting the players. Here, he would occasionally give them cryptic advice while taunting their efforts. On April 4th, Patrem attended the Blood Moon Ritual, where the Lunar Children contacted him via a listening device before sacrificing a new recruit in Luna's honor. On February 20th, Patrem threatened Drowned, who had contacted the players on Skype. This happened again on May 14th, though this time it resulted in Patrem losing some of his energy. It was later revealed that SKM intentionally used Drowned as bait to cause Patrem to over-exert himself, giving SKM and the players an opportunity to speak a few days later. Patrem soon returned, however, chasing SKM off of the forums.

On May 21st, SKM contacted the players on Within Hubris once again. Patrem threatened SKM, but he was still weakened. SKM used this opportunity to "cut up" Patrem's spirit and trap him in the "/key592" directory on Johnisdead.com. This was only temporary, however. On June 9th, the players attempted to explain everything that was going on to Tyler. Unfortunately, Patrem interfered with their efforts, blocking all of their proof from being seen by Tyler. The next day, Patrem confirmed this was his doing and taunted the players further. On August 4th, Patrem had a conversation with Tenebris on Within Hubris, during which he suggested that Tenebris give up John's spirit, as Regiminis was growing impatient. Here, Tenebris revealed that he would release John's spirit in exchange for Ben's, though Patrem replied that Ben's spirit was currently even out of his own reach.

On Undecim Nocte 2015, the players were able to rescue Tyler from the cult's grasp, foiling their plans. On March 1st, 2016, Patrem announced that the Lunar Children would have a second opportunity to capture Tyler on April 23rd, 2016. This plan went awry as well, however, and the Lunar Children were unable to capture Tyler. On the night of April 23rd, Patrem was mysteriously removed from Vincent's body and "pulled into" some other location. This occurred shortly before the Cataclysm destroyed The Spire and most of the Lunar Children.

Patrem was not heard from again until October 11th, 2018 when it was revealed that he was now housed within Greth's body. When exactly Greth came into contact with Patrem is unknown, though over the course of the previous year, Patrem's presence had been causing him a great deal of insomnia. After the players put Greth to sleep through the submission of the "Goron Lullaby", Patrem gained full control of Greth. Patrem then proceeded to confront Tyler on April 23rd, 2019, chasing him into the Parallelos via the Detour Sign.

What happened to Patrem after this is currently unknown. He seems to have become awakened of the true nature of the world at some point, now being guided under a "master" of sorts - likely Synchron.

Personality

Most of the time, Patrem carries himself very highly, speaking in a grandiose fashion as he boasts of his power while taunting the players. Despite this, there are times where he acts more cordially while interacting with them. Since his resurgence on Within Hubris in 2020 after supposedly meeting Synchron, however, he speaks much more humbly and in a more cryptic fashion.

Patrem

Delving deeper into madness after changing the book he moved the pages and hid them in the bindings of "Something people would least expect to observe my secrets in" as he said. The cover is not the original one that bound the pages like the symbols that mask the spirit of the works in these spheres. Gifted with the holy lunacy, his persuit for her shaped the world around him. The reality of the board is malleable, anyone gifted like that can will what they want. I wonder what will caused his son to come out as a story character?

Alternate Incarnations

Other timeline versions of Patrem.

Astral Patrem seems to be fairly similar to this version of himself up until around 2017. For some unknown reason, Patrem was never housed within Astral Greth's body like he was with Prime Greth.

Archive

Relevant documents and files pertaining to Patrem.

Conversations

2/19/15 - Chat with Patrem - Within Hubris (JiD Thread)

/Patrem\ 12:10 AM: "I heard my children crying."
Sengi 12:24 AM: "And who might you be?"
/Patrem\ 12:33 AM: "Three of you are not as you seem."
Sengi 12:37 AM: "This one's for the record... History is written by the victors"
/Patrem\ 12:58 AM: "I am calling. I am called."
Sengi 1:02 AM: "That translates to "I am calling. I am called" or so we believe... What calls you and what is your purpose?"
/Patrem\ 1:30 AM: "I came to the fishery, and the fools trapped me inside him. Vincent, return to your slumber now. There is no home for you brats."
Oceanstuck 1:36 AM: "why were you at the fishery? who is this vincent? who trapped you in who? is this meant to be taken literally?"
/Patrem\ 1:55 AM: ((A link to an audio file featuring reversed music, loud sounds, and what sounds like Patrem whispering "John is dead now"))
/Patrem\ 1:55 AM: "He also enjoyed music. o n urn d. Now he has ascended.
/Patrem\ 2:14 AM: "What shall you know? In this time I am always awake."
Eve 2:20 AM: "Where is page 8?"
Oceanstuck 8:21 AM: "whos vincent, what are you, who are you in, and can we be assured of a certain friend's safety?"
/Patrem\ 2:33 AM: ";.n_kL?3xN+Ilk;Et8H@GnP/=+IZ79+IQ.<+@.,oEOD5=G*7ZFIK&q,+I_e?@:nh-K\:f6L= :W3FUr9/I?O%>G124+E79(uGJkWs+IQ*:K]VYFJI__;Et,;G@:^UrF5]GJ:17eAK@oC6@;?y"
/Patrem\ 2:33 AM: "yEt5E;F5Ng4E86=0K&\B7ErU$pEt80'ErU$pEt80'ErU$pEt80'ErU$pEt8."
Jacob 3:21 AM: "Is there an easier version of that answer?"
Mugen Kagemaru 3:21 AM: ((The "Inverted Song of Time" is submitted))
ADULT_LINK 3:23 AM: ((The "Lens of Truth" is submitted and used on Patrem's cipher))
/Patrem\ 3:36 AM: "You have damned that boy and I am far beyond caring for his petty scribblings, I am far beyond him now. Vincent however is someone you already knowknewknowknewknowknewknowknewknow"
Mugen Kagemaru 3:43 AM: "Is Vincent's last name Shaw?"
/Patrem\ 4:06 AM: "Not Shaw; I lielaylayed in another; I am the one who honored her first."
Mugen Kagemaru 4:35 AM: "Could the veil be lifted by a maelstrom?"
/Patrem\ 4:39 AM: "http://yshdt.com/help"
Mugen Kagemaru 4:49 AM: "Is there anything else to be found, or should we cut our losses and start over?"
/Patrem\ 4:53 AM: "Your tricks are but the humorous wrigglings of an insect. What day do you think it is child? Where has your emit gone?"
Mugen Kagemaru 4:55 AM: "But next question, what is the name of your host?"
/Patrem\ 5:22 AM: ((A strange reversed audio file is posted.))
/Patrem\ 5:26 AM: "Make your final request, I grow tired of your games and your foolish ways."
Mugen Kagemaru 5:38 AM: "How do we contact Vincent if necessary? Furthermore, Douglas' newspaper article mentioned a pastor. Who is this pastor?"
/Patrem\ 5:48 AM: ((A discolored image of the fishery is posted.))
/Patrem\ 5:48 AM: "Some children have drowned, others will burn. I am through giving you my pity."
/Patrem\ 6:09 AM: "Go back child, go back, and try to wet the ashes."
/Patrem\ 6:09 AM: "Say hello to your composer for me. I already have been."

Summary

• Patrem contacts the players for the first time. He hints that the players Tyler, Jacob, and John are not what they seem. He also briefly hints towards his identity as the leader of the Lunar Children and that he is trapped within Vincent Adams.

2/20/15 - Chat with Patrem - Within Hubris (JiD Thread)

/Patrem\ 3:27 AM: "Now that I have stabilized myself in this plane I can take a moment to explain. You think yourselves detectives, and yet you fail time and time again at the most simple of tasks. That child only seeks to mislead you. I have been watching you, you frightened sniveling children. You lack patience and you lack courage. Why should I even begin to help you when you can’t even stay on the path laid plain before you?"
ADULT_LINK 3:42 AM: "Which child?"
/Patrem\ 3:48 AM: "Fool, the one who had you all cowering in fear. Mortals are all the same, cowering idiots. If not for our mutual needs I would waste no time with you ignorant children."
Mugen Kagemaru 3:58 AM: "A name, smartass. Give their name. You might think yourself clever, but assuming we know who you speak of when we don't doesn't get us anywhere."
Mugen Kagemaru 3:58 AM: "Patrem: "Mortals are all the same, cowering idiots.""
Mugen Kagemaru 3:58 AM: "True of them as that might be, it doesn't help if you make assumptions."
Mugen Kagemaru 3:58 AM: "Patrem: "If not for our mutual needs I would waste no time with you ignorant children.""
Mugen Kagemaru: 3:58 AM: "Nor would we give even you the time of day if we didn't have anything else to work with. Show some gratitude and take our limits into account."
/Patrem\ 4:34 AM: ((A disturbing audio file is posted. This file contains the "Song of Unhealing" along with a voice repeating the name "Ben" and "You already know"))

Summary

• Patrem is now able to speak more clearly, likely a result of the players submitting "Epona's Song". He proceeds to taunt the players for failing repeatedly. He also states that Drowned is indeed Ben and that they wish to mislead the players.

3/6/15 - Message from Patrem - Within Hubris (PM's)

"At this moment my child, all we may do is wait. However I have been watching you all, and I see you enjoy playing games. So to amuse myself while I wait, I would like to play a game with the “detectives”. Should you all succeed I will reward you all for your display of wisdom. Tell the children precisely what I have told you now; What is the song that makes mother cry? Speak it then move to the fourth. Wqafi lps bpv npy dfza wyrraamam; You all have 1 hour, and remember, I am watching"

Summary

• Patrem challenges the players to a game of sorts and gives them a riddle.

3/15/15 - Chat with Patrem - Within Hubris (JiD Thread)

/Patrem\ 9:35 PM: "I am in the midst of my work child, what is it that you must call on me in such a place?"
Spirkiroid 9:39 PM: "hey dude can we get a selfie"
/Patrem\ 9:44 PM: "Do you think you are worthy of my visage, child?"
Mugen Kagemaru 9:47 PM: "Hah. Ha ha, funny. Come now. Don't be shy. That's my girlfriend's department."
Stevey 9:48 PM: "A majority of us have contributed to this avertion of chaos. Found multiple truths and therefore aided you in your work... so yes... or alternatively... don't be shy!"
Rafal 9:53 PM: "And if you think us not worthy of your visage, you still have deemed us at least somewhat worthy of your time based upon your actions. If you decline to show, perhaps you could still do us the honor of telling us something."
ihatesigningupforstufflikethis 10:00 PM: "patrem i bet yr cute"
GreyouTT 10:01 PM: "WELL, WELL, WELL. You actually posted. Now that you're here, I think it's time we got some things out in the open. For example, you seem to be sticking to PMs quite a bit there my inter-dimensional friend. Why so secretive?"
/Patrem\ 10:40 PM: "You have all amused me greatly. So despite requesting in such a childish manner, I may grant you the privilege of a glimpse at my current form. However, this may take time, as capturing and sending a depiction of it from where I currently dwell is a task of great complexity. Just as the method in which I dwell is that of complexity, and often is the cause of disrepair in electrical devices. All this aside, is there anything you request at this time children, or shall I return to my work?"
Archery 10:45 PM: "Hey Patrem, Why do you keep ignoring my PMs? Am I asking the wrong questions?"
Stevey 10:51 PM: "On what we believe is Helper's channel "M" on Youtube.. there was a shadow at the end of his latest video, do you know what it is?"
Archery 10:59 PM: "Also, what are demons and how do you become one? Can you stop being one?"
/Patrem\ 11:03 PM: "Shadow's come in many forms child. Maybe your primative eyes misinterpreted unimiportant information as something of siginificance. Also chide me not should I be sans response of your tedious masked requests, I give each deep observation prior to action. However those that needn't require said observation to begin with often do not warrant my attention for I am quite busy and time truly is finite, even for one such as I."
Stevey 11:07 PM: "I said this as a joke to my friends in our chat a few moments ago... ... how did you...?"
GreyouTT 11:12 PM: "What is the group attempting to do at the Fishery? What exactly do they plan to do with Doug?"
Oceanstuck 11:13 PM: "im here guys. hello ok i have a quick question. what are the defining characteristics of a demon? shits come up a bit in a few conversations and i think we should probably get that sorted out"
/Patrem\ 11:48 PM: "I am always watching you brats, for it is unwise to leave children unattended. As for the place of worship, my children are simply attempting to better themselves for the coming times. As for douglas, I have stated before what shall become of him is unchangeable as I have spoken previously and I have no reason to speak of what is currently happening to him, so I shall not."
/Patrem\ 11:13 PM: "I know nothing of these "Demons" of which you speak. Why must you pry me of such foolish imaginings, what next? Shall you beseech me of the monsters beneath the place in which you rest?"
Mugen Kagemaru 11:53 PM: "Someone talked about demons and we're asking in case it becomes relevant. Better to look into red herrings than to ignore the right trail when it's revealed."
((Patrem begins quoting players' messages from Skype and responding to them in his posts. These quoted messages will be italicized.))
/Patrem\ 12:35 AM: "Since Patrem is the leader of the cult we should capture him"
/Patrem\ 12:35 AM: "I would be delighted if you would speak more of these grandiose propositions. Please, if you honestly believe you carry knowledge not of my own understanding, do enlightened me. For surely you and your fellow "Detectives" are supremely powerful beings that I should not trifle with."
/Patrem\ 12:35 AM: ((A distorted audio file is posted))
Stevey 1:00 AM: "We're the most powerful thing since god my friend. We clearly have no need of these petty games..."
Archery 1:02 AM: "Ignore his insolence, forgive us father, for we have sinned..."
GreyouTT 1:08 AM: "Good to know higher beings are still capable of sarcasm. But since you asked, I'll tell you: We may not be powerful beings, but you should never count us out. We have a power of our own."
/Patrem\ 1:29 AM: "Then try and wield this power child, see what it gets you in return. If you have some plan to "catch" me, I would be most pleased to see you execute it."
GreyouTT 2:05 AM: "Tempting, but I think we'll save that for later. For now though, I think it's time us detectives fell off of your radar for a while."
GreyouTT 2:05 AM: ((The "Stone Mask" and "Gibdo Mask" are both submitted))
/Patrem\ 2:38 AM: "Do you think you have sort of control over me? Do you even understand the power you attempt to wield? Look upon your foe, and kneel."
/Patrem\ 2:38 AM: ((Patrem posts a photo of himself though it is incredibly distorted))
Stevey 2:46 AM: "More Technical issues.. huh?"
Archery 4:39 AM: "My word, you're the only handsomest ethereal entity I have ever set my eyes on, what a lovely complexion you have!"
/Patrem\ 4:50 AM: "My true intent was to show you the form I currently reside in. However the power radiated from my own presence, and the complexity of delivering such a thing to this place resulted in showing nothing more than my essence, and some scrambled remains. Pity, the sight of my form would have sent you all into quite a bit of turmoil."
Archery 4:52 AM: "Is the face found in the bottom right corner a remnant of the original image?"
/Patrem\ 4:54 AM: "Yes child."
Archery 4:56 AM: "Apologies about the comments earlier regarding capturing you. On a more serious note, is there any way we can contact Mason, or could you kindly put us in contact with him?"
/Patrem\ 5:05 AM: "I found it quite amusing, as it always is, but most certainly it is when you think you can use your toys on me."
Archery 5:10 AM: "Amusing it might be, but the statement is true, isn't it. You aren't asking us to cower in fear or kneel before you unlike before. If you do not mind, could you answer a few questions we have, including the prior question?"
Helix 5:12 AM: "Previously I've messaged you a couple of questions though I wasn't sure if it was something you could answer. In /notes, it is said that two of us must die. Is there a reason for this 'sacrifice'? What exactly is "her will"? Is /notes written by doug or you? And, if I may boldly ask again, are you against or for the idea of humans like us ascending?"
/Patrem\ 5:20 AM: "I will answer but one final question, I have many things I must attend to and have no time for the incessant babbling of children."
Archery 5:26 AM: "How can we can contact Mason ourselves? If we are unable to, could you kindly put us in contact with him?"
/Patrem\ 5:35 AM: "Mason is a foolish child, there is no need for you to contact him. However I shall tell you that he is currently within his own residence. There is more to know of him, but it shall surely come to you in time, you are not infants and I shan't spoon feed you. Now I shall depart, as this child shall soon awaken and I still have tasks to address."

Summary

• Patrem begins responding to messages from the players that were being sent in Skype, despite not being there himself. He claims that Doug cannot be saved. Patrem also boasts that the players' powers have no effect on him.

((WiP))

References

Characters
Harbingers	Links DougLunar Children: The First Giant Lunar Children: Douglas • JadusableLunar Children: The Second Giant Moon Children: Alex Hall • Kayd HendricksMoon Children: Rem • Mason • Tyler Internet Detectives CircleHunter • Dawn • Greth • JacobLunar Children: Vincent Adams • John • JoséAstral Observatory: Yugi • Wolfcat Allies DeadOne • Drowned • Erika • Helper • Max • SKMLunar Children: LiquidSaint
Lunar Children	Figures Luna • Patrem • Tenebris LinkMoon Children: Mr. D • The First GiantHarbingers: Doug Lunar Children: Douglas • The Second GiantHarbingers: Jadusable Moon Children: Alex Hall • The Third GiantMoon Children: Spencer • The Fourth Giant Elder Children Alan Alphonse • Ezekiel Konrad • Jennifer • Kylie • LiquidSaintHarbingers: SKM • MattRMoon Children: Ifrit • Vincent AdamsHarbingers: Jacob Members Alignak • Carla • Cici849 • Daniel • Douglas • Eddie • George • HarryM1 • Hina616 • Hope • Jarilo333Moon Children: Jeremy Jarvis • Jie_Lin_HunterL • Jason • Kalfu9000 • KevinMoon Children: Insidiae • Losna152 • Luke • Mason • Sheepdog • Sin_Yarikh • 1_Tsukuyomi_1
Moon Children	Moderators Chris • SpencerLunar Children: The Third Giant • IfritLunar Children: MattR • InsidiaeLunar Children: Kevin • Mr. DLunar Children: Tenebris Link Members Alex HallHarbingers: Jadusable Lunar Children: The Second Giant • Ben Hubbard • Danielle • David • Diana Hubbard • Hank Hubbard • Jeremy JarvisLunar Children: Jarilo333 • RemHarbingers: Kayd Hendricks • Rosa • The Old Man • Thomas • William Reynolds
Astral Observatory	Astral Children IsocelesAssassinHacker Group: The Gray Man • Kaiden_Zoromichi • moonman31 • Nocta • NotAHoax_M12 • Samuel Charleston • YugiHarbingers: José • yuukichan Hacker Group GHOSTBABEL • Seth • Dusk • The Gray ManAstral Observatory: IsocelesAssassin
Other / Unaffiliated	Layered Beings BUP • IIIII • Synchron • TheLaw • The Producer WireTalk Mr. Silent • Mrs. Moon Janus Entities Child • Dead • Halicord • Prominence • Shadow_0388 • Stackoverflow • Trapped Other Cody • Hilario • Hotspot • Kyle • OFA Group • Pumpkinhead • Pursan • The Jaeger • Time Turner • Randy BUP's DnD Game Flint • Greth of Ruskunne • Innsman Greth • The Jester • Max (DnD) • Munnin • Sam the Genasi