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Jacob

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Jacob undergoing sleep deprivation experiments.

Name Jacob
Alias Jayckup
Vincent Adams
Father Vincent
Antonio
Affiliation Harbingers
Lunar Children
Gender Male
Status Alive
Relations Tyler (Former Friend)
John (Former Friend)
Patrem (Former Host)

Jacob is a character who has been present since the beginning of Johnisdead. Originally appearing as a player during the YSHDT Arc, he was revealed to be a character when he suddenly went missing during the Johnisdead Arc. It was later revealed that he was a friend of Tyler's who went missing in 2009 after joining the Lunar Children. While in the cult, he became a vessel for Patrem and took on the name Vincent Adams, having forgotten his past life due to Patrem's presence. Vincent later returned in 2020 after being separated from Patrem and shared vital information with the players.

Story

Jacob was born sometime during the 1990's in Florida. It is assumed that he had a fairly normal childhood growing up. At some point he met Tyler. The two became friends, often hanging out and talking about various topics such as drug trips. In 2009, Jacob joined the Internet Detectives and partook in the YSHDT Arc as a player.[1] During this arc, the players discovered that their Link, Doug, had just recently joined a cult known as the Lunar Children. Once it was revealed that both Jacob and Doug lived in Florida, Jacob asked if he could be recruited into the cult. He was directed to Doug's friend Mason who had him carry out a series of initiation rituals that involved recording oneself staring at the camera while thinking about one's deepest fears and reciting the cult's oath.

Jacob as he appeared in an early video.

At some point, Jacob was accepted and inducted into the cult. Instead of simply gathering information about the cult to give to the players, Jacob presumably became genuinely interested in their practices. Through carrying out small duties for the Lunar Children and keeping a low, obedient profile, Jacob was able to rise fairly high through the cult's ranks. After being with the Lunar Children for some time, Jacob was later presented with the final test of loyalty within the cult - the option of receiving their experimental brain operation. Despite the fact that this operation would completely change his identity, Jacob went through with it. Once the process was completed, Jacob had forgotten most of his previous life. He now took on a new name - Vincent Adams.

Vincent once again rose through the ranks of the Lunar Children, eventually being given the title of "Overseer". As Overseer, Vincent was present at the Fishery on Undecim Nocte, 2011 - the night of Kevin's ascension. However, the ascension went awry, resulting in Patrem becoming trapped in Vincent's body. This caused Vincent to lose his memories once again, completely forgetting about the Lunar Children. He was also unaware of Patrem's presence inside his body, as Patrem was only able to take control of him whenever he fell asleep. Despite this, side-effects of Patrem's presence were still present, such as insomnia and memory loss.

Vincent as he appeared while under Patrem's control.

In 2014, Vincent began a series of sleep deprivation experiments in an attempt to inspire himself to create music. He recorded the results of these experiments and uploaded them to his YouTube channel, Vincent Adams. During this time, Vincent would still occasionally be possessed by Patrem whenever he fell asleep, presumably resulting in Patrem returning to the Lunar Children to carry out cult responsibilities. During this time, Vincent was known as Father Vincent. On March 18th, 2015, Vincent unexpectedly woke up while Patrem was using his body to speak to the players on the Within Hubris Forums. This resulted in the players managing to briefly siphon some information out of him. Unfortately, Vincent was too distraught with the situation and quickly left.

Vincent continued this unaware dualistic life until April 23rd, 2016. On this date, Vincent was suddenly freed from Patrem's control just before the Cataclysm destroyed The Spire. Vincent claims that he immediately ran out of the Spire, but not before witnessing Patrem seemingly being "sucked into something". While Vincent managed to make his way back to his house, he wasn't completely unscathed. Over time, he felt his mind and soul slowly beginning to degrade. This was the result of his body slowly slipping into the Parallelos, where he would go through a horrifying spiritual journey. While in the Parallelos, Vincent passed through a dark, terrifying forest. Though he would occasionally pass by what he believed to be other people, but he would never attempt to communicate with them. One strange side-effect of Vincent's time within the Parallelos was the recovery of his memories - at least to some extent. It seems as though his time within the Parallelos slowly undid the effects of the Lunar Children's experimental brain operation. Vincent also apparently discovered some very reality-breaking information while here, though he has never elaborated on what exactly this was.

After what felt like years and years of walking through the Parallelos, Vincent was mentally exhausted. He sat down next to a tree, which eventually grew around his body. At this point, he had completely given up on escaping and had accepted his fate. Trapped in the tree, he watched as a large storm of darkness with a tendril in the center began to approach him. However, before it reached him, an "Angel" approached him and lifted him up into the air. The "Angel" protected Vincent as the two flew through the Parallelos, where he witnessed many horrific things. Suddenly, Vincent was back in his room, having been saved by the "Angel". Though it felt like he had been in the Parallelos for "eons", the year was only 2020, meaning he was only gone for four years.

A representation of the Parallelos forest Vincent experienced.

Vincent began uploading videos to his YouTube channel once again. These were music videos that detailed his journey through the Parallelos. Players managed to reach out to Vincent in the comment section of these videos, inviting him to the Internet Detectives Discord server. At this point, Vincent was still incredibly paranoid, though he was now much more calm compared to when the players spoke to him in 2015. To quell his paranoia, the players created a separate, isolated chat room where they could speak freely - the Paradigm of Safety Discord Server. Here, Vincent explained many of the Lunar Children's inner workings and his own experiences both with the cult and the Parallelos.

Though he was now in a much better position than before, Vincent was still experiencing some strange oddities. He now seemed to have conflicting memories of his childhood, as if he were able to recall the childhood of two separate people. He described this as though he were two people being merged into a third entity. Vincent continued giving the players valuable information up through late 2020, when he suddenly disappeared. It was around this time that players discovered Vincent's old sleep deprivation experiment videos, which fully confirmed that he was indeed Jacob.

Personality

Jacob is an incredibly troubled individual, having his identity warped multiple times either through experimental brain procedures or via the influence of malicious entities. Before joining the Lunar Children in 2009, he was a fellow player within the Internet Detectives who enjoyed spending time with the others. However, after becoming known as Vincent Adams and having his mind warped via the cult's surgery, he became focused solely on his religious duties. After becoming an unknowing host for Patrem, he lost his memories once again. During this period of time, he was stricken with insomnia and woke up in strange places due to Patrem's presence. This, understandably, resulted in him becoming easily frustrated and constantly tired. After experiencing his horrific journey through the Parallelos, Vincent appeared much more "numb" to everything. Though he still felt fear and paranoia regarding the Lunar Children, he spoke with a much more calm demeanor and complied with the players.

Jacob

Troubled, stolen. Trapped in the forest while the angel workers seek access to his seed. The chemical contained among the residence of the thrice counted eye. He should safe gaurd it but does not. This makes me sad =[

Vincent

A component now being exploited for an attempted ID shell establishment. Don't ask me what that means, but I think the people trying to make that work have or are going to fail. The "aggregate source" was not "awakened enough" I hear. When they wake up I wonder who they will be in the end? I think that part might be obvious for a lot of people by now lol

Alternate Incarnations

Other timeline versions of Jacob.

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After escaping the Parallelos, Jacob began experiencing what he believed to be memories of an alternate childhood. The true nature of this version of Jacob is unknown.

Archive

Relevant documents and files pertaining to Jacob.

Conversations

2/16/15 - Chat with DandP - Letschasethemouse Comments

Jacob Anthony: "Hey, friend. Are you there?"
DandP: "Sorry, I've been having trouble with my computer recently. Anyways, who are you?"
Jacob Anthony: "I read what I believe to be you article?"
DandP: "Huh? I haven't written any articles."
Jacob Anthony: "I'm sorry, may I ask your name?"
DandP: "Douglas."
Jacob Anthony: "Douglas P?"
DandP: "..Yeah. I guess my name kinda gives that away."
Jacob Anthony: "http://i.imgur.com/kMohnwR.jpg Did you not write this article?"
DandP: "No...but that's my high school. I'm actually getting creeped out now. Are you guys from school?"
Jacob Anthony: "Yes we are. But it feels like we know whats going on. We know you are interested in this religious organisation but I don't think you should do it."
DandP: "Alright, that takes a load off my mind. I know it's a little odd to see a new religion start up, especially in this Christian nation of ours, but it will lead us all closer to god and happiness."
ADU: "Mind if i ask for the rest of that article? that is, if you are able to get it."
Jacob Anthony: "I understand what it sounds like but we've seen this happen before. This particular one isn't safe."
DandP: "I'm sorry, friend, but I haven't seen that article in the paper. I wasn't even aware we had color in our school newspaper."
Jacob Anthony: "if I may ask, what does the P in your name stand for?"
Jacob Anthony: "How could we go about joining?"

Jacob L.: "I am also interested."
DandP: "I will set you up with my friend. He will contact you through e-mail or blogspot."
ADU: "Mind if i get an email too? Email is **********@gmail.com"
DandP: "I don't think they would appreciate so many new members at once. I'm sorry."
Jacob Anthony: "My email is ***************@gmail.com if you were talking to me about setting me up. It would be much appreciated."
Jacob L.: "Mine is TheSunIsTheBestSolarBody@gmail.com"
DandP: "My friend will contact you in a day or two. I have to talk to him."
ADU: "Sweet, Thanks Dan"
Jacob Anthony: "I thank you much. I look forward to it."
DandP: "Not you, the sun. I see by your profile you don't live near me."
ADU: "It doesent say where i live"

Summary


3/18/15 - Chat with Patrem and Vincent - Within Hubris

/Patrem\ 10:39 PM: "My time is very limited. I am timeless, but my flesh puppet moves on a most cumbersome schedule."
/Patrem\ 10:39 PM: ((Patrem posts a corrupted version of the player Tyler's audio file))

Stevey 10:45 PM: "Is that.... Tylep's stuff in there? ... what are you implying? ... On Doug's old blog... Mason mentioned he met a Grey Man.. Do you know who this is?"
Sengi 10:58 PM: "Hey Patrem, who is The gray man? Can we get any clues to it's identity?"
Eve 11:27 PM: "Patrem, is there anything we can do to aid you? Or is there something that we've overlooked?"
Stevey 11:28 PM: "It seems Patrem is unwilling to talk of the identity of this Grey Man. .... we should use this time to ask something vital before Patrem leaves.."
GreyouTT 11:30 PM: "Or maybe you should be more patient."
Wolfcat 11:40 PM: "Do you have other 'puppets' at your disposal? If so, have we met them?"
Tyler: 11:43 PM: "Patrem used my thingy, does this mean I am cannon now?"
GreyouTT 12:02 AM: "Hey Patrem, what are you children at the fishery preparing for exactly?"
/Patrem\ 12:38 AM: ""Is that.... Tylep's stuff in there? ... what are you implying?""
/Patrem\ 12:38 AM: "Something about it felt nostalgic, I then quickly realized it was not I who felt it but my flesh."
/Patrem\ 12:38 AM: ""Hey Patrem, what are you children at the fishery preparing for exactly?""
/Patrem\ 12:38 AM: "They are simply playing now, as children do. I however am the one preparing, so that things may be a bit more favorable in that time."

Chuckles 12:51 AM: "hey Patrem what do you jerk off to?"
GreyouTT 12:52 AM: "What's going to happen when the time you're preparing for comes? Some sort of spiritual event or something like the moon falling?"
Oceanstuck 1:01 AM: ""hey Patrem what do you jerk off to?""
Oceanstuck 1:01 AM: "your mom"
/Patrem\ 1:27 AM: ""So maybe at some point we can play the Goron's Lullaby to put Vincent to rest, which will allow Patrem to further his plans""
/Patrem\ 1:27 AM: "He sleeps even now, in fact, he fell asleep in a rather unfamiliar location as you may have over heard in my previous message."

Mugen Kagemaru 1:45 AM: "Does the name Valoron Lyro mean anything to you? He claims he once killed you but I doubt the validity of such a claim."
Oceanstuck 1:49 AM: "i have a nagging feeling that shit is about to be thrown everywhere..."
/Patrem\ 1:50 AM: "Child none have killed me and I may never truly die. I have never encountered this man but he tells foolish tales of a liar."
Oceanstuck 1:55 AM: "idk whether to be relieved or perturbed by this info regarding a joke statement"
/Patrem\ 1:56 AM: ""Should we ask about the Spire?""
/Patrem\ 1:56 AM: "Ask me not of this."

GreyouTT 1:58 AM: "What do you think of the color Azure?"
/Patrem\ 2:11 AM: "It is a meaningless color to me. This place is quite loud, and soon this child shall awaken once again. I have time for but one more question."
Mugen Kagemaru 2:13 AM: "Will you permit the child to converse with us?"
/Patrem\ 2:26 AM: "I can feel him awakening so I may have no choice. However before I depart, I wish to clear up a prior confusion that I found most aggravating. Vincent and Douglas are two separate children, also Ibfda fd awakened"
GreyouTT 2:29 AM: "Thank goodness he managed to click send before the seizure completely took hold."
((Vincent begins speaking through Patrem's account))
/Patrem\ 2:40 AM: "What is this?"
Mugen Kagemaru 2:43 AM: "This... is a place of gathering, really. Um, what can you tell us about where you are?"
GreyouTT 2:45 AM: "It's a forum yo. You feeling alright?"
/Patrem\ 2:50 AM: "I'm really confused, I don't know who you are or what this website is. But the last thing I remember is going to sleep in my room, and now it looks like I am in my local park. I am feeling kinda of weird and my head hurts. Who are you people and do you know anything about this?"
Eve 2:52 AM: "We are the Internet Detectives. What's your name?"
/Patrem\ 2:54 AM: "Why should I tell you my name? What the fuck is going on!?"
Mugen Kagemaru 2:54 AM: "Um, Eve? Don't we already know his name? Anyway, some unusual things have come up regarding a group with a thing for the moon. Is there anything you can tell us about that while you make your way home?"
/Patrem\ 3:01 AM: "A thing for the moon? Thats a shame, there is no moon in the sky tonight. But I don't know anything about this group. Do you know why I am sitting here with this page open in my night clothes in the middle of my local park at night?"
GreyouTT 3:01 AM: "Well this is going to take some explaining. Well not the park thing, not sure about that part, but the rest of it we can explain. Well kind of. You see it's very complicated, you may want to sit down if you aren't already. If anything, you may or may not want to look back at your post history."
/Patrem\ 3:03 AM: "Wait... HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW MY NAME!?"
Mugen Kagemaru 3:04 AM: "You don't know anything? That's odd... Why would that one choose you, then...? As Grey implied, we do have an explanation for your little mystery, but we fear it won't exactly be... ... ah... how would you people put it... ...believeable? Yes, there we go. We fear you won't believe us. (Addendum) As for your name... well, someone told us."
GreyouTT 3:14 AM: "Yes well the name thing is I admit, suspicious, and you are no doubt confused by what is going on. But right now I think you should be focusing on why you are in the park right now. Now, could you describe your surroundings, do you see anything out of the ordinary that does not involve pajamas."
Mugen Kagemaru 3:17 AM: "*facepalm* Grey... Anything odd that doesn't involve pajamas or the fact that total strangers over the Internet just happen to know your name?"
/Patrem\ 3:21 AM: "I have no idea where my phone is, and the lights in the park were all flickering for a few moments when I woke up. I recall having it in my hand before I fell asleep. I have no idea why I would be in the park but I am about to head home, when I leave the park there will be no wifi until I get back to my house."
Mugen Kagemaru 3:27 AM: "OK, before you go, could you clear something up for us? The person who told us your name, they also said you helped a person who was like a father figure to you when something went wrong. Can you tell us anything about that?"
/Patrem\ 3:35 AM: "My father is dead, I don't have any father figures and I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. I am gonna go before someone steals my shit. Some little kid just walked up to me, like this young kid and just asked me if the "Purple man" is gone now, crying and shit. Fuck this, fuck everything about this, fuck you guys, fuck whoever the purple man is. I am going home now. Fuck this."

Summary

  • While Patrem is speaking to the players on the Within Hubris Forums, Vincent suddenly awakens, resulting in him regaining control of his body. Confused, he answers some of the players' questions on the forums before leaving out of fear and frustration.


1/29/20 - Chat with Vincent Adams - YouTube Comments

IIFan2001: "Welcome back!"
Vincent Adams: "Thank you it's good to be back."

TheOtherLiam: "Hey man, good to hear you're back and alright. Do you have any interest in talking about what you've been up to?"
Vincent Adams: "Thank you. Not now. I am still trying to understand."
TheOtherLiam: "@Vincent Adams No worries. Take your time. Hope things go well."
Vincent Adams: "@TheOtherLiam Thank you. I hope so too."

PAKO: "We missed you we are glad for your comeback!"
Vincent Adams: "Thank you."

The SilentDork Archives: "Welcome back?"
Vincent Adams: "Thank you. I have been lost for what feels like a very long time."
The SilentDork Archives: "How long have you been back for? I've missed your old techno stuff"
Vincent Adams: "@The SilentDork Archives Not long. As for my old music, it's been a very long time."
The SilentDork Archives: "Yeah, definitely seems like it. Where have you been?"
Vincent Adams: "@The SilentDork Archives That is a difficult question to answer. I am still trying to understand it myself."
The SilentDork Archives: "A few others have experienced similar things, and many others are trying to figure it all out. We have a chat server set up dedicated to trying to explain some weird bull shit that's been happening lately (If "lately" refers to the past nine years or so.) Any interest in joining? Even if you don't find anything beneficial out it's a killer way to pass the time."
Vincent Adams: "@The SilentDork Archives I may be interested. As of now I am not up to date with current technologies. I am using Skype but as it has ben so long I no longer remember my login info."
The SilentDork Archives: "If you want to switch off of skype, there's a new service called Discord. Not too hard to use but if you'd rather not adapt to a new platform I'm sure we could make some sort of skype group. If you want to join our Discord server, here's an invite. https://discordapp.com/invite/UPykX3q"
Vincent Adams: "@The SilentDork Archives I found it. I will make an account and join."

ガンズフォーハンズ: "you're back !"
Vincent Adams: "Yes I am."

ödesmättad I: "It's that a personal idea? Or it's an existing song? It sounds pretty good"
Vincent Adams: "It is a song that was in my mind for a while. Once I was able to, I finally played it for myself."
ödesmättad I: "@Vincent Adams that part from 2:22 to 2:43 was so good that even make me want to make a "narcotic bm" song based on that, good playing!"
ödesmättad I: "@Emerald Heart haha, do some people keep that thing of the lunar children stuff?"
Vincent Adams: "@ödesmättad I Thank you, do it."

Summary

  • After missing for multiple years, Vincent returns to YouTube and chats with the players in the comment section of his recent video. He expresses interest in answering some more of their questions on Discord.


1/29/20 - Chat with Vincent - Discord (Internet Detectives)

Xenquility 10:01 PM: "Hey, welcome to our humble abode"
Xenquility 10:01 PM: "Good to see you were able to get into discord"
Xenquility 10:03 PM: "@Upward Get this gentleman a role asap"
Vincentadams 10:04 PM: "Thank you. Thankfully it was easy to make an account."
Xenquility 10:05 PM: "Sorry for the inconvienience but would it be okay if I sent you another server? There appear to be many prying eyes in this one"
Xenquility 10:05 PM: "at least that's what I've been told"
Vincentadams 10:05 PM: "What do you mean? I'll join it if you want me to."
PaKo 10:05 PM: oh welcome @Vincentadams"
Vincentadams 10:06 PM: "Thank you."

Summary


1/29/20 - Chat with Vincent Adams - Discord (Safest Haven)

[10:06 PM] Xenquility: "Alrighty"
[10:06 PM] Xenquility: "welcome"
[10:06 PM] Pako: "welcome"
[10:06 PM] Vincentadams: "Thank you"
[10:06 PM] Xenquility: "@everyone come to welcome our new guest"
[10:08 PM] IIFan2001: "Hello!"
[10:08 PM] Pako: "hi"
[10:08 PM] Pako: ":dad3:"
[10:08 PM] Xenquility: "Well uh"
[10:08 PM] Vincentadams: "Hello thank you all for being so welcoming."
[10:08 PM] Xenquility: "Any time man"
[10:09 PM] Xenquility: "and uh"
[10:09 PM] Xenquility: "Before we explain anything"
[10:09 PM] Xenquility: "How willing are you to believe in odd things?"
[10:09 PM] Xenquility: "I know that's a poorly worded question but I guess it's more along the lines of how screwed do you think your situation is"
[10:11 PM] Vincentadams: "I am more willing than you might expect."
[10:11 PM] Xenquility: "That is the greatest thing I think I've ever heard from someone"
[10:11 PM] Xenquility: "Alright so"
[10:11 PM] Xenquility: "I guess I should start with an introduction?"
[10:11 PM] IIFan2001: "Yeah"
[10:11 PM] Xenquility: "We're the internet detectives I guess"
[10:12 PM] Xenquility: "from the remember.exe skype group"
[10:12 PM] Xenquility: "(I myself am not as I'm rather new lmao)"
[10:12 PM] Pako: "do you remember?"
[10:12 PM] Xenquility: "We've been investigating some "oddities" for the past five years or so"
[10:13 PM] Xenquility: "since about 2015"
[10:13 PM] Xenquility: "One of our members, a guy named Tyler, kind of just up and lost his memory on us"
9:13 PM] Pako: "yeah"
[10:14 PM] Xenquility: "His friend John had died in 2011 and his friend Kevin had joined some insane Lunar cult"
[10:14 PM] Xenquility: "His friend Jacob (Who was also with us) may have joined the same cult, however all we truly know is that he's missing (But probably alive)"
[10:15 PM] Xenquility: "This cult has actually been controlling an area in Florida for the past couple decades"
[10:15 PM] Xenquility: "Worshipping some god named "Luna""
[10:16 PM] Xenquility: "The original cult (Called the "Moon Children") was ran by a guy named "Mr. D" who was actually some sort of being related to Luna who had been here since the dawn of time"
[10:16 PM] Xenquility: "the dumbass managed to get himself trapped in a majora's mask cartridge"
[10:16 PM] Xenquility: "and a guy named Hank Hubbard (Who was in the Moon Children) went to start his own cult in some time around 1998-2002"
[10:17 PM] Xenquility: "He called it the "Lunar Children" and was named a traitor by all remaining Moon children"
[10:17 PM] Xenquility: "sh not yet"
[10:17 PM] Pako: "ok"
[10:17 PM] Xenquility: "After his wife had died he began hearing whispers from Luna herself"
[10:17 PM] Xenquility: "So he fucking drowned his own son Ben and was then electrocuted by his adoptive son Matt"
[10:18 PM] IIFan2001: "Matt Hubbard"
[10:18 PM] Xenquility: "But through Luna managed to "Transcend" or something into a terrifying being"
[10:18 PM] Pako: "also known as MattR"
[10:18 PM] Xenquility: "and he began calling himself "Kelbris"
[10:18 PM] Wolfcat: "what are you talking about"
[10:18 PM] Pako: "the Story"
[10:19 PM] Xenquility: "And I'm not sure when but at some point he began calling himself "Patrem" and disowned his Kelbris caricature"
[10:19 PM] Xenquility: "And as fucking crazy as this sounds the Lunar Children need Tyler so they can bring Luna down to destroy this entire earth while they go party in Luna's dimmension"
[10:19 PM] Xenquility: "Tyler's friend Kevin is now a guy named Regiminis who is an ultra-powerful being occupying Tyler's friend John's body (Though he might not be anymore not exactly sure)"
[10:20 PM] Xenquility: "Got all that? lmao"
[10:20 PM] Xenquility: "if this seems complex it is"
9:20 PM] Xenquility: "at this point we hardly even understand what's happening"
[10:20 PM] Xenquility: "but we do know where you fit into all of this"
[10:21 PM] Xenquility: "just tell me when to continue"
[10:21 PM] Xenquility: "(If you're still willing to hear us out after all that)"
[10:22 PM] ARGdov: "I got an @"
[10:22 PM] Xenquility: "yes"
[10:22 PM] Xenquility: "vincent adams is now alive"
[10:22 PM] Xenquility: "and here"
[10:22 PM] ARGdov: "oh dear"
[10:22 PM] ARGdov: "hello vincent"
[10:22 PM] IIFan2001: "yup"
[10:22 PM] Xenquility: "not patrem"
[10:22 PM] ARGdov: "man"
[10:22 PM] ARGdov: "its been a long time"
[10:22 PM] Pako: "obviously not patrem"
[10:22 PM] ARGdov: "glad you're explaining it all"
[10:22 PM] IIFan2001: "Yeah"
[10:22 PM] Xenquility: "best of all"
[10:22 PM] ARGdov: "sorry ill shut up and play catch up"
[10:23 PM] Xenquility: "they're willing to listen to us"
[10:23 PM] ARGdov: "and maybe someonecan explain how this even happened"
[10:23 PM] Pako: "they?"
[10:23 PM] Xenquility: "he"
[10:24 PM] Xenquility: "close enough"
[10:24 PM] Pako: "ah"
[10:25 PM] ARGdov: "ok caught up"
[10:25 PM] ARGdov: "sorry, im here now and present"
[10:25 PM] IIFan2001: "Alright"
[10:25 PM] Xenquility: "You still with us Vincent?"
[10:26 PM] Vincentadams: "Sorry I am taking everything in."
[10:26 PM] ARGdov: "yeah thats a lot to take in"
[10:26 PM] ARGdov: "and its not done yet"
[10:26 PM] Xenquility: "Alright, no worries dude"
[10:27 PM] Pako: "yeah its a lot :tyler7:"
[10:27 PM] ARGdov: "tell us when to continue"
[10:29 PM] Vincentadams: "Okay I am ready to continue."
[10:29 PM] IIFan2001: "Okay"
[10:29 PM] Xenquility: "Alright"
[10:29 PM] Xenquility: "so I don't think any of us have prepared for having to tell someone this"
[10:30 PM] Xenquility: "But first of all how much do you remember from the past few years?"
[10:30 PM] otherLiam: "this is dumb but should we just give him the wiki?"
[10:30 PM] Xenquility: "not a bad idea but just wanted to give a quick summary atm"
[10:30 PM] Wolfcat: "whats happening here"
[10:30 PM] ARGdov: "but yeah, xens question is the important thing"
[10:31 PM] Pako: "i cant laught more"
[10:31 PM] Wolfcat: "nevermind"
[10:31 PM] Genius: "Hold up, is that the Vincent i think it is?"
[10:31 PM] Xenquility: "yes"
[10:31 PM] IIFan2001: "Yup"
[10:31 PM] Genius: "Oh"
[10:32 PM] otherLiam: "i'm just gonna let xen take the lead on this one"
[10:32 PM] ARGdov: "yeah hes got a flow going"
[10:34 PM] Wolfcat: "i still dont understand exactly how this is happening"
[10:34 PM] Genius: "Thats life"
[10:35 PM] Genius: "Nobody knows"
[10:35 PM] IIFan2001: "Brb"
[10:35 PM] Genius: "But things Just work out"
[10:35 PM] Vincentadams: "I remember doing the sleep deprivation experiment. There was a lot more after that, that I will attempt to explain in future videos."
[10:35 PM] ARGdov: "I dont remember that but....ok? when was that?"
[10:36 PM] Pako: "yes thats techno songs"
[10:36 PM] IIFan2001: "I'm back"
[10:36 PM] Xenquility: "Were those the Sleep deprivation techno songs?"
[10:36 PM] Vincentadams: "Yes."

Summary

  • Vincent Adams is added to the Safest Haven Discord Server, where he answers some of the players' questions. He claims to remember beginning the "Sleep Deprivation Experiments" seen in videos on his YouTube channel, which is something he'll cover more in future videos.


1/30/20 - Chat with Vincent - Discord (Safest Haven)

[7:32 PM] Vincentadams: "Hello I am sorry for taking so long to respond."
[7:32 PM] IIFan2001: "Hello"
[7:32 PM] Xenquility: "It's fine dude"
[7:32 PM] Vincentadams: "I was very exhausted and had to rest. I did not mean to just stop responding."
[7:33 PM] IIFan2001: "It's completely fine"
[7:33 PM] Xenquility: "Sorry if we seemed naggy, mainly just wanted to make sure you were still okay lmao"
[7:33 PM] IIFan2001: "Yea"
[7:34 PM] Vincentadams: "That's okay. You did not seem naggy. I can understand your concern."
[7:34 PM] Vincentadams: "And I appreciate it."

[7:35 PM] Xenquility: "I guess it's good to know you're able to sleep now"
[7:35 PM] Vincentadams: "Yes I am, thankfully."
[7:36 PM] Xenquility: "Did you get all of what we said last night?"
[7:37 PM] Vincentadams: "Yes. I remember certain aspects of what you described."
[7:40 PM] Xenquility: "Do you recall what we said at the end? About what happened to you?"
[7:50 PM] Vincentadams: "Yes. I remember during the sleep experiments, I was experiencing terrible nightmares and waking up in strange places like a park near my house. The sleep deprivation was both an attempt to improve my music but to also, in some way, defend myself against my sleep in and of it's self."
[7:51 PM] Vincentadams: "Though, after a time, I was unable to deprive myself of sleep."
[7:51 PM] Vincentadams: "I was just too tired."

[7:54 PM] Xenquility: "So you don't remember any topic of possession?"
[7:57 PM] Vincentadams: "I remember after the fact. During the time that I was asleep, I would catch very blurry, vague, glimpses of what was happening. I didn't know what was going on with me during the sleep experiments. But after my body was somehow free, I gradually became more and more able to peice together the events that I was indirectly involved in."
[8:02 PM] Xenquility: "Hm"
[8:02 PM] Xenquility: "Well uh"
[8:02 PM] Xenquility: "Do you remember the Patrem guy?"
[8:02 PM] Vincentadams: "Yes."
[8:02 PM] Xenquility: "The one who led the Lunar Children cult we told you about?"
[8:02 PM] Xenquility: "Well"
[8:03 PM] Xenquility: "(Sorry if you did remember this but I'd just like to make sure) he was kind of using you as a vessel"
[8:03 PM] Xenquility: "like a flesh body"
[8:03 PM] IIFan2001: "Yeah"
[8:03 PM] Xenquility: "until 2018 when he took over our friend"
[8:09 PM] Vincentadams: "I remember a tower."
[8:09 PM] Xenquility: "A tower?"
[8:09 PM] Xenquility: "Like a spire?"
[8:10 PM] Vincentadams: "Yeah, like a spire."
[8:10 PM] Xenquility: "Any clue what happened there?"
[8:11 PM] Xenquility: "That was the Lunar Children base of operations"
[8:11 PM] Xenquility: "Kinda like this?"
[8:11 PM] Xenquility: ((An image of The Spire is sent))
[8:16 PM] Vincentadams: "I wouldn't really recognize it from the outside. I remember having a quick flash of clarity. Whatever was happening there gave me a chance to escape. My mind and body was free. Though I was disoriented, I managed to, in simple terms, get the hell out of there. I'm not entirely sure of what happened but I knew enough to know I had to leave."
[8:16 PM] Xenquility: "Good call. Last we heard, everyone there disappeared."
[8:17 PM] Xenquility: "Well, mostly everyone"
[8:17 PM] otherLiam: "Yeah, do you remember what happened after you escaped?"
[8:25 PM] Xenquility: "^"
[8:27 PM] Xenquility: "ERIKA YAY"
[8:27 PM] IIFan2001: "Hi Erika"
[8:27 PM] otherLiam: "?"
[8:27 PM] Xenquility: "she was typing lmao"
[8:27 PM] otherLiam: "yall are creepers"
[8:27 PM] Xenquility: "ok larper"
[8:28 PM] Vincentadams: "From that point on, my mind and soul was mine again. After leaving the tower, I made my way back home and in fear that this would happen again, I packed up and relocated as soon as possible which is why in my other video of me writing a song on the piano, is in a different home."
[8:29 PM] Xenquility: "So you've been back for a couple years?"
[8:29 PM] Vincentadams: "No."
[8:29 PM] Xenquility: "Okay uh"
[8:29 PM] Xenquility: "1. Do you recall when it was you left the spire?"
[8:29 PM] Xenquility: "2. What is the date for you?"
[8:31 PM] Vincentadams: "I believe I was in the tower in 2016. And what do you mean with the second question? Today's date?"
[8:31 PM] Xenquility: "Yeah"
[8:31 PM] Vincentadams: "1/30/2020"
[8:32 PM] Xenquility: "Ah. So you lost control again after you left the spire?"
[8:34 PM] Xenquility: "wait"
[8:34 PM] Xenquility: "wait"
[8:34 PM] Xenquility: "did I just see"
[8:34 PM] Xenquility: "what the fuck"
[8:35 PM] IIFan2001: "huh?"
[8:35 PM] Xenquility: "okay nevermind I think"
[8:35 PM] Xenquility: "keep an eye out on who is typing, I could've sworn I just saw IIIII (mind you Wolfcat is in here and is a piece of trolling dick so it could've been him but im not sure) [or im completely wrong]"
[8:36 PM] IIFan2001: "Oh"
[8:36 PM] Vincentadams: "Not exactly. Once I moved to a new home, I felt like things were going to be okay. Slowly during that time, I could feel my mind and maybe even my soul degrading. Everyday I felt like less and less of myself. The last video of me playing the piano was the last thing I remember up until the last week or two."
[8:37 PM] Xenquility: "So that video is from a long time ago?"
[8:37 PM] Xenquility: "Or, I should, say, when is it from?"
[8:37 PM] Xenquility: "(Also yes it was wolfcat)"
[8:37 PM] IIFan2001: "Oh"
[8:40 PM] Vincentadams: "This one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr3kM2iIIn4"
[8:40 PM] Vincentadams: "is the last thing I remember"

[8:40 PM] Xenquility: "Ah, that one"
[8:42 PM] Xenquility: "Do you specifically recall creating that piece? The cult appears to think it was created by the Patrem guy before he made the lunar children"
[8:42 PM] Xenquility: "(And I'm not trying to discredit your musical talent) but it could be possible that patrem left some sort of "imprint" on your mind"
[8:43 PM] Xenquility: "though that does sound rather odd"
[8:46 PM] Vincentadams: "I do recall creating that peice. If felt very, fluid I guess you could say. Almost as if the song was writing it's self. I also was sort of incorrect in saying that was the last thing I remember but I will get into that in a future video I am planning on. To type it out wouldn't explain it very well, I don't think."
[8:48 PM] Xenquility: "Yeah, if the cult is to be believed and Patrem did write that song, I think it's safe to guess possession does leave an imprint"
[8:48 PM] Xenquility: "That, or it was just you recalling Patrem-based memories as your soul "deteriorated" (For lack of a better word)"
[8:50 PM] Xenquility: "Have you been feeling alright since you've been back?"
[8:53 PM] Vincentadams: "When writing that song it felt like I was writing it for someone that I cared for deeply. Like I wrote a love song for someone I've never met. Since I've been back, it's mostly been confusing. My house is still normal, life more or less continues on. But it has been very disorienting, mentally. It feels like I have more to process than I realize."
[8:54 PM] Xenquility: "well Patrem's wife did die shortly before he made the cult"
[8:54 PM] Vincentadams: "I feel sad for that."
[8:55 PM] Xenquility: "if he wrote that song for his wife and was recalling it in 2017 it could mean the original "Hank" is still in there"
[8:55 PM] IIFan2001: "While giving birth to Ben"
[8:56 PM] Vincentadams: "Could be. It's hard to understand that for me, though. It felt like I was writing it rather than remembering it. But it explains why I felt so strongly about this non-person I was writing for."
[9:07 PM] Xenquility: "Anything else you're able to recall?"
[9:09 PM] Vincentadams: "In a way but I will explain later in that video I mentioned."
[9:09 PM] IIFan2001: "Okay"
[9:09 PM] Xenquility: "Any clue when you'll have it out?"
[9:10 PM] Vincentadams: "Not at the moment. I will let you guys know before I upload it."
[9:10 PM] IIFan2001: "Alright"
[9:13 PM] Xenquility: "Sounds good man. Hope things start going better for you"
[9:13 PM] Vincentadams: "Thank you, I appreciate how caring you all are."
[9:14 PM] Vincentadams: "Right now I'm just trying to relax and recover, I guess you could say."

Summary

  • Vincent describes his experiences back when Patrem was still influencing his body. He claims that he broke free from Patrem's control on April 23rd, 2016 before the Cataclysm destroyed The Spire. After this, his mind and soul slowly deteriorated - the last thing he remembered at that point was uploading the video 73 68 6f 77 20 6d 65 in 2017.


2/2/20 - Chat with Vincent - Discord (Safest Haven)

[12:39 AM] Vincentadams: "hello you guys"
[12:39 AM] Xenquility: "yO"
[12:39 AM] Xenquility: "*Yo"
[12:39 AM] Xenquility: "How goes it?"
[12:39 AM] otherLiam: "Heya dude"
[12:41 AM] Vincentadams: "It goes okay. Clearing my head still. I told you guys I would let you know when I am planning on posting a video explaining what I went through in the last years."
[12:42 AM] Vincentadams: "I have decided that I will upload several videos because there is a lot to talk about."

[12:43 AM] Xenquility: "All at once or over a period of time?"
[12:44 AM] Vincentadams: "Over time. It is difficult for me to express these things in words which is why I have not simply explained everything here."
[12:45 AM] Vincentadams: "I considered a video log style series of videos but decided against that too."
[12:45 AM] Vincentadams: "I came to my conclusion that I will express this to you people the best way I know how and that is through my artistic expression."

[12:48 AM] Xenquility: "That sounds interesting"
[12:48 AM] Xenquility: "Does that mean through songs?"
[12:50 AM] Vincentadams: "With a video, yes."
[12:52 AM] Xenquility: "When do you think you'll have the first ready?"
[12:52 AM] Xenquility: "No worries about rushing, I can't imagine it's easy to express possession artistically lmao"
[12:56 AM] Vincentadams: "Probably soon."
[12:56 AM] Vincentadams: "Tonight or tomorrow."
[12:56 AM] Vincentadams: "Maybe."

[1:00 AM] Xenquility: "Alright. On an unrelated note, would you happen to be in any other discord servers?"
[1:01 AM] Xenquility: "Other than these two"
[1:02 AM] Vincentadams: "No just this and id ego super ego. I'm still catching up with the internet at this point so I have not been exposed to more servers. I am mostly focusing on art and processing things."
[1:05 AM] Xenquility: "To be fair, either option would have been bad. Be careful what you say in here. Our current "enemy" accidentally showed us something that he shouldn't have and it had your username in the background user list. Probably means they're able to see what we post here."
[1:06 AM] Xenquility: "It may have just been from the main ID ego server but better to be safe than sorry,"
[1:30 AM] Vincentadams: "That makes me very nervous. Is there a more secure place we could talk? Is that needed? Do you know who this "enemy" is?"
[1:30 AM] Xenquility: "at this point we've pretty much given up on hiding information from the enemy as they always end up with it anyways"
[1:31 AM] Xenquility: "or they already know it before hand"
[1:31 AM] Xenquility: "and one of our current enemies is at least "Four layers" of one of our own members named greth"
[1:31 AM] Xenquility: "so basically"
[1:31 AM] Xenquility: "no"
[1:31 AM] Xenquility: "no"
[1:31 AM] Xenquility: "and no"
[1:39 AM] Xenquility: "we technically have a "safer" text channel but it's only safer because it lacks the prescence of one person who we just found out may not actually be dangerous"
[1:40 AM] Vincentadams: "Would talking there be safer for me? I really do not want to risk being around those people again."
[1:42 AM] Xenquility: "I mean, it wouldn't hurt to try I guess"

((Vincent is added to the "Epitome of Safety", a more secretive channel within the "Safest Haven" Discord server))

[1:42 AM] Xenquility: "@Vincentadams in here"
[1:44 AM] "Vincentadams: So it is safer to say things here? Who might be watching?"
[1:44 AM] Xenquility: "We don't really know who's watching us anymore"
[1:44 AM] Xenquility: "but we do know for sure some guy who goes by Shadowlink is"
[1:45 AM] Xenquility: "and we don't really know if it's safer here"
[1:45 AM] Xenquility: "but it lacks certain people who are "innactive" in this investigation"
[1:45 AM] Xenquility: "and maybe through some weird logic they can't use those accounts to see inside"
[1:45 AM] Xenquility: "but we arent sure"
[4:36 AM] Genius: "so in short"
[4:36 AM] Genius: "nobody knows"

Summary

  • Vincent informs the players that he will be uploading a series of videos that artistically depict his journey over the years.
  • The player Xenquility mentions a screenshot that was recently posted by BUP that mentioned Vincent. This made Vincent nervous, asking if there was an even more secure location where he could speak with the players.


2/2/20 - Chat with Vincent - Discord (Paradigm of Safety)

[2:00 AM] Will: "do not blame me for this creation"
[2:00 AM] Will: "This is only for the most trusted people:"
[2:00 AM] Will: "Me, Liam, Slinky, Thorin, Dov, Vincent, and Pako"
[2:00 AM] Will: "Do not inform others of this places existence unless a unilateral decision is made"
[2:00 AM] Will: "Same with information"
[2:00 AM] Will: "If you're wondering why someone isn't here, there is probably a reason"
[2:01 AM] Antonio: "Thank you for this. I am just nervous. You have eased my mind."
[2:03 AM] Will: "(Also the initials are PoS :))"
[2:03 AM] Melbert: "no circle?"
[2:04 AM] Will: "he is not a for sure no but this is mainly a place for people who have had "nO Outside Contact" with the "not Good guys tM""
[2:04 AM] Will: "wtf my keyboard is acting up sorry"
[2:06 AM] Will: "I don't want to create a circle of three controversy thing here so the least we use this place the better"
[2:06 AM] Will: "but the bad dude's last screenshot showed they had access to safest"
[2:06 AM] Will: "Got an idea though"
[2:06 AM] Will: "Everyone gets a nickname so if the nickname appears in anymore screenshots we know this place is compromised"
[2:07 AM] Melbert: "oki"
[2:07 AM] Melbert: ":spbTy:"
[2:08 AM] Antonio: "what should my nickname be?"
[2:09 AM] Will: "Antonio"
[2:10 AM] Antonio: "How do I change it?"
[2:10 AM] Antonio: "Oh"

[2:10 AM] Will: "Got it for you"
[2:11 AM] Lima: "oh boi"
[2:11 AM] Lima: "WTF"
[2:11 AM] Lima: "“LIMPY”"
[2:11 AM] Lima: "im mad"
[2:11 AM] Will: "is lima better"
[2:11 AM] Lima: "Yes"
[2:12 AM] Melbert: ":prune:"
[2:14 AM] Will: "we need a logo"
[2:14 AM] Will: "does anyone have good logos"
[2:14 AM] Lima: "^pretry good logo imo"
[2:15 AM] Antonio: "I could try make a logo if you guys want."
[2:15 AM] Antonio: "What should the title be?"

[2:15 AM] Will: "The title?"
[2:16 AM] Antonio: "Yes. Like, is this a group name logo or would it be a symbol of some kind?"
[2:17 AM] Lima: "i think he means like the Majora moon is for id ego"
[2:17 AM] Will: "yeah I don't think a fullblown logo would be worth the time for this small of a group"
[2:18 AM] Antonio: "oh, okay."
[2:18 AM] Will: "im going with lima's Buddhist thing"
[2:19 AM] Will: "actually I have an edgier idea"
[2:19 AM] Will: "voila"
[2:20 AM] Lima: "man i hope that doesn’t trigger something"
[2:20 AM] Will: "i would ragequit"
[2:21 AM] Will: "ay @Antonio are you okay with us using the eye of horus"
[2:22 AM] Antonio: "Yeah that is fine with me."
[2:23 AM] Will: "Coolio"
[2:23 AM] Will: "also"
[2:23 AM] Will: "Even safer techniques"
[2:23 AM] Will: "Never refer to this server as the Paradigm of Safety. Just say "Come talk to me you piece of shit" or something along those lines :)"
[2:29 AM] Will: "just as a test"
[2:29 AM] Will: "can you guys type in #safetyrules"
[2:29 AM] Melbert: "non"
[2:29 AM] Antonio: "No"
[2:29 AM] Will: "okay cool just don't want them to be lost in the wind"
[2:29 AM] Will: "feel free to try and decipher the nicknames in there, it should be obvious"
[4:21 AM] Antonio: "I am planning to upload the video soon if anyone is still awake for it."
[4:21 AM] Lima: "I dont sleep"
[4:21 AM] Lima: "lets have it"
[4:28 AM] Will: "Im here"
[4:29 AM] Will: "ETA? It's 4:30 here and i am in the process of dying"
[4:30 AM] Antonio: "Soon. Hopefully less than 30 minutes."
[4:55 AM] Antonio: "I really apologize but it will have to be uploaded tomorrow. I am sorry for keeping you up."

[4:55 AM] Lima: "you alright?"
[4:56 AM] Lima: "it’s all good, i was up anyway"
[12:55 AM] Will: "everyone has arrived"
[12:55 AM] Will: "coolio"
[12:55 AM] Hanukkah: "thanks for the add"
[12:55 AM] Hanukkah: "sorry I didnt come earlier, I was in bed"
[12:55 AM] Will: "No worries, you haven't missed anything"
[12:56 AM] Hanukkah: "alright"
[2:50 PM] Antonio: "Is there a way that I can send a notification to everyone at once? Or does it do that automatically when I send a message?"
[2:51 PM] Will: "do @ everyone without the space"
[2:51 PM] Antonio: "Okay, thank you."
[4:24 PM] Antonio: "The video is now on the way."

[4:27 PM] Will: "Sweet. You comfortable with us telling everyone else?"
[4:27 PM] Will: "(When it comes out, I should say)"
[4:27 PM] Antonio: "Yes that is okay."
[4:28 PM] Will: "kk"
[4:29 PM] Antonio: "@everyone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYaiTvwUClk&feature=youtu.be"
[4:29 PM] Señor: oh"
[4:29 PM] Señor: that's great"
[4:30 PM] Antonio: "One minute until premiere"

Summary

  • In response to Vincent's paranoia, the players have created a new Discord server where they can speak with him - the Paradigm of Safety Discord Server. Vincent and the players take on nicknames for added security, with Vincent being named "Antonio".
  • Vincent informs the players that the video Not Yet Gone was about to premiere.


2/24/20 - Chat with Vincent - Discord (Paradigm of Safety)

[6:33 AM] Antonio: "something doesn't feel right"
[6:33 AM] Lima: "Oh?"
[6:33 AM] Lima: "You alright, Antonio?"
[6:33 AM] Antonio: "i have memories"
[6:33 AM] Antonio: "that arent my own"

[6:34 AM] Furry: "Can you recognize something on those memories?"
[6:33 AM] Antonio: "yes"
[6:34 AM] Lima: "What are they memories of?"
[6:34 AM] Furry: "If you tell us we may know of whom they are"
[6:34 AM] Antonio: "i feel like if i tell you the worlld will collapse. these are not things i should remember. these are not my memories. but they are. Memories of myself and another."
[6:35 AM] Furry: "What things, if you can say"
[6:36 AM] Lima: "Who’s the other?"
[6:37 AM] Antonio: "me."
[6:37 AM] Lima: "They’re the memories of another you?"
[6:37 AM] Antonio: "no."
[6:37 AM] Antonio: "they are all my memories"
[6:37 AM] Antonio: "We are one in the same"
[6:38 AM] Antonio: "this complicates things"
[6:38 AM] Antonio: "for me personally"
[6:38 AM] Antonio: "i have two memories. two minds. gradually converging into one."

[6:39 AM] Lima: "Alright well, without telling us what exactly you remember, is there anything you think we should do based on these memories?"
[6:34 AM] Antonio: "I think not there is anything you can do in the moment"
[6:40 AM] Lima: "Did this just start happening?"
[6:41 AM] Antonio: "no"
[6:41 AM] Antonio: "but it is consuming me"
[6:41 AM] Antonio: "my mind is being split"
[6:41 AM] Antonio: "or rather"
[6:41 AM] Antonio: "merged"
[6:42 AM] Antonio: "remembering things i should not remember"
[6:42 AM] Antonio: "remembering things that somehow i have forgotten"

[6:42 AM] Lima: "well thats not good"
[6:42 AM] Antonio: "i have dealt with amnesia before"
[6:43 AM] Lima: "Should we try to stop it?"
[6:44 AM] Antonio: "I am not sure"
[6:44 AM] Antonio: "I know not if you could"
[6:44 AM] Antonio: "I am becoming aware"
[6:44 AM] Antonio: "of things i should not know"
[6:45 AM] Antonio: "Lima"

[6:45 AM] Lima: "Yes?"
[6:45 AM] Antonio: "are you or anyone here aware of the green place"
[6:45 AM] Antonio: "the place of nightmares"
[6:45 AM] Antonio: ((Vincent mentions having seen horror, pain, and terror in the green place))
[6:45 AM] Antonio: "is this the same place you saw?"
[6:45 AM] Antonio: "the llace where darkness is green"

[6:46 AM] Lima: "Yeah, we’ve seen glimpses, and we know some of our friends are stuck there."
[6:48 AM] Antonio: "the more we speak of this the more aware I become"
[6:48 AM] Antonio: "this is not what I want"
[6:48 AM] Antonio: "I do not want to know"
[6:48 AM] Antonio: "I do not want to become this new person"
[6:48 AM] Antonio: "persons?"
[6:49 AM] Antonio: "I was long for so long"
[6:49 AM] Antonio: "may I ask again what year it is"

[6:49 AM] Lima: "The year? What year do you think it is?"
[6:50 AM] Antonio: "as I understand 2020"
[6:50 AM] Antonio: "but you must understand"
[6:50 AM] Antonio: "I was in this place for aeons"

[6:50 AM] Lima: "The green place, you mean?"
[6:50 AM] Antonio: "yes"
[6:50 AM] Antonio: "the green is darkness and the only way to escape it is to keep moving"
[6:51 AM] Antonio: "the green is horrific"
[6:51 AM] Antonio: "its a terrible mass"
[6:52 AM] Antonio:as time went on I failed to continue"
[6:52 AM] Antonio:I gave up"
[6:52 AM] Antonio:the green had consumed me"
[6:53 AM] Antonio: "I felt as if I was stagnant but the world around me kept moving as if I was immobile"
[6:53 AM] Antonio: "after thousands of years"
[6:53 AM] Antonio: "millions even"
[6:53 AM] Antonio: "I was not paying attention to "time""
[6:53 AM] Antonio: "this does not exist where I was"
[6:54 AM] Antonio: "I sat upon a tree"
[6:54 AM] Antonio: "over decades and decades"
[6:54 AM] Antonio: "the tree grew around me"
[6:54 AM] Antonio: "consuming me"
[6:54 AM] Antonio: "the only thing left was my vision of the distance"

[6:56 AM] Lima: "The distance? To what?"
[6:56 AM] Antonio:The Distance."
[6:56 AM] Antonio:The storm"
[6:56 AM] Antonio:it was approaching"
[6:56 AM] Antonio:the black storm"
[6:56 AM] Antonio:tornadoes of black"
[6:56 AM] Antonio:like tendrils sent to enter the very reality I was in"

[6:58 AM] Lima: "Who sent them?"
[6:58 AM] Antonio: "This, I do not know"
[6:58 AM] Antonio: "The creatures that exist beyond"
[6:59 AM] Antonio: "they were hungry"
[6:59 AM] Antonio: "I had already given up at this point."
[6:59 AM] Antonio: "I was willing to let this abyssal creature take me away"
[7:00 AM] Antonio: "To where, I do not know."
[7:00 AM] Antonio: "The place"
[7:00 AM] Antonio: "is larger than I can comprehend."
[7:00 AM] Antonio: "do you know more about this place?"
[7:00 AM] Antonio: "Are your friends trapped there?"

[7:01 AM] Lima: "Yeah. And if it’s as bad as you say we’d like to get them out."
[7:01 AM] Antonio: "Its only bad if you stop"
[7:01 AM] Antonio: "do not stop"
[7:01 AM] Antonio: "under any circumstances"
[7:01 AM] Antonio: "I stagnated on this tree and that was my downfall"
[7:01 AM] Antonio:I was not brave enough to continue"

[7:02 AM] Lima: "How did you get out?"
[7:02 AM] Antonio: "how i got out is complicated"
[7:02 AM] Antonio: "I did not get out."
[7:02 AM] Antonio: "I was taken out."
[7:02 AM] Antonio: "By an angel."

[7:03 AM] Lima: "An angel?"
[7:04 AM] Antonio: "At least I perceive her as such. Who else could come to me, reassure me, convince me I need to keep trying."
[7:04 AM] Antonio: "She took my hand"
[7:04 AM] Antonio: "Pushed away the Black Storm"
[7:04 AM] Antonio: "and lifted me from this plane"

[7:05 AM] Lima: "Did she have a name?"
[7:05 AM] Antonio: "What is more horrifying"
[7:05 AM] Antonio: "is what was outside"
[7:05 AM] Antonio: "I know not her name"
[7:06 AM] Antonio: "unless I do?? Memories are mixed up and confused"
[7:07 AM] Antonio: "outside of the dark place was this horrible darkness."
[7:07 AM] Antonio: "the green place, I apologize"
[7:07 AM] Antonio: "Darker than is fathomable"
[7:07 AM] Antonio: "there were sounds of water"
[7:07 AM] Antonio: "sounds of fear"
[7:07 AM] Antonio: "sounds of torment"
[7:07 AM] Antonio: "glimpses of light but she assured me that was not the way."

[7:08 AM] Lima: "So she was guiding you through this darkness."
[7:09 AM] Antonio: "She held me"
[7:09 AM] Antonio: "and carried me through the darkness"
[7:09 AM] Antonio: "I was warned not to look"
[7:09 AM] Antonio: "not to listen"
[7:09 AM] Antonio: "not to speak"
[7:09 AM] Antonio: "I looked"
[7:09 AM] Antonio: "I listened"
[7:09 AM] Antonio: "I did not speak"
[7:09 AM] Antonio: "not because I did not want to"
[7:09 AM] Antonio: "but because I couldnt"
[7:09 AM] Antonio: "this fear was unimaginable"

[7:11 AM] Lima: "Well, one out of three aint bad. Then what?"
[7:11 AM] Antonio: "then we were out"
[7:11 AM] Antonio: "she bid me farewel"
[7:11 AM] Antonio: "she left me at my home hopefully safe from any of that cult activity"
[7:12 AM] Antonio: "I have to wonder"
[7:12 AM] Antonio: "Why me"
[7:12 AM] Antonio: "if there are others"
[7:12 AM] Antonio: "these memoried"
[7:12 AM] Antonio: "memories"
[7:12 AM] Antonio: "I feel like two people at once"
[7:12 AM] Antonio: "not in the sense that I am merging with someone"
[7:12 AM] Antonio: "but that I am remembering an entirely new live"
[7:12 AM] Antonio: "I can remember my childhood"
[7:12 AM] Antonio: "I can remember my pains growing up"
[7:12 AM] Antonio: "I can remember the stupid decision to join the lunar children"
[7:12 AM] Antonio: "I remember patrem"
[7:12 AM] Antonio: "but also"
[7:12 AM] Antonio: "I remember another childhood"
[7:12 AM] Antonio: "I remember another set of pains growing up"
[7:12 AM] Antonio: "It feels as if"
[7:12 AM] Antonio: "I am two people at the same time"
[7:12 AM] Antonio: "gradually I remember moe"
[7:12 AM] Antonio: "more"

[7:16 AM] Lima: "In these other memories, does the name “Nocta” ring a bell?"
[7:16 AM] Antonio: "no"
[7:17 AM] Lima: "Are these other memories entirely different from your own, or are there similarities?"
[7:18 AM] Antonio: "entirely different but there are small similarities."
[7:18 AM] Lima: "Is your name the same in both sets?"
[7:18 AM] Antonio: "How do you mean?"
[7:18 AM] Antonio: "The second memories name?"

[7:19 AM] Lima: "Yeah. In the other set of memories, what do you remember your name being?"
[7:19 AM] Antonio: "I do not remember."
[7:19 AM] Antonio: "I do not know if it is wise to understand exactly "who" the other memories belong to"

[7:19 AM] Antonio: "I already feel as though, through these memories, I am beginning to know too much."
[7:21 AM] Lima: "What does that mean, knowing too much? What consequence is there for having this information?"
[7:23 AM] Antonio: "I feel there is a strong consequence for having this information which is why I am slowly panicking. The more I learn the more aware I am of my position in all of this."
[7:23 AM] Antonio: "This if forbidden knowledge. It is very clear that I should now know the things I am learning."
[7:23 AM] Antonio: "I feel there is a strong consequence for having this information which is why I am slowly panicking. The more I learn the more aware I am of my position in all of this."
[7:23 AM] Antonio: "This if forbidden knowledge. It is very clear that I should not know the things I am learning."
[7:23 AM] Antonio: "the further it gets the more I understand why I am here and why we are all here and what this whole things is really about."
[7:23 AM] Antonio: "This does not feel comforting in any way"
[7:23 AM] Antonio: "I am doubting myself as a person."
[7:23 AM] Antonio: "As in."
[7:23 AM] Antonio: "a real person"
[7:23 AM] Antonio: "These memories coming back to me"
[7:23 AM] Antonio: "which one is me?\"
[7:23 AM] Antonio: "I am aware the lunar children have an experimental treatmens.."
[7:23 AM] Antonio: "treatment"

[7:26 AM] Lima: "An experimental treatment for what?"
[7:27 AM] Antonio: "Creating the person they want or need at the time."
[7:27 AM] Lima: "You think they’re using that to give you these memories, to try and turn you into someone else?"
[7:28 AM] Antonio: "that"
[7:28 AM] Antonio: "or hey already did"
[7:28 AM] Antonio: "and leaving this green darkness somehow counteracted the treatment."
[7:28 AM] Antonio: "I can not tell as everything on both side feels so real"
[7:29 AM] Antonio: "It does not feel as if I am becoming two people"
[7:29 AM] Antonio: "it feels like I have to learn to integrate the two minds together to form a third identity if that makes sense"
[7:29 AM] Antonio: "I think not that this has every happened before in regards to the lunar experiments"
[7:29 AM] Antonio: "If it has, they have definitely been terminated immediately"
[7:29 AM] Antonio: "without a doubt"
[7:29 AM] Antonio: "Having inside knowledge on how the lunar children operate, they have no sense of morality."
[7:29 AM] Antonio: "they have a goal and they will stop at nothing to achieve this"
[7:33 AM] Antonio: "i do not mean to end this conversation so quickly"
[7:33 AM] Antonio: "if you have questions for me regarding this topic"
[7:33 AM] Antonio: ((Vincent brings up the idea of having a live QnA in video form))

[7:34 AM] Lima: "Where should we submit questions for it?"
[7:35 AM] Lima: "When?"
[7:37 AM] Antonio: "I will let you know at least a week ahead of time and collaborate so as to hopefully not single anyone out because of life's responsibilities."
[7:37 AM] Lima: "Appreciate it, man."
[7:38 AM] Antonio: "Spread the word. We will figure out schedules and we can plan for the most convenient time."
[7:38 AM] Antonio: "feel free to share this conversation with your trusted allies."

[7:38 AM] Lima: "Will do."
[7:38 AM] Antonio: "I will be in contact"
[7:39 AM] Lima: "Take care, brother."
[7:39 AM] Antonio: "Thank you from the bottom of my heart, friend."
[7:41 AM] Lima: "We’ll figure this out."

Summary

  • Vincent begins experiencing strange mental effects, such as remembering a "second childhood". These memories result in him questioning whether or not he is a real person, claiming that if he were to reveal whose memories they were, his world would collapse.
  • Vincent explains his journey through the Parallelos, which he fell into after uploading the video 73 68 6f 77 20 6d 65 in 2017. He explains that, in the Parallelos, he had to continue moving to escape the darkness. Eventually, he became mentally and spiritually exhausted, taking a rest as a large tree grew around him.
  • Vincent claims that he was about to give up in the Parallelos as a large, dark storm began approaching him. Before the storm reached him, an Angel rescued him from the Parallelos - after which, he woke up back in his home.


2/25/20 - Chat with Vincent and Erika - Discord (Internet Detectives)

Xenquility: "hello there father"
Vincent: "Father?"
Xenquility: "daddy"
Xenquility: "bad joke okay"
Xenquility: "So"
Xenquility: "How goes existance?"
Vincent: "Existence is... very confusing at this current point in time"
Xenquility: "Sounds about right"
Vincent: "So, are there any questions you guys wanted me to answer for you?"
Xenquility: "Sorry one minute"
Vincent: "That's okay."
Xenquility: "Probably should have thought some through beforehand but wasn't sure if we'd be doing it today"
Vincent: "It was kind of a spur of the moment decision. I apologize."
Vincent: "We can stay here for a while, though, if we have to. I don't mind."

Xenquility: "Alright sweet"
Xenquility: "OH"
Xenquility: "one thing"
Vincent: "I think it would be beneficial for me to try to, uh, outwardly express what I'm experiencing right now."
Xenquility: "Anything you'd rather us not ask about?"
Vincent: "Um, if we encounter a question that I cannot answer for either my or your safety I will let you know. I would say don't hang back and, uh, ask anything that you need to."
Slinky: "damn that voice is d e e p"
Vincent: "Thank you."
Xenquility: "alright uh"
Dawn of a New Day: "Not as deep as I am in your mum"
Vincent: "Gotta admit, that was a good one."
Xenquility: "You seem to be using some odd pronouns here. This due to the "other mind" for lack of a better word?"
Vincent: "Uh, what do you mean, "pronouns"? I wasn't really paying attention to my own speech."
Xenquility: ""We" followed by "I""
Xenquility: "sorry if it's just a mixup but we've seen that oddity before"
Vincent: "Hm... Yeah, probably. It, uh... I'm not entirely comfortable with it, nor do I really understand how to process it personally in my mind. I know that I'm me but I'm having memories of a different me. But it doesn't feel like me? But it does feel like me. It's- it's hard to explain. I hope you understand. If not, I can try to, uh, word that differently."
Slinky: "Have you felt like that before?"
Vincent: "No, this is new. I don't know if I made it fully aware to you guys before, but I am aware of my involvement with the cult and I am also aware of Patrem. Or pat-rem? However you guys call him. Where things start to get confusing for me is after that tower. I don't really understand what happened there, and from there I kinda just found my way back home. Called up some friends and family, that sort of thing. And then I just went home."
Xenquility: "You felt like this ever since you woke up?"
Vincent: "Not necessarily. This is, uh... this is new, I guess. It's either new or it has been happening so slowly that I hadn't noticed it. But now it's noticeable. I have memories of being a child - as ME being a child. But then I have seperate memories of being a child but I'm in a totally different place with totally different people. But it still feels like it's me. And this is what's confusing. It's that these new memories that are presenting themselves in my mind ARE me! But, I don't understand how... how that could be."
Xenquility: "Damn, that sucks dude. Any family and friends still around?"
Vincent: ((Vincent's microphone begins having issues))
Vincent: "I apologize I am having mic issues,"

Vincent: "I believe it is working now. I accidentally unplugged my microphone and that broke everything. What was the question? Was I answering something?"
Xenquility: "Have you been able to contact any old family or friends?"
Vincent: "Oh, yes, um… So, they're around, I just haven't really tried contacting them. At this point, I don't know if it's the best idea. At this point, I'm worried. I'm scared about a lot of different things. My involvement with the cult and gradually becoming such a high ranking member within the cult, I'm aware of the lengths with which they'll go to to keep track of someone. And with this memory stuff going on, I don't think it's safe to contact them. My HOPEFUL fear is if I contact them, that puts them in danger. My not-hopeful fear is that they're a part of it. And I'm really hoping that that is the case."
Xenquility: "Damn, sorry to hear dude."
Vincent: "I mean, as far as everything that's happened so far, that's not really a big deal. I'd rather live comfortably alone then have to deal with those people again."
Slinky: "And uh, any idea if the cult still looks for you?"
Xenquility: "Sorry to jump so quickly into the bad stuff, but that's where a lot of our issues seem to stem from. Did you ever have to do "rituals" in the dark place? "
Xenquility: "actually answer his first"
Vincent: "I'm, uh, not sure if they're still following me. I'm just not sure. If they are, they've been really quiet about it. But as far as I know I haven't had any contact with them since after the tower. During the early initiation process there were some "rituals" that you'd have to go through. What exactly do you mean by "rituals"?"
Xenquility: "Not exactly sure. One of our friends from there, someone named SKM, managed to contact us a while ago. He said he had to complete rituals to keep up appearances as a good "child of the moon" or something"
Vincent: "I'm not aware of anyone called SKM. Like, what kind of rituals? Cause, we had like ceremonies and that kind of thing, but if any, uh, more serious rituals - which I'm assuming that's what you mean - as far as the more serious rituals, that is when Patrem fully took over me. So I only caught glimpses of that."
Vincent: "I've seen it described in media as like possession is kinda like sitting in the back seat of a car and you're just watching what happens, but it's not like that. It's more like you're asleep. Every now and then you get a chance to see a snapshot, if you will, but it's very difficult to formulate any kind of narrative from that, so during the time that he had control over my body, I don't really know what happened at all during that time. On the night of the tower, um, all I know is that something went wrong and, uh, he was getting pulled into some place and me, being myself for the first time in however long it had been, was excited to be myself, but I also thought it best to just run as fast as I- like just get out of here, I shouldn't be here. I didn't think it would escalate to anything that serious."

Xenquility: "Sorry, you said he was getting pulled into some place?"
Vincent: "Yeah, that was the last thing that I saw. It's hard to describe what it looked like."
Xenquility: "And that would've been back around 2017?"
Vincent: "I can't remember the exact year of when all this happened, but this was the ritual in what I keep calling the "tower", but I think you guys have been calling the "spire". The word "spire" was not in my vocabulary at the time."
Xenquility: "I mean, do you think there's a chance he was getting pulled into the dark parallelos?"
Vincent: "I don't- what is... I don't understand "Parallelos"."
Xenquility: "Uh"
Xenquility: "The dark place"
Vincent: "I don't know. If there's an entrance or an exit to that place, I don't know what it looks like. So I wouldn't want to say "yes" or "no" as I genuinely don't know."
Xenquility: " Anyways, I think the only ritual we have any details of is when one of our friends (Possibly someone named Tyler, not sure if you know of him or not) said he had to "Sleep fast" to "purge darkness within him""
Vincent: "Tyler is a part of some of the memories that are coming back to me."
Jackuan: "@Vincentadams How is been inside the spire?"
Vincent: "I'm assuming he means what it was like? It was horrifying! I just needed to leave."
Vincent: "Assuming you mean how it was in the spire, I do not remember much as I was trying my best to leave as fast as I could"

Vincent: "At the exact moment that I gained control, I ran. I took a quick glance around and I ran."
Jackuan: "@Vincentadams okay, glad to have u back
Vincent: "Thank you."
Xenquility: "When you say Tyler was part of your memories, do you mean as some sort of friend?"
Vincent: "I don't know. The name is familiar but I don't really know why."
Jackuan: "@Vincentadams u have amnesia or something?"
Vincent: "I, uh, wouldn't call it amnesia. It's just... I was absent. I wasn't there, in a way of speaking. Feel free, you guys, to ask, like, really direct questions. I don't think any of your questions could offend me or trigger some sort of PTSD or whatever."
Vincent: "Somewone are you able to enter the voice chat and listen?"

Vincent: "Everyone has their microphones muted"
Xenquility: "Did you see anyone else in the dark place?"
Vincent: "Xenquility, I did see other people in the dark place. It's hard to describe what it's like in there. At first there were people, but eventually we just kind of wandered."
Xenquility: "Anyone identifiable?"
Vincent: "I mean, identifiable in the sense that they're other people, but not anybody that I recognized."
Xenquility: "Were you able to converse with them?"
Vincent: "Uh, probably? But I didn't just out of fear. Once I was there, it was just horrifying. And that was it. It was just horrifying. There was nothing else."
Xenquility: "How, I guess expansive was the place?"
Xenquility: "Was it infinite? Finite?"
Vincent: "I couldn't answer that definitively, but, um... As far as I understand, time functions differently in this place. That's why I asked what year it was when I came back and all that. I just- I saw it on my computer and didn't believe it. It felt like I was in there for a very long time. I don't even believe in heaven or hell and I believe I had died and gone to hell."
Slinky: "So uh, you blacked out and then you woke up in 2020?"
Vincent: "I did not black out. I blacked out at the time that Patrem entered my body, like a body my same size, and that was when I blacked out. After the tower - or, sorry, the spire - THEN I was me again. And I was me again for a while. And then after that, I felt my mental state sort of degrade and then, yeah, I guess you could say I woke up in 2020, but to
me I never went to sleep. This wasn't the same thing as with Patrem. During the sleep deprivation experiments... the sleep deprivation experiments was sort of a cover up or a coping mechanism - an excuse to stay awake, because when I would sleep, I would have these terrible nightmares and it got to the point where sleeping was a bad thing. But I'm still human, so eventually I just got so tired that I fell asleep. And from that point, I woke up at the tower and I escaped somehow. I guess everybody was so caught up in the chaos of whatever was happening up there that I was basically just able to walk away."

Xenquility: "Wait uh"
Xenquility: "Do you know at what point you actually went to the Dark Place?"
ARGdov: "Do you remember much of what was happening in all that chaos?"
ARGdov: "answer him first"
Vincent: "The only, um... I can find it really quickly. There's a video that was posted on my channel. I'll find it just to have a solid time frame. April 3rd, 2017 was the last day. it was on that day that I went to the dark place. I don't know how exactly, I don't know why, I just - I felt my mind, and... I don't know if it was because of my mind degrading, but I felt my mind degrading, and I felt my soul degrading."
Xenquility: "And that was after you woke up at the tower, right?"
Vincent: "No, I woke up at the tower some years before that. Escaped the tower, tried to escape the cult. I quickly ran home, grabbed the necessities - My clothes, my computer, and all that kind of stuff, because we live in the future and can't do anything without a computer - and it worked at first. I was still a little shaken by what had happened, but I just wanted to leave all of that behind me. Because the house that I was staying in at that time, before I left, they didn't keep it a secret that they were monitoring me. Everything that they did - everything from my internet history or however you want to say it to what time I went to the bathroom. So I knew that they were there, and... yeah."
Xenquility: "Ah okay"
Xenquility: "Anyways Dov's question seems like a good next step"
Vincent: ""How much do I remember" in which chaos? From the tower or from the dark place? Which seems to be what you guys call the parallelos."
ARGdov: "The tower, I guess"
Vincent: "It was just kind of... Everybody was panicking. It's like whatever they were trying to do went wrong. Whatever they were trying to do in that tower, they had a system set in place and they expected it to go one way and then something just went horribly wrong. And that was the first time I was conscious. I was on the floor on my back and right in front of me was Patrem getting sucked into something, or starting to get sucked into something? I'm not sure, I don't know. And that's when I just kind of scrambled to get back on my feet and from there I don't know what happened. I remember a lot, I just didn't see a lot, you know?"
Xenquility: "I guess next would be"
Xenquility: "Do you remember anything blatantly important from the dark place?"
Vincent: "Um, not really... The time dilation was unnoticeable at the time, so it felt like I had been in there for a long time.
Vincent: ((Some of Vincent's answers at this point were not archived))
Vincent: "Exhaustion. I didn't need to sleep, so I constantly had this baseline energy to just keep going. But mentally after walking around for so long, I found a comfortable looking tree and I sat down and just didn't get up. I was there for so long that the tree just began to grow around my body, and I was just going to let it. I was done. I had given up. I didn't care. Close to the point where I was rescued, I saw this storm in the distance, and there had been no weather up until this point. It was just still - I guess you could call it a forest - but it was just still. Nothing was moving unless you particularly moved it. And, all of a sudden, there was this storm that was like a massive tornado, and it was very dark and completely black, and it seemed to be piercing through the sky rather than being a part of the sky, if that makes sense."
Vincent: "The tornado itself looked less like spinning air - like, a regular tornado is just spinning air - and it looked more like a tentacle, if anything, and the storm around it was being produced by this tentacle, or tendril, or whatever you want to call it. The most noticeable thing about it was that it wasn't like the clouds came together and started spinning. It looked like something had pierced through the sky itself, and along with that came this dark, smoky storm. And it was just coming straight for me. It started directly in front of me and very slowly started coming towards me. And I was just going to let it. If it killed me, it killed me. Better than being completely alone - just sitting there, letting a tree grow around me, my motivation to continue wandering around regardless of how much energy I had. I wasn't exhausted, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized, "What's the point?". It seemed like the horizon wasn't as far as I thought it was, and it felt like it was getting closer."

Xenquility: "Speaking of which, the angel that rescued you, what did she look like?"
Vincent: "She specifically asked me not to talk about that, and I have to respect her. Until I have her permission."
Xenquility: "Hm, alright"
Xenquility: "If you don't mind talking about it, what did you see outside of the dark place?"
Xenquility: "Or hear?"
Vincent: "Outside of the dark place. So, when I say the "dark place", I don't necessarily mean it was dark. It was green, like... Hm. Imagine your shadow. Like, you have a bright light behind your body and you can see your shadow on the wall. Instead of the shadow being black, it was green. So, it was still just as hard to see because it was still dark - it was just that the darkness itself was a different colour. Outside of this place far more horrifying than anything that was happening. I wish I had stayed wandering around in the forest. I should not have seen what was out there. I just... I shouldn't have. This is when we're getting into the knowledge it feels like I shouldn't have. I hope I don't disappoint you, but for everybody's sake, I don't think I should talk about what I saw out there. I apologize."
IIFan2001: "Alright"
Xenquility: "No worries man"
ARGdov: "Eesh, well thats disturbing"
Slinky: "Okay so, uh"
Slinky: "I may fuck up here"
Vincent: "Don't worry about it. If you have a question, ask it. As my teachers used to say, there are no bad questions, only wrong answers."
ARGdov: "Do you think you're in any danger now? Sorry this is kind of a shift in topic but I'm wondering"
Vincent: "I don't *think* I'm in any danger, but at the same time that sensation makes me feel as if I might be in danger. But as of right now, I don't think there are any cult members following me, and if there are, they're being really discrete. I work at home, so I barely leave anymore. It's been several years, so there's a lot of new technology to support that. It was amazing. It was surprising - I can get my groceries delivered straight to my house"
Xenquility: "Did you ever hear about something named |||||"
Vincent: ""Did you ever hear about something named line line line line line" I don't know. Is that a thing? Or a person? Or a concept? What is that?"
Xenquility: "We have no clue LMAO"
ARGdov: "Its several things somehow connected"
Vincent: "Oh ((laughs)). "Its several things somehow connected...""
ARGdov: "to be honest we're at a bit of a disadvantage atm and its a bit worrying."
Vincent: "I think everyone's at a bit of a disadvantage, if I'm being honest. There are... I have been exposed to things, places, whatever, far beyond our control. And beyond even my own comprehension when I was there. There's a lot that I wish I could explain, but human communication hasn't evolved in such a way that I can express these things. We don't have the language for it."
Xenquility: "Did you ever see runes in the dark place?"
Xenquility: "Things like this"
Xenquility: ((An image of the "Othala Rune" is sent))
Vincent: "Um... No. There was no kind of symbolism. The whole time I was there, it was nothing but just a massive expanse of forest. I must've walked - and I'm not exaggerating - 10,000 miles. I, perceptually, was in there for a very, very long time. No buildings. No roads. The occasional wanderer, but there was never any communication. At the very most, a quick look and a nod and we'd continue walking. I don't even know if they were real or if it was just my mind, hoping that there would be something there. Hoping, because I hadn't seen or communicated with somebody in such a long time. I had no kind of time-keeping tool, so I don't know how long it really was. But, at a certain point, time just kind of... stopped existing for me, and I was just kind of there."
Xenquility: "Any bodies of water?"
Vincent: "I'm not entirely sure if I should answer that. There wasn't any water where I was. No... not for me. It was purely... I don't want to say a dense forest, but it was those kind of large trees, like it would probably take three of me to lock hands around the tree, and they were very, very tall. A lot of the time you couldn't see the sky, and when you could, it was just the green. There wasn't really anything to look at. I tried climbing one of the trees, and I fell. That was the last time I tried climbing one of the trees."
Xenquility: "I hope this isn't breaking any boundaries here but when you say there wasn't any water "for you", does that imply that it's different for others?"
Vincent: "Uh, I... I, again, don't know how much of this I should talk about. Uh, I don't know if I'm being honest. I just know that there wasn't any water there for me. I guess more what I mean to say is like, for the others that were there, maybe they wandered in a different direction and there was water for them. But, uh, I didn't see any water. There didn't seem to be any life or life-sustaining elements. It was just the trees and the grass and dirt, if we're being really specific."
Xenquility: "Ever heard of someone named Erika?"
Vincent: "No"
Xenquility: "Ever saw a raven?"
Vincent: "A raven? No. There were no animals or anything. It was just a deep forest."
ARGdov: "The raven was a statue iirc"
Vincent: "Statue?"
Xenquility: "Yeah but we also saw it in some of the vids"
Jackuan: "What about Yuuki?"
Vincent: "I do not know a Yuuki. And, uh, what did you say? In some of my videos? Or…"
Xenquility: "Someone elses"
Xenquility: ""Tylers" video"
Vincent: "Ah okay. And this is the "Silentdork" correct?"
Xenquility: "Yeah"
Vincent: "Okay. I've been trying to, uh, do research, if you will - to try and understand your collective understanding of your side of the story, is what I meant to say."
Xenquility: "Have you seen "5646"?"
Vincent: "No, I don't know what that means."
Xenquility: " "LevANnhUa"?"
Vincent: "I do not know what that means ((Laughs)). Lee-van-who-a! Lee-van-hu-a! Le-ven-hua!"
Xenquility: "Luna's heaven or something spooky"
Vincent: "No, I'm not aware of that."
Xenquility: "Did the sky ever flash red?"
Vincent: "Red? Uh... I don't think so. It may have, but I didn't really have much access to the sky. The trees kind of covered everything."
Xenquility: "Did you see a white statue of any sort?"
Vincent: "No."
Xenquility: "Ever heard of someone named BUP?"
Vincent: "Bup? Is it Bup or B-U-P? Bup is kind of silly. But no."
Slinky: "What about eoeoeoeoeo?"
Slinky: "You heard that?"
Vincent: "Eoeoeoeoeo? ((Laughs)) No, it was mostly silent. It was so quiet I could hear my blood flowing."
ARGdov: "Ok weird question"
Vincent: "There are no weird questions."
ARGdov: "Did the sky ever change"
ARGdov: "color, form, etc."
Vincent: "Towards the end, yes. The sky made a very clear change. But only towards the end, because of the storm. That was the first time I saw a colour besides green. Like, you know how it looks when you're using a night vision camera? And you can, like, see through the darkness, but everything is green? That's what it looked like in there."
Xenquility: "Did you ever hear of the "Absque Fascie"?"
Vincent: "I... have heard of the Absque Fascie. I... am not comfortable talking about that. This is one of those questions. I apologize. What I can say is that I wasn't going to say this unless you brought them up. The storm - the, uh, "tentacle" that sort of broke through the sky - that was one of them. The, uh... the black storm is the only term I can think of for it. I was shown and explained a lot of these things by what I'm calling the "Angel", so I know more of what is outside, I guess. Instead of the tendril or tentacle or whatever it was coming through the sky, if you were to exit the sky yourself, you would see what's out there. THAT was the difficult part. After all of the things that had happened in the forest and all the nothing that had happened in the forest… the constant, unending fear - even seeing the storm wasn't scary anymore. I was just... I was ready for whatever was going to happen. At the time, I didn't know what was going to happen, but once the angel took me out, a part of leaving that place entirely involves going to where they are. And that place is far more horrifying. Yeah. I don't think I should say more about them. At least not now. I don't want to give you guys false information."
Xenquility: "Would it be safe to assume "That place" is where luna resides?"
Vincent: "That, I do not know. I hadn't considered that. I want to say that I don't think so, but I also don't have the information to say for sure. Do you guys have a name for this place?"
Xenquility: "Luna's parallelos"
Xenquility: "Creative I know"
Vincent: "So are you saying that there are multiple parallelos?"
ARGdov: "Best of luck to you all"
ARGdov: "and yes there are"
ARGdov: "multiple dimensions, some similar to ours, others radically different"
Xenquility: "Basically just a fancy word for dimension/world"
Vincent: "When I was brought out of the- when- It's hard to explain. When she took me "through the sky", if you will, I was able to see the place that I was in. There were more of these places contained within a much, much larger space. This doesn't feel like a place that Luna would want to be."
Xenquility: "Do you know how many more?"
Vincent: "A lot more. Once I saw what was outside, I sort of went into fear mode. Panic mode. Just sort of closed my eyes and held on tight and buried my face into her shoulder until we were gone."
Xenquility: "Does "subspace" or "astral observatory" ring any bells?"
Vincent: "Um... No. But I've been calling things differently from what you guys have been calling them, so if you could describe these places, maybe I'd know if I've come into contact with them, or if I describe them with a different word."
Jackuan: "Hank Hubbard(?"
Vincent: "I don't know who Hank Hubbard is."
Xenquility: " Astral observatory is a "forum website" that alternate universes Kevin/Regiminis created under the name Nocta "
Vincent: "Okay. I do not know about Astral Observatory."
Xenquility: "But it apparently acts as a vessel for people's souls who are ascended"
Xenquility: "Like the website johnisdead.com if you're familiar"
Vincent: "Um, yeah. I'm familiar. That is something that we paid attention to when I was involved with the cult. We didn't like people prying in our direction."
Xenquility: "How long were you actually in the area outside of the dark place?"
Vincent: "Briefly. It was sort of like a "I got you. It's time to go" and I sort of recklessly immediately trusted her, and just "okay". Anything to get out of here. It was sort of just a shot in the dark. I didn't know who she was or whether or not she should be trusted. When we exited the sky, it was sort of like - this is going to sound silly - a gelatinous kind of feeling? Like it was kind of solid, but it wasn't literal sky, you know. It had, for lack of better words, a kind of "Bloop!" feeling to it. Kind of like Mario 64 when he jumps through the paintings. Just like a ripple effect, but thicker... like a slick slime without residue. It was unreasonably far away. No way I could have reached it on my own."
Xenquility: "Does the name "Ghostbabel" ring any bells?"
Vincent: "Nope."
Xenquility: "Rosa?"
Vincent: "Rosa rings a single bell, but only because I know the name."
Xenquility: "Some girl who was forced into Luna's parallelos as a punishment"
Xenquility: "and it was apparently so fucking horrible"
Xenquility: "but uh"
Xenquility: "then she became psychic and knows everything"
Vincent: "Did she also escape or get rescued somehow?"
Xenquility: "Luna just flat out released her"
Vincent: "Oh. That doesn't sound good. Yeah, I don't know anything about all of that. My understanding was that the "Parallelos" as you call it ISN'T, for example, the forest. The parallelos is- I was explained what the parallelos is, and for the sake of everybody, I can't go incredibly into depth about it. But the parallelos isn't a single place contained within there. That whole place is the parallelos. That angel just called it the darkness. There are worlds contained within this place. Everything from non-existence to pure existence. And that's all I can say about that."
Xenquility: ""That whole place" referring specifically to the dark place or referring to all worlds within the area outside of it?"
Vincent: "Not even referring to all the worlds. I'm talking about the area outside of it. And I wouldn't even call them "worlds". From the outside, they're quite small. For a nerdy and/or annoying reference, it's bigger on the inside ((Laughs)). I'm not fully aware of how much I'm allowed to tell you about these kinds of things, so I'm going to leave that at that. These memories that I've been getting... It's like I have the memories of two seperate people at certain points in my life. And it's like... I know that I'm me. I know that I'm Vincent. I have a life. I have a family. I have parents. I have a brother... but at the same time I ALSO have parents. And a family. And TWO brothers. I have both of these at the same time, and I just... I don't get it. I don't understand. This is very disorienting. And also, these memories…"
IIFan2001: "lol"
IIFan2001: "Its like you have 2 families?"
Vincent: "It's not like I have two families. I mean, I guess it is like I have two families, but it's more like I have two lives. Almost as if there's a copy of me, but they're both me. I have two selves... I have two seperate lives. I have two families, and it makes me think that one of them isn't real."
Xenquility: "Wait, are your family actually different people in the other memories?"
Vincent: "Yes. I remember my fifth birthday party with... In the new memory, I remember a birthday party. We were in the backyard, and my parents spent a lot of money. They didn't have to buy me a cool Captain Hook Pinata, and it was awesome. It was like, as big as I was. All the neighbourhood kids came around. But then, my memory of that birthday is completely different. We lived in a higher class neighbourhood. We didn't have the pinata. We just had one of those stupid "pull the string and the candy falls out", you know what I mean? Ah, I don't know... There were more kids, the cake was bigger, but it's the same birthday."
Xenquility: " Did you have a sister in your new memory?"
Vincent: "Yes. In the new memory. She was just a baby at the time of that party."
Xenquility: " Do you remember your parents names in the new memories? Or what they look like?"
Vincent: "Yeah. I remember everything. It's like the memories have started from birth. Not that I remember the actual birth, but like it's starting from birth, and as I remember more and more, it's getting closer and closer to the current time period."
Xenquility: "Does this ring any bells?"
Xenquility: ((The photo of Hank and Diana is posted))
Vincent: "No. Who is that?"
Xenquility: "That's hank"
Vincent: "He... he does look familiar, but…"
Xenquility: "Just making sure you weren't getting Ben's memories (If you know who that is)"
Vincent: "I'm- I am aware of Ben. I am aware of him. "
Pako: "Or Patrem"
Pako: "or g4"
Vincent: "Who's g4? The movie?"
Xenquility: "Fourth giant "
Xenquility: "Luna summoning ritual"
Vincent: "Oh ((Laughs)). I was thinking of G-force."
Xenquility: "Do you know what YOU look like in the new memories?"
Vincent: "It's still me! I'm not different in these memories - it's me. These memories don't feel like dreams or visions of somebody else's life. It's me. Same name- Well, no. Not same name, I don't think. But it is the same me. Like, if I were to remember some time... If I were to think back for some reason to, like, looking in a mirror - because I do that a lot, for some reason. It's just a personal habit. It's not like a narcissist thing, it's just like, I stare at myself and think about existing. It stresses me out... it always has. But, I've done that. I did that in the old memories. Or the new memories? I don't know. In both sets of memories."
Xenquility: "OH"
Xenquility: "Same name?"
Xenquility: "I'm guessing you don't know your new memories name"
Vincent: "I... do know my name in the new memories, but I don't think that I should say it. I, uh… what's the term that I'm looking for... I think the repercussions of people knowing who that is would be too... I would use the word catastrophic. I think that would break things."
Xenquility: "What if we like"
Xenquility: "Found out without you telling us"
Vincent: "If you find out without me telling you, then that's how it was supposed to happen. But all I know at this point is that I cannot be the one to tell you. With these memories coming back, I'm also gaining a certain amount of knowledge that I feel like I shouldn't have. So there are certain things I know I can say and there are certain things I know that I absolutely cannot say. And if I can say them, I cannot say them now."
Xenquility: "hm"
Xenquility: "In your uh"
Xenquility: ""New memories""
Xenquility: "are you religious at all?"
Vincent: "I was raised religious, but I was also not really feeling it, even from like 3 or four years old - some of my oldest memories. My parents took me to get baptized and I screamed like the anti-christ the whole time ((Laughs)). So in my new memories, I would say no. I'm not religious, but I haven't gotten far enough into the memories yet to know for sure. Like I said, it's a chronological thing, if that makes sense. I don't remember stuff from my teenage years and then stuff from when I was eight. It goes in order from when I was born."
Xenquility: "Does John Mesic ring any bells?"
Xenquility: "Just in general"
Vincent: "Yes. He was a topic of discussion in the cult, but it was more one of those "hush hush" kinds of conversations. I never really pursued any information. I felt like it was just one of those rumors going around. And at the same time given the position that we're in, you don't really want to get involved in these kinds of rumors that are CLEARLY dangerous. You just don't want to do that. At least if you're a good member, I should say. So, I'm aware of the name and that's it. Whenever somebody would... like, we would act all professional or whatever, but there were downtimes, you know, where we were just sort of living together. And social circles were forming within, that sort of thing. At the end of the day, most of us were just like, sort of normal people. And whenever the topic came up, it was like "no no no no no, I'm not a part of this", because it would always be like "Hey, come over here you. Come hear about this", and I was like, "Nope. I have not, and I will not. Just stay away from me. I will not associate with you anymore." Cause when you're in something this serious, if there's even a hint that you shouldn't talk about something, you don't talk about it. Those people were being very reckless. I tried my best to keep my nose clean, which is why I ascended up the ranks."
Xenquility: "Heard anything about Matt lately?"
Xenquility: "Or Ifrit"
Xenquility: "or Operator"
Vincent: "I am not sure who any of those are."
Xenquility: "All the same guy"
Xenquility: ((An image of Matt wearing a skull mask is sent))
Xenquility: "This being the closest image"
Vincent: "All three are the same guy? Matt, Ifrit, AND the Operator? Uh, no. I'm not sure. My last cognitive experience... Here, let me see real quick. I'm pretty sure I have the specific dates for when Patrem took over me. Yeah, so four years ago, Patrem took over me. And some time between then - I don't have exact dates - that's when the tower thing happened. And then on April 2017, that was like the last speck of the self that existed within me. And then from there I was just in the dark place. And now I'm here. So I'm not aware of this person, if they're a new person involved."
Xenquility: "Quite old actually"
Vincent: "Yeah, then I'm just unfamiliar with him."
Xenquility: "Have you heard anything about a program called "JanusVR""
Vincent: "Yeah! It seemed like a cool spiritual successor to Worlds, which was cool. The guy who owned Worlds, not so cool. Look into it."
Xenquility: "Before I post this"
Xenquility: "Do you think you're in a scenario where viewing an image could cause something bad to happen"
Vincent: "Um... I don't think so? Not as far as I know. You're stressing me out. Kind of a scary question ((Laughs)). But I say go for it. Give it a shot."
Xenquility: "This dude look familiar at all?"
Xenquility: ((The image "ITWATCHES.gif" is sent))
Xenquility: "Kinda spooky so beware"
Xenquility: "ooga booga"
Vincent: ""Ooga booga"... What is this?"
Xenquility: "Some sort of entity chasing the Yuuki person"
Xenquility: "as far as I can gather"
Vincent: "Yeah, I'm not aware of that at all."
Xenquility: "Hm alright"
Xenquility: "Ever heard of someone named Max? Or a channel called Quiet Family?"
Vincent: "Uh... no. Who's Max?"
Xenquility: "SKM (Sam)'s brother"
Vincent: "Ah, okay. Yeah, no. I'm not aware."
Xenquility: "Any idea what the significance of "25" might be?"
Vincent: "Uh, no. I don't know the significance of "25"."
Xenquility: "This is pretty fucking dumb but as a filler question as I search for more would you happen to be aware of any "Enemy" plans you could tell us about LMAO"
Vincent: "((Laughs)) Uh, no. Currently just happy to be back and honestly just trying to stay away from any of the enemy plans. I can only hope they don't involve me, but that's what I thought before, so... As far as I know, the ritual or ceremony - whatever it was they were doing at the tower completely backfired and, uh, I haven't really heard anything from anyone. Like... Usually they're pretty quick to find you and basically just interrogate you, but I haven't heard anything about that."
Xenquility: "Does this look familiar at all?"
Xenquility: ((GHOSTBABEL's profile picture is sent))
Vincent: "What is this?"
Xenquility: "I'll take that as a no"
Vincent: "No, I'm sorry. But what is it?"
Xenquility: "Image of the ghostbabel person I asked about earlier"
Xenquility: "or their profile picture"
Vincent: "Yeah, I'm not sure who that is."
Xenquility: "We saw some leaked message from the baddies a while ago talking about janusVR"
Vincent: "What'd it say? Who are the "Baddies"?"
Xenquility: "Well we got the Lunarchildren still probably"
Xenquility: "and some new guys tghat work with the dude named BUP"
Xenquility: "who also work with the lc to some extent"
Xenquility: "And it was the IIIII account I was talking about earlier asking in a message if the janus vr roonm was completed yet"
Xenquility: ((The "leaked screenshot" posted by BUP is sent))
Xenquility: "Also uh"
Xenquility: "Vincent"
Xenquility: "Any idea why that message mentioned you?"
Vincent: "Were both of these messages sent by IIIII? Or was that somebody else in the beginning?"
Xenquility: "2nd one was IIIII"
Xenquility: "Not sure about the 1st"
Xenquility: "But it was most likely sent to the BUP guy as he's the one who accidentally posted the message"
Vincent: "I'm not entirely sure who or why."
Xenquility: " Have you heard anyone referred to as "The Gray Man"?"
Xenquility: ((An image of "The Gray Man" is sent))
Vincent: "It seems familiar, but I think only because I've been trying to go through and get up to date on the information that you guys have."
Xenquility: "Oh"
Xenquility: "Would the term "null storms" ring any bells?"
Vincent: "No."
Vincent: ((Vincent leaves to make some coffee))
Vincent: "Hello?
Vincent: "You guys got any more.. deep questions? ((Laughs))"

Xenquility: "OH"
Xenquility: "Got one"
Xenquility: "When you said the only way to escape the darkness it to keep moving"
Xenquility: "what does that actually mean?"
Jackuan: "Xen acts like he got a PhD :p Nice"
Vincent: "Xen does have a PhD."
Vincent: "When... When did I say that? Was this like, two nights ago or something?"

Xenquility: "Yesterday morning"
Vincent: "Oh, like super early in the morning?"
Xenquility: "yeah"
Vincent: "Oh, yeah. Yeah, I was really disoriented at the time. But, basically, just as long as I kept wandering the forest, it felt like I wasn't going to "lose", if you will, and once I just decided to quit and stop and sit, that's when everything just started to kind of consume me."
Xenquility: "Ah alright"
Xenquility: "Do you think there is a cause of the darkness? Or would you just say it's a property of that "world""
Vincent: "I would say it's just a property of that world."
Xenquility: "Same with the time?"
Vincent: "Uh, the time dilation you mean?"
Xenquility: "Yeah"
Vincent: "Yeah, I think it's just a property of that world. That's why it was such a disorienting experience coming back, because I was expecting to be, like, 10,000 years in the future or something. But I wasn't. I was stuck in there for a very, very long time."
Xenquility: "Did time only seem odd after you had stopped walking, or was it constant?"
Vincent: "It was consistent. If anything, time felt like it was going by faster once I stopped walking, cause the need to keep moving kept me thinking, I guess. Like, "Maybe this way, maybe this way. Maybe straight. Am I going in circles?", all that kind of stuff. That was, like, keeping me aware, I guess, but after however many years it felt like I was walking, my brain was just exhausted. I was just ready for some quiet. I sat down with just the intention of resting, but like I said earlier, my body didn't need to rest or eat, so once I sat down and it felt comfortable, I decided that's where I wanted to be. It's better than wandering around in terror. Once I sat down, the terror turned into just fear, and the fear turned into just nothing. And nothing is a lot more comfortable than horrific fear - the stuff that's in your worst nightmares. Like when you're about to turn the corner and you KNOW something is going to be there. It was that feeling for the whole time. So I stopped."
ARGdov: "Ok unrelated question but - what are oyur plans now that you're out of there?"
ARGdov: "Just wanna make sure you're doing okay"
Vincent: "I don't know. Uh, ARGcat, I mean, in a literal and immediate sense, I am doing okay... I don't really have any plans as of yet. I'm probably just going to be... going to react to life as it happens, but I can't help but feel some sort of responsibility to help. So, if there's anything I can do to help, I'd be willing to do what I can."
ARGdov: "Ive been gone for a bit but it sounds like youve helped us a bit already"
ARGdov: "Theres still a lot more we need to work out but its something at least"
ARGdov: "Those BUP guys are still a mystery but I doubt youd know anything about them"
Vincent: "I do not know anything about Bup... B.U.P."
ARGdov: "Lol yeah didn't think so"
ARGdov: "Theyre up to something"
ARGdov: "They have powers"
ARGdov: "Theyre bad. Thats about it."
Vincent: "Are they part of the cult?"
ARGdov: "We dont know"
ARGdov: "But probably not"
ARGdov: "They seem to be their own thimg its weird"
ARGdov: "Theyre def involved though"
Vincent: "Are they similar to what I was involved with earlier?"
ARGdov: "Maybe? We've been speculating there may be a connection"
ARGdov: "All we know for sure is that they have power, and they have some plan, and itll probably be a danger to us. Thats the gist anyways."
Vincent: "I would've expected to be contacted at least by some of the higher ranking, but I haven't heard anything from anyone, which is comforting but also horrifying."
Xenquility: "Do we even know if the cult still exists in our world"
ARGdov: "Once the shit at the spire happened the LC kinda disapeared."
Vincent: "Oh... That's either a really good or really bad thing in my opinion."
ARGdov: "There's shit going on in other worlds, in wherever you were"
ARGdov: "So we're not done yet sadly"
Vincent: "If there's stuff going on in there, I do not want to go back… But, if it's like a last resort kind of thing, and you figure out how…"
Xenquility: "For all we know the cult might've been shoved into that parallelos"
Vincent: "Well, there was talk of that guy Tyler that might be in there, you guys were saying. Cause I didn't go there on purpose, it just kind of... happened. Really slowly, I guess."
ARGdov: "There are other people in there though"
ARGdov: "And it seems like some kind of cults been set up inside that world"
ARGdov: "We dunno by who"
Vincent: "There's a lot of people in there. There are very, very many people in there."
Xenquility: "That's scary to think about"
Xenquility: "We have some theory that they may be trying to make that world "habitable""
Vincent: "Uh... What's scary to think about is that if they're trying to make that place liveable, which I'm just going to come and say I don't think is possible. That is scary. If these BUP guys or guy are trying to do something like that, that's not... That's bad. We do not want that to happen."
Xenquility: "There may be a chance that ascended souls go there"
Xenquility: "as two people who were ascended seem to be there"
Vincent: "I don't know the, like, prerequisites you have to have to go in there. As far as I know, it's possible for some kind of, like, portal to be created to go in there for whatever reason you'd want to do that. But you don't go straight into one of the worlds. You go into that "Universe", if you will. Sort of like uh…"
ARGdov: "Some people seemingly crossed over on their own though"
ARGdov: "Over a bridge"
Vincent: "Yeah. I mean, I don't know how it works. Are you talking about a literal bridge, or like a symbolic bridge?"
ARGdov: "Kind of both?"
Xenquility: "Also does this at all look familiar?"
Xenquilty: ((An image of the circular rune board is sent))
ARGdov: "Weve seen people cross a bridge and then they kinda ended up on that side
ARGdov: "So who the fuck knows"
Vincent: "That may be just like a hot spot, if you will. For me, there was no bridge. I just kind of... faded into it, I guess. But that sent me straight into my world. I would imagine if you're trying to get into that place as a whole intentionally, you would have to have some way of navigating it, and a lot of it in there is just open space, and these worlds are just kind of... floating around, if you will. They seem to be connected by some sort of infrastructure, but I can't understand it. I think it's just incomprehensible. The bridge thing - it could just be the case for Tyler, you know. Maybe everybody has their own way of entering. I have no idea how the angel did it. I don't know why she came to me. I don't know how she got me out…"
Pako: ((A screenshot of the video "Start Life" featuring the white mannequin-like entity is sent))
Vincent: "I don't like that."
Pako: "You know something of this?"
Vincent: "No, but it's familiar and I don't know why. I don't like that. I don't like that. I do not like that. I don't like it."
Players: ((Players attempt to get Pako to delete the image))
Vincent: "I don't like it."
Pako: ((Pako deletes the image))
Vincent: "I can't see it anymore. What... What were we saying?"
ARGdov: "Can I ask one question about the angel?"
ARGdov: "Were they wearing a hat?"
Vincent: "Were they wearing a hat? I don't think so, but she's also requested that I don't describe her specifically. She might have larger plans. I like to think that she just rescued me, but I feel like she's going to come back into play at some point, which makes me nervous. But at the same time, she is the most trusted person I've encountered."
Xenquility: "Ay Vincent you still alive"
otherLiam: "Did anyone ask if there's a way we can contact the angel yet?"
Vincent: "There is not. Not that I'm aware of. She kind of just came in, got me out, put me down, and left. There was a little bit of talking, but…"
Xenquility: "the real question"
Xenquility: "WAS SHE HOT?"
Xenquility: "im sorry I had to"
Vincent: "((Laughs)) I would say that she's beautiful, yes."
otherLiam: "Guess we need to find a different way to get our people outta there"
Vincent: "I... have to wonder if she'll be back. I don't know why she would've chosen me, of all people, because it seems like there are people that to you guys are more important. I'm not sure of what my role is in this anymore. At least when I was in the cult I had a goal."
otherLiam: "Well you're also important. We'd just also like it if nobody was in the nightmare zone."
Vincent: "But why am I important? It feels like I was just a vessel. I got mixed up in something"
Xenquility: "Maybe that's why?"
Vincent: "I'm not sure to be honest."
otherLiam: "I think whatever's happening with your memories right now is an important piece of the puzzle."
Vincent: "I guess that I should explain to you since you just got here that these new memories are coming to me in chronological order. I have memories up to about 14 years old now. There isn't really much going on... just in school. I also don't think you were here when I explained that it's really confusing. It's not memories of another person, it's memories of me, but different, with a different family, and I lived in a different state. It's all different, but I'm still me. I still developed the same. My personality is still the same. The example I gave earlier was like my eighth or ninth birthday party... I remember two parties for that day and I remember being at both. And I remember feeling, like, exactly the same at both. You know what I mean? It's like I'm slowly becoming two people, if that makes sense. And as for how I'm feeling, I'm just confused, honestly. But, uh, other than "confused", everything's fine. It's just... confusing."
Vincent: "A couple of other key details that I think you missed is that while I was in that world, I was just kind of wandering around aimlessly in this, like, massive forest, which was horrifying the whole time, non-stop, until my mind just got tired of it after walking actually for like 1000 years. Time works differently in that place. I came across a tree that looked... comfortable ((Laughs)). So I just sat on the tree, and in that moment, I felt the closest thing to peace that I had felt since I had been there. So I just sat there. I didn't move."
Vincent: "In this place, for me, there was no hunger. There was no sleep. There was no exhaustion. There was nothing. There was just this world that I was in. And fear. And green. ((Laughs))
Vincent: "I was sitting in that place for so long that the trees kept growing and this tree grew around me, and I was just sunken in the tree with just a little bit of my chest and the forward half of my head sticking out, and I just... I still didn't move. I was ready, and right before the angel came, I saw something poke through the sky. Not, like, coming through the clouds or anything, but coming through the sky itself broke. Not broke, but, like, pierced, and it was this large, black tentacle sort of thing, and with it came this massive storm, the tentacle acting like the tornado in the center of it all."
Vincent: "The clouds that it was making were blackened. There was lightning just around the hole - everything a storm would have - and it started getting closer. And, again, I had completely given up at this point. At this point in time, my perception of time had lost me. I could have been there for 5 minutes, or I could have been there for fifty thousand, for all I know. I just had no idea. As it got closer, I could tell that it was coming for me, specifically, and that was when the angel showed up. In short terms, she was basically like, "What are you doing? We need to get out of here." So, she kind of like moved the tree in this kind of way, picked me up, brushed me off, and told me what was going to happen. And she could fly in this world, so she picked me up and we went straight up and then we went through the sky. And I saw the creature that was poking into my world. It was massive... and just terrible. I don't like thinking about it."
Vincent: "Once we were outside of the world that I was in, I immediately wished that I didn't stop moving. I wish I just kept walking around. It was so much more horrifying to see what was out there. I assume she has some sort of higher knowledge and she told me that there were certain things that I'm not allowed to talk about, and describing the place that contained the place that I was in is not something I should talk about. For my safety, and for your safety. All of you. And I just kept looking. She told me to stop looking, but I kept looking… Eventually, the fear hit the point where I basically just reverted to a child. I just held on, closed my eyes, and dug my face into her shoulder until we were... out. Out. And we were back at my house. It was the most disorienting thing."
Vincent: "After about a day or two of just processing, that's when I learned to play the song on the piano that I posted, "Glad to be back", because I realised it was real! I was actually out of there. It was over. I had a lot of time to myself... Too much time to myself. I feel like if we ever discover immortality, I wouldn't pick it. There is such a thing as living too long. But now that I'm back, it's different. I can look back on it all, and it doesn't feel like as long as it felt like at the time. So, yeah. I'm still just feeling confused, and these memories suddenly presenting themselves to me are making it a lot more confusing."

otherLiam: "Did you ever see any other people while you were in there?"
Vincent: "Yes, but there was never any contact, and I couldn't tell you if they were real. By the time I started seeing people, it had been so long completely alone that I could probably just say that it was my brain hoping that if I would like, turn my head, I'd see someone standing there. If I did see anyone, we would just look at each other and keep walking, so I don't know if there were any other "real" people in that place or if it was just me in this particular place. One thing that I am allowed to say is that earlier the tentacle creature that was trying to enter or break through my world, what have you, I truly believe it was coming for me, specifically. It broke through the sky directly in my line of site. It was coming straight for me, and as we left, just kind of in horror, I screamed. I was like, "What is that thing?", and she told me that it was a race of creatures that live in there called the "Absque Fascie", and I didn't ask any further questions. I also noted earlier that the world that I was in was not the only one in there. There were very, very many in there. Because we were still just going in an upward direction and I just started to be able to see, like, the larger expanse of space that was contained within this place. There were a lot of these places, of these separate worlds, that I would assume belong to someone, and if the people that I saw in the forest were real, maybe several people live in these places. And somebody was saying earlier that BUP or whatever it's called, they're trying to, like, "collinate" in there, and if they have the power to do that, that's a very, very bad thing. We do not want that to happen under any circumstances."
Xenquility: "Sorry what don't we want to happen? (Zoned out for a sec my bad)"
Vincent: "Somebody earlier said that the BUP people or whatever they're called were trying to colonize or inhabit a space within this place. That's bad news. You don't want that to happen. Absolutely not. And you say that they have powers and stuff, but something you need to understand is that not even Patrem could handle that place. You know, he was a part of me for so long, but even he couldn't handle that. He can't. There's just no way. He isn't HALF as strong as the Absque Fascie. If these guys are able to do literally ANYTHING to the Absque Fascie, that is a HUGE, like, multi dimensional reality breaking scenario. We do not want that to happen."
otherLiam: "Is there anything we can do to help you?"
Vincent: "As for anything you can do to help me, I don't really need help with anything right now. I'm kind of in a more or less comfortable place. I'm just confused with the memories coming into my brain and I don't really know how to handle that at the moment. I'd also like to make clear again that there IS more that I know that I cannot tell anybody. Not because I'm being threatened, but it's for everybodies safety."
ARGdov: "You and everyone else"
ARGdov: "nobody can tell us anything"
ARGdov: "well, actually most just refuse to, so at least you have an actual reason lol"
Vincent: "No, this is different. This is different."
ARGdov: "We get it"
Vincent: "And don't say I didn't tell you anything. I told you much stuff. ((Laughs))"
ARGdov: "Oh you did"
ARGdov: "dont worry, we're thankful dont worry"
Vincent: "But this is, like, "world breaking can't tell you" stuff. Not yet. It's stuff I believe you'll find out on your own, but I personally cannot tell you. At least not now. It's not the right time."
Liam: Can you tell us any more about that "Experimental procedure" the LC were using? Like, do you know of anyone it was definitely used on?"
Vincent: "Okay, so there was a procedure that we were trying to develop - and I say "We" because I was higher tier than most people at the time. This was before Patrem. This was just me as a part of this cult. I believed everything that they were telling me. This procedure was a part of advanced initiations. So, if you think about it in... I can't think of the word to use, but if you think about in like a ranking system - lowest rank to highest rank - lowest rank is fresh, brand new initiate - "I want to be a part of this", so, okay, let's see what you've got. Then you go through the first basic "tests" or "trials" or whatever they called it, but after that it gets more serious. You have to do more serious things, and a part of that is leaving your life behind. The "experimental procedure", when it worked, it would "change you". It would change you into a different person on a literal level. If it didn't work, you'd... Not even if it didn't work, but if the person administering it - because this was like brain surgery that we were doing - if it didn't work, it's not that you would die - it's that you would lose your mind and, subsequently, we would put them out of your misery. If we succeeded, they would come back a different person, and from that point on, I would say they were level 1 initiates into the cult. The position under that when you go through the initial steps with the "go do this" and "go do that", I would consider that a level 0 initiate."
otherLiam: "So it's a surgical thing? Not like, a magical ritual or something."
Vincent: "I wasn't a personal "administrator" of this kind of thing. I think it's less magic, more surgical. Some kind of magic is used, but it's also surgical. You can't just zap them through their skull and it works, you know, you have to actually pinpoint the exact spot on the brain."
Xenquility: "Sorry, was the "experimental treatment" used on each new initiate?"
Vincent: "Xenquility, yes. It was used on each new initiate. They were presented with the risks. They were not told what was going to happen, and that was basically the final proving point, like, "Are you willing to die to keep this going? Because you might die.""
Xenquility: "When was this actually developed?"
Vincent: "They've been using it for a long time. I don't know when this developed. When - if it succeeds, your mind changes in a very serious way, and assuming that you even got to this point, you're basically saying "Yes, I'd do anything for the Luna. I would die for Luna. I want to be a part of this. I'm aware of the risks and if I die right now, at least I'm dying with purpose." That's how the people would see it. That's how I saw it, because they can be really convincing, you know, and some people went through with it, it worked, but with a fair amount of people, it didn't work. Every single member has had this done to them, from the highest down to the first initiates. Before this treatment, that is your only chance to leave - to turn around, walk away, and pretend it never happened. Which, considering the kind of shit that these people do, is a graceful thing."
Xenquility: "Do they actually let people leave?"
Vincent: "Yeah, because usually people are like "Alright, this feels kind of bullshit", you know. If you were to be walking down the street and you heard some guy scream like, "Yo, there's this cult. They want to do brain surgery on me." ((Laughs)) And if people DO get too close to convincing someone, that is when the higher ups kind of... You know what I mean? Because it's a very, very organized group of people, and they keep track of everyone. So, they give you the chance to leave, and if you just go back to your regular old life, you're fine. But if you start trying to, like, expose them or something, then, um... you're done. You don't do that, and they made that clear. But the first couple of trials are super simple, but when you get to that one, it's permanent. You're not going back after that. You are a devotee to Luna until you die. It's irreversible. Well, theoretically irreversible. I've never administered the treatment. I've never seen it up close. It could be digital, it could be magical, I don't know. All I know is that once it's there, it's there, and if it doesn't work, it isn't like a "Well, we failed, let's just throw 'em into the dumpster!" It's like a very sad thing, you know, like we'll have a funeral for them and everything, because we know that even by accepting to try the treatment they were one of us. We respected each other. We were family, in a sense."
otherLiam: "You said you were a higher-up in the LC at this time, right?"
Vincent: "Yes, but not to the top."
otherLiam: "Then you also went through that?"
Vincent: "Oh yeah. That IS the first step. Everything before that is just bells and whistles."
Xenquility: "Damn guess it doesn't convince people that possession is good"
Vincent: "Well, no. See, that's the thing - once you're way way higher up into the ranks…"
Erika_XP💚: "@Vincentadams did you know Luna is actually my patron deity? Also hi xp"
otherLiam: "dude what"
Vincent: ((Vincent asks if Erika is being serious))
otherLiam: "she sure is"
Xenquility: "(Different Luna apparently, not jid luna)"
ARGdov: "shes"
ARGdov: "a lot"
Vincent: ((Vincent asks if Erika is a part of any cult))
Erika_XP💚: "lol no cults are dumb"
Xenquility: "lmao"
IIFan2001: "lol"
Erika_XP💚: "well I guess I should not say a cult in the classical sense is dumb but in its modern application normies have made it dumbo =p"
otherLiam: "please stop RPing"
Erika_XP💚: "Hey Im being SERIOUS actually sorry tho =/"
Vincent: "But yeah, as far as convincing people that possession's good, we were aware of the concept, but we didn't tell people that it would be a comfortable experience. The higher ups would make it clear that if you are chosen to be possessed by an entity that represents our cause that you should accept it, and that it is not going to be comfortable, and yeah. The treatment from before isn't supposed to make everything seem "normal" or "good" or any kind of thing like that, it's more of a test to see how serious you are about joining this cult, and what it actually does is that it changes you. Like, it completely changes you, in some kind of way, I guess. I'm not sure how to explain it, entirely, but it makes your dedication to the cult as a whole FAR stronger than before, and as you can probably tell, it IS possible to reverse these affects, given that I am here now and not a part of the cult, and, like, afraid of the cult, because as far as I know, post treatment nobody has ever... I don't even want to say "escaped", because nobody's ever wanted to escape. It's just that nobody has ever left. I think that whatever happened to me at the event at that tower... it must have reversed whatever happened to me during the initiation, and that's what allowed me to escape. Otherwise, I would've stayed and done everything I could to help."
otherLiam: "Have hte LC been in contact with you at all since you got back? Or are they even aware you're still alive?"
Vincent: "I have not encountered anybody at all. I am not even aware if they're still alive. I haven't seen anything from anyone about anything, but once I left the tower, or the spire, sorry, I called up some friends and family and just made my way back to my home. But, I started to get paranoid about my friends and families being in on it, so I sort of just picked up and left out of nowhere in a hurry to a different location in hopes that they didn't follow me, and I haven't seen anything happen yet. I haven't noticed anybody following me, because again I was a higher up, so I know how they do things. But, as far as I know I've escaped them, or they're just not around anymore. Preferably they're not around anymore. Anyone have any more questions?"
Erika_XP💚: "WAIT"
Erika_XP💚: "forget I asked that I was having a brain fart XD"
Erika_XP💚: "I know something =p"
Erika_XP💚: "You are the vincent man who forgot a bunch of stuff I think"
Erika_XP💚: "and you are a good person and I hope you have a good day sir XD"

otherLiam: "I mean most of what I wanted to know was about the angel and if we could get her to help our friends. But that may be something we need to investigate on our own.
Vincent: "I like to imagine that she will come back. And this isn't to imply anything, this is just a theory, she might be around, and we just don't know it."
Xenquility: "Woah"
Xenquility: "deeplore"
Xenquility: "cough cough"
Erika_XP💚: "Did you know angels are actually big scary geometrical shapes in reality?"
Erika_XP💚: "what is this angel business why would you want to be involved with a bloody angel lol"
Erika_XP💚: "Well Im not sure who "she" is but I know I would be insulted to get called something so grody"
Erika_XP💚: "Im just having a go mate sorry sorry XD"

otherLiam: "Erika, have some chill"
Vincent: "If she is powerful enough to enter that space AND enter my world, unage the tree that I was sitting in, pull me out of the world, and take me outside of the universe that contains those worlds, I'd imagine that she is some kind of all powerful being. Not all powerful, but far more powerful than anything I've encountered."
IIFan2001: "Jackuan is kinda pretending like he is in the voice chat XD"
Erika_XP💚: "in reality the imagery we see when we think of angels is better attributed to faeries if anything :p"
Jackuan: "@IIFan2001 just wanna be included but well."
Erika_XP💚: "rarely are they nice as far as I am aware but I dont think its impossible either =p"
Xenquility: "valkyries"
Xenquility: "or something"
Vincent: "Jackuan you are included."
Xenquility: "arguably'"
otherLiam: "dude just call her an angel"
Erika_XP💚: "Oh those are cool actually XD"
otherLiam: "dont let the pagan talk shit"
Jackuan: "@Vincentadams thanks bro but im not in the call."
Erika_XP💚: "oi pagan is a dumb word I dont call myself that >>"
otherLiam: "Jackuan is having internet trouble i think"
Vincent: "xen is recording the whole thing so you can watch it when he cuts it down"
Jackuan: "Yeah @otherLiam"
Vincent: "there are long periods of silence that can be removed to shorten it"
Vincent: "either way this is going to be 3+ hours long"
Erika_XP💚: "I am honestly not sure what you should call her but Ill say valkyries are cool. But also tragic at times in their tales"
Xenquility: ((The message "FEET PICS" is written in runes))
Erika_XP💚: "always very beautiful tho"
Jackuan: "@Xenquility feet pics(? Wtf"
Erika_XP💚: "LOL"
otherLiam: "This is a weird question, but while you were in the green place, did you ever hear any music?"
Vincent: "Just wait for the video if your wifi cannot handle it."
Vincent: "I am sorry that you cannot enter the call."
Erika_XP💚: "@Xenquility you really took off reading about runes after our talk before I take it XD"
Vincent: "Um, no. I did not hear music. It was very silent and very still. There was no wind. There were no animals. It was just grass, dirt, and trees. Very, very large trees that would take about 4 people to lock arms around. They were very, very tall. There were only certain places where I could see the sky, and I would much rather look at the trees than the sky"
otherLiam: "Why, what was in the sky?"
Vincent: "It was just uncomfortable to look at. It was a more or less normal sky, but with the way that everything looked in there, it was just uncomfortable."
Vincent: ""normal""
Erika_XP💚: "Ill be right back ^w^"
PaKo: "ᚲᛊᛖᚾᛊᚢᚲᚲᛊ xD"
Xenquility: "those are like"
Xenquility: "younger futhark I think"
Xenquility: "I can really only read elder futhark"
Xenquility: "but that's probably a goofy online translator you're using"
PaKo: "https://lexiquetos.org/nombres-runas"
Erika_XP💚: "Aaaa XD"
Vincent: "Any more questions?"
otherLiam: "I guess I have one more. What do you think will happen when your "other memories" finally catch up to now?"
Erika_XP💚: "Hello vincent =p"
Vincent: "I don't know. That's something that I'm worried about. I, uh... I have no idea. I think whatever happens when the memories catch up to now, I'll just sort of have to react to that. And, like I said to you the other day, I've already become exposed to knowledge that I feel like I shouldn't have, and that I'm definitely not going to share with people. And if I am, it's going to be when the time is right."
Erika_XP💚: "I can sortof read runes a lil bit"
Erika_XP💚: "But thats crazy to me it was just a couple weeks ago I think I talked with you about that and you are already typing and reading stuff I guess"
Erika_XP💚: "good job @Xenquility ^w^"

Xenquility: "<3"
otherLiam: "Alright then. I guess we mostly need to wait to either learn that stuff on our own or for when the time is right, then. And also wait for this angel to show up."
Vincent: "Yeah, I'm not entirely sure of what the angel's agenda is, and I sure as hell am confused as to why she would pick me out of all the people in there. Me, specifically... As far as I know, she isn't on a massive rescue mission, picking out people one by one. Yeah... I'm just not sure what she's trying to do. But if I ever come into contact with her again, I will ask her questions on everyone here's behalf, and I'll sort of do my own investigation and I'll ask her what she's comfortable with me sharing. IF she shows up again. I haven't seen her since, but if she singled me out, I'd imagine I'm going to be seeing her again at some point. Or maybe not. I don't know."
Erika_XP💚: "spooko >.>"
Erika_XP💚: "<.<"
Erika_XP💚: "^.^"

otherLiam: "I guess that's all the questions I have too then."
Vincent: "Okay. If you guys think of more questions, I don't mind doing something like this again. It's up to you guys at the end of the day."
Xenquility: "Thanks for the help my dude"
Xenquility: "Especially with the touchy stuff"
otherLiam: "Thanks for being here dude"
otherLiam: "take care"
Vincent: "Thank you for listening."
Erika_XP💚: "Was just gonna say, nighty nighto Mr. Adams ~<3"
Vincent: "Oh ((Laughs)). Thank you, and nighty nighto to you too Erika_XP Square. I cannot see most emojis on my computer."
Erika_XP💚: "its a green heart :heart:"
Vincent: ":green_heart:"
Erika_XP💚: "yes ^^"
Vincent: "Alrighty! If nobody else has any questions, I'm going to go ahead and head out. I hope you all do well, and I'll talk to you guys later. Good night."
Erika_XP💚: "bye bye Xp"

Summary

  • This conversation was a live QnA that took place within the Internet Detectives Discord Server. Throughout the conversation, Vincent would speak over voice chat using a digitally modified voice. Though he answers many questions, there are certain subjects Vincent refuses to speak about, fearing they will result in a reality-breaking catastrophe.
  • Vincent explains that when he was freed from Patrem's control in The Spire, there was chaos around him. He explained that he witnessed Patrem being "sucked into somewhere".
  • Vincent gives another overview of his journey through the Parallelos. He explains that it appeared to him as a giant, dense forest. Though he was only there for a few years, it felt like ages to him. He reiterates that he felt as though he had to keep moving to evade the darkness, but eventually became tired and gave up, resulting in the tree growing around him and later being saved from the dark storm by the Angel.
  • Vincent says that the Angel "flew" him out of the Parallelos, where things were even more terrifying and he could see what appeared to be other realms.
  • Vincent believes that the tendrils he saw within the storm of darkness were actually an Absque Fascie, which he claims are far more powerful than Patrem.
  • Vincent describes some of the Lunar Children's processes. He claims that new recruits are asked to carry out small tasks, but at some point, they are required to partake in an experimental brain operation that changes them into a new, obedient identity fit for the cult's control. Vincent admits that he accepted this operation and rose fairly high within the cult's ranks, though he claims the Elder Children knew more than he did.

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