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<div class="storysofar"><h2>The story so far...</h2>
 
<div class="storysofar"><h2>The story so far...</h2>
 
<poem>By 2015, players had accepted that the story of Ben Drowned might never have a conclusion. However, one day they encountered a user named "thelaw" who introduced them to a new website - YSHDT.com. This website contained cryptic files relating to a young man named Doug, who was expressing his regrets for having joined a cult. Players eventually made contact with a past version of Doug from the year 2009 who had only just joined the cult a few days ago. Seeing this as their chance to rescue Doug from his eventual fate, players began attempting to convince Doug to leave the cult. One player named Jacob took a different approach and looked into joining the cult himself. Doug directed Jacob to his friend Mason - another cultist who handles the processing of new recruits.  
 
<poem>By 2015, players had accepted that the story of Ben Drowned might never have a conclusion. However, one day they encountered a user named "thelaw" who introduced them to a new website - YSHDT.com. This website contained cryptic files relating to a young man named Doug, who was expressing his regrets for having joined a cult. Players eventually made contact with a past version of Doug from the year 2009 who had only just joined the cult a few days ago. Seeing this as their chance to rescue Doug from his eventual fate, players began attempting to convince Doug to leave the cult. One player named Jacob took a different approach and looked into joining the cult himself. Doug directed Jacob to his friend Mason - another cultist who handles the processing of new recruits.  
  
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Meanwhile, players were introduced to Patrem - an imposing entity that seemed to be the leader of Doug's cult. Through various chats on Within Hubris, players learned that Patrem was currently trapped within the body of a cultist named Vincent. While it's unknown how exactly this happened, Patrem implied that it was the result of some sort of accident that occurred during an important ritual. Patrem seemed to be hunting down the fleeting spirit of Ben, who actually managed to contact the players via Skype under the name "Drown". Players were also introduced to Helper - a friendly spirit who had special delivery-based abilities. With Helper's assistance, players were able to steal Doug's mail and glean more details about his day-to-day activities.
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Meanwhile, players were introduced to Patrem - an imposing entity that seemed to be the leader of Doug's cult. Through various chats on Within Hubris, players learned that Patrem was currently trapped within the body of a cultist. While it's unknown how exactly this happened, Patrem implied that it was the result of some sort of accident that occurred during an important ritual. He also made many cryptic references to a cultist named Vincent, though this individual's significance remained unkown. Patrem seemed to be hunting down the fleeting spirit of Ben, who actually managed to contact the players via Skype under the name "Drown". Players were also introduced to Helper - a friendly spirit who had special delivery-based abilities. With Helper's assistance, players were able to steal Doug's mail and glean more details about his day-to-day activities.
  
 
The more players learned about the cult, the more suspicious it became. Doug revealed that the cult's headquarters was an old fishery in rural Florida. The cult was also incredibly secretive and demanded a great deal of loyalty. Regardless, Doug's faith in it was unmoving. Unfortunately, this seemingly led to his downfall. One day out of the blue, Doug made one distressing blog post - "Help".</poem></div>
 
The more players learned about the cult, the more suspicious it became. Doug revealed that the cult's headquarters was an old fishery in rural Florida. The cult was also incredibly secretive and demanded a great deal of loyalty. Regardless, Doug's faith in it was unmoving. Unfortunately, this seemingly led to his downfall. One day out of the blue, Doug made one distressing blog post - "Help".</poem></div>
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<p>On <span class="storydate">March 3rd, 2015</span>, Doug posted the following on his blog, Letschasethemouse:</p>
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[[#Story|Start of Chapter]]
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<span class="altTooltip2">[[#Checkpoint #1|Checkpoint #1]]<span class="tooltiptext2">After finding a mysterious poem and learning more about Vincent, the players are contacted by a new ally on Letschasethemouse.</span></span>
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<span class="altTooltip2">[[#Checkpoint #2|Checkpoint #2]]<span class="tooltiptext2">Though he failed to rescue Doug, Mason managed to avoid being captured. Meanwhile, Helper's accounts begin acting strangely.</span></span>
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<span class="altTooltip2">[[#Checkpoint #3|Checkpoint #3]]<span class="tooltiptext2">After re-establishing contact with Helper, the players begin speaking with Patrem once again.</span></span>
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<p style="text-align:center;">Help</p></poem>
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<p>Doug was now in danger. Fearing for his safety, the players began searching for clues. They quickly discovered that the front page of YSHDT.com had updated and now featured a new video - <b>Name.swf</b>".</p>
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{{storyCharSum|name=Doug<br /><br />|image=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/a/a7/Faviold.png
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|desc=<b>Aliases:</b> DandP
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<b>Status:</b> Alive
  
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A high schooler who was recently invited to join a cult by his friend Mason. He runs a blog titled Letschasethemouse and is interested in journalism.  
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<p style="width: 60%;"><youtube>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACkrrLBILgQ</youtube></p>
 
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Despite the players' best efforts, he has remained loyal to the cult and it seems he is now in danger.
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<div class="mw-collapsible-content"><poem>This video begins completely black. The four photos seen on the page "<nowiki>http://yshdt.com/vincent</nowiki>" appear one by one. Deku Link's photo is highlighted, but a "<b>No</b>" symbol appears over it when it is selected. The cursor then highlights Zora Link's photo and selects it. The video then cuts to gameplay footage of Majora's Mask featuring the "file select" screen. The first save file is named "Douglas". The cursor then chooses the second save file, which has not been created yet.</poem>
 
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This video features the four images found on "<nowiki>https://yshdt.com/vincent</nowiki>".
 
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The photo of Deku Link is highlighted as a "<b>NO</b>" symbol appears.
 
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The photo of Zora Link is highlighted and selected successfully.
 
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The File Select screen from Majora's Mask appears where Doug's save file can be seen.
 
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A new save file is created, though it has not yet been named.
 
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<p>This video implies that Doug is currently unavailable as the players' Link. This was compounded by some text that was found on the same webpage - "<span class="canquote">You must act, for you cannot ‘save’ him</span>". Meanwhile, the player Jacob discovered a new page on YSHDT.com - "<span class="urls"><nowiki>http://yshdt.com/</nowiki><b>notes</b></span>". This page contained the image <b>notes.png</b>, which contained some fairly cryptic text:</p>
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{{storyCharSum|name=Mason<br /><br />|image=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/2/25/Blacksquar.png
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|desc=<b>Status:</b> Alive
  
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<img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/5/51/Notes.png" alt="" style="margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;width:80%;display:block;" />
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A high schooler and a recruiter for a mysterious cult that he's recently invited his friend Doug to join.
  
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<div class="storyscript"><poem>Findings
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He's currently processing the player Jacob's initiation into the cult.
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{{storyCharSum|name=Patrem<br /><br />|image=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/1/1f/WHpatrem.png
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|desc=<b>Status:</b> Ascended
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The leader of Doug's cult. He seems to have a mysterious connection to someone named Vincent.
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Patrem has been leaving cryptic warnings for the players while seemingly trapped within the body of another cultist.
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If another timeline is created, outcomes are inevitable, and cannot be changed.
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{{storyCharSum|name=Vincent<br /><br />|image=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/2/25/Blacksquar.png
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If multiple lines are merged, chaos ensues.
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|desc=<b>Status:</b> Alive
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She has told me of this happening. And it is her will.
 
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They seek to stop her. To cause this merged chaos.
 
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I was a fool to have my doubts.
 
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And that is why she chose me.
 
  
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There is one among you who is a traitor.
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Someone who seems to have some connection with Patrem. Not much is known about him other than that he's often said to be sleeping.
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There are two among you who must die.
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There are three that are thieving.
 
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And all are waiting.
 
  
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One of these will be your salvation.
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{{storyCharSum|name=Helper<br /><br />|image=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png
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A soul for a soul. An eye for an eye.
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|desc=<b>Status:</b> Active
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Light for dark.
 
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Circles for squares.
 
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Men for women.
 
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Wolves for cats.
 
  
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Time is like a network.
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A strange entity that was summoned by the players by submitting the "Postman's Hat". Fittingly, he seems to have the ability to deliver mail.
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And networks can be hacked.</poem></div>
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<p>This page features a excerpt from someone who was spoken to by <b>Luna</b> - possibly Doug himself. He discusses the creation of multiple different timelines and how the merging of them could lead to chaos - something that Luna herself supposedly wills. However, the players intend on opposing Luna and standing against her.</p>
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{{storyCharSum|name=Drown<br /><br />|image=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/d/d4/Lmavi.jpg
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|desc=<b>Status:</b> Ascended
  
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<p>This is followed by a poem that's directed at the players. This poem warns that one of the players is a traitor, two players must die, three players are thieves, and all of them are waiting. However, one of the following players will be their salvation:</p>
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A mysterious frightened child-like entity who seems to be fleeing Patrem. He briefly appeared to warn the players. He seems to hold some connection to Ben.
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A soul for a soul - (Unknown)
 
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An eye for an eye - (Unknown)
 
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Light - <b>TheSeekerOfLight</b>
 
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Dark - <b>Mugen Kagemaru</b>
 
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Circles for squares - <b>CircleHunter</b>
 
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Men for women - (Unknown)
 
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Wolves for cats - <b>Wolfcat</b>
 
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<p>Meanwhile, players discovered that the page "/help" had updated. Instead of just containing one instance of the word "<b>No</b>", it now featured the word copy-and-pasted across the page countless times. Scrolling down far enough would reveal an entire face made up of the word "No".</p>
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{{storyCharSum|name=TheLaw<br /><br />|image=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/3/3b/WHlaw.png
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|desc=<b>Status:</b> Alive
  
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<img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/3/30/No_%281%29.png" alt="" style="margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;display:block;width:70%;" />
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A new user who discovered YSHDT.com, kicking off the ARG.
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<p>Using steganography, players discovered a hidden text file within this image titled "<b>Masks.txt</b>".</p>
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{{storyCharSum|name=The Man<br /><br />|image=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/2/25/Blacksquar.png
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|desc=<b>Status:</b> Alive
  
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<div class="storyscript"><poem>Your mask is everything.
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The current GM of the ARG. He occasionally joins the Internet Detectives Skype group to give the players announcements.
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You wear it when you talk to others.
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{{storyCharSum|name=BEN<br /><br />|image=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/c/c2/Benface.png
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You wear it during rough times.
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|desc=<b>Status:</b> Ascended
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And during good times.
 
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You wear it to show what you'd like to be outwardly.
 
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A mask protects your identity. It protects your soul.
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A malicious entity that manipulates and dwells within technology to torment his victims. He's stolen the identity of a dead child named Ben.
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It protects you from others, and yourself.
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After gaining the freedom to spread across the internet, he has seemingly returned to challenge the players via YSHDT.com.
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Your mask is everything.
 
  
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{{storyCharSum|name=Tyler<br /><br />|image=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/3/3f/Tyleravatarsmall.png
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|desc=<b>Status:</b> Alive
  
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Then...
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A player who helped create the Internet Detectives player group and their theme song.
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}}
  
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What are you, without your mask?</poem></div>
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{{storyCharSum|name=John<br /><br />|image=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/a/a6/John_smally.png
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|desc=<b>Status:</b> Alive
  
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<p>It seems as though the concept of masks in relation to the cult are being tied with one's own identity - similar to what <b>Kayd</b> mentioned during Ben Drowned. However, this seems to imply that masks also act as shields protecting an individual's true identity. It then raises the question of what happens to someone when they lose this protection.</p>
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A player who was directly called out on YSHDT.com.
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<p>Meanwhile, the player Jacob discovered a new page on YSHDT.com - "<span class="urls"><nowiki>http://yshdt.com/</nowiki><b>yes</b></span>", which was simply titled "<b>r</b>" and saw the surprising return of the red dot. Since its enigmatic appearance on Doug's newspaper article, the red dot had become a bit of a memetic symbol amongst the players. Some even went so far as to give it a name - <b>Fred</b>.</p>
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{{storyCharSum|name=Jacob<br /><br />|image=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/8/8b/Jacobicon.png
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|desc=<b>Status:</b> Alive
  
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<img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/d/d0/Dot.jpg" alt="" style="margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;display:block;width:30%;" />
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A player who helped create the Internet Detectives theme song. He's currently undergoing an initiation overseen by Mason to join the cult.
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<p>Meanwhile, back on Within Hubris, Helper sent several players private messages titled "<span class="canquote">Hello! You have mail!</span>". These all contained the following image:</p>
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{{storyCharSum|name=Alex<br /><br />|image=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/e/e1/Jadsmall2.png
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|desc=<b>Aliases:</b> Jadusable, TheLinkMissing
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<b>Status:</b> Unknown
  
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<img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/c/c0/Psych_notes.jpg" alt="" style="margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;display:block;width:50%;" />
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A college student who was haunted by BEN. After uploading his experiences to his YouTube channel Jadusable, he disappeared. He was implied to have held some connection to the Moon Children.
  
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<p>These seemed to be more of Doug's notes - this time for his Psychology class. Interestingly, the top-right corner featured a cipher that translated to the following: "<span class="canquote">You are in danger.</span>" While this initially seemed to be a warning directed at the players, it's also possible that this was Doug's subconscious warning him about his own eventual fate.</p>
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He briefly returned under the account TheLinkMissing to assist the players. He was presumably hunted down by BEN after teaching the players about The Ocarina.
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<p>On <span class="storydate">March 4th, 2015</span>, the player Eve submitted the video "<b>Not yet gone</b>", which featured Deku Link being revived from death. This was submitted because the players feared that Doug may have already been killed. However, this theory was seemingly debunked by Patrem:</p>
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{{storyCharSum|name=Old Man<br /><br />|image=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/2/25/Blacksquar.png
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|desc=<b>Status:</b> Alive
  
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A mysterious old man. He's blind in his right eye and possesses a variety of strange inkblot paintings. He gave Alex a haunted copy of The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask, seemingly aware of BEN's presence within it.
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/Patrem\
 
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<p>"Attempting to breathe life into the living? You amuse me children."</p>
 
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<p>Unsure of what exactly they should do next, the players turned to Patrem for answers. On <span class="storydate">March 6th, 2015</span>, he answered as follows:</p>
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After giving away the cartridge, the Old Man vanished. However, it is implied that he was stalking Alex and watching his tragic story unfold...
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{{storyCharSum|name=Tyler<br /><br />|image=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/2/25/Blacksquar.png
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<div class="WHpost">
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A friend of Alex's who briefly accompanied him to try and find the Old Man. He seemed rather concerned about Alex's well-being.
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|user = <span style="#82005d !important">/Patrem\</span>
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|group = Canon Characters
 
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|count = 609
 
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|joined = February 19, 2015
 
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|postnum =  N/A
 
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|posted = Mar 6th 2015, 01:30 AM</span>
 
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|post = <poem>At this moment my child, all we may do is wait. However I have been watching you all, and I see you enjoy playing games. So to amuse myself while I wait, I would like to play a game with the “detectives”. Should you all succeed I will reward you all for your display of wisdom. Tell the children precisely what I have told you now; What is the song that makes mother cry? Speak it then move to the fourth. Wqafi lps bpv npy dfza wyrraamam; You all have 1 hour, and remember, I am watching</poem>
 
 
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<p>The players were given a cipher and a riddle - "<span class="canquote">What is the song that makes mother cry?</span>" Given that the cult's "Mother" is Luna, tears that fall from the heavens could be symbolic for rain, meaning the song in question would be the "<b>Song of Storms</b>". Using "Song of Storms" as a key, the players were able to solve the cipher and post it's solution on Within Hubris - "<span class="canquote">Speak now for you have succeeded</span>", leading to the following interaction:</p>
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{{storyCharSum|name=Ben<br /><br />|image=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/2/25/Blacksquar.png
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|desc=<b>Status:</b> Ascended (2002)
  
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A young boy who ascended on April 23rd, 2002. He held some connection to the Moon Children and was supposedly Matt's brother.
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At some point, a malicious entity stole his name and began calling itself BEN.  
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|group = Players
 
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|count = 593
 
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|joined = January 23, 2015
 
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|postnum = 279
 
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|posted = Mar 6 2015, 02:40 AM</span>
 
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|post = <poem>Song of Storms
 
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Speak now for you have succeeded</poem>
 
 
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|desc=<b>Aliases:</b> Ifrit, Rodney R., Matt Hubris
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|group = Canon Characters
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A high ranking Moon Child who also went by the name Ifrit. He had a brother named Ben and a sister named Rosa.  
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|joined = August 10, 2012
 
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|count = 609
 
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|joined = February 19, 2015
 
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|postnum = 282
 
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|posted = Mar 6 2015, 03:44 AM</span>
 
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|post = <poem><nowiki>http://picosong.com/26Zg/</nowiki></poem>
 
 
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<p>For their efforts, the players were given an audio file recorded by Patrem. However, due to various distortions, it was very difficult to make out his voice. Thankfully, the players were able to submit the "<b>Bunny Hood</b>" to receive a clearer version of this audio, which is transcribed below:</p>
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{{storyCharSum|name=Rosa<br /><br />|image=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/3/31/Rosasmall2.png
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|desc=<b>Status:</b> Unknown
  
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<div class="storyscript"><poem>Children, I’ve been asked “Who is Vincent?” You foolish children have spent quite some time to dive into the matter. However, I shall now unmask what wisdom you may know in time. At this time 'I do not dwell within him. However, now, I shall ((exist / dwell))' within him. After you have ((unintelligible)) the rank of Overseer, the chosen must move forward. ((Some accident / A ceremonial accident )) is essential. A ((section / sanction)) They will be having an Ascension. What the fool said about his soul, and my cruel nature ((unintelligible roar)); Understand detectives… You’ll find the FATHER. Vincent, I’m afraid, must now carry on his journey.</poem></div>
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A Moon Child and the sister of Matt. She is similar to a character from Vampire: The Masquerade who shares the same name with her.
  
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<p>Sadly, Patrem's voice is still very difficult to understand and archives of this audio do not exist.</p>
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She vanished after Kelbris began knocking on her door, leaving her fate unknown. She briefly returned to assist the players on Within Hubris.
 +
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<p>Patrem seems to be responding to the players' constant inquiries regarding <b>Vincent</b>. Here, he reveals that Vincent is the individual who he was trapped inside of at the fishery. From what we can discern from this audio, it seem as though Patrem became trapped within Vincent at some point after <b>2009</b> - likely due to an accident that took place during a cult-related ceremony.</p>
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{{storyCharSum|name=Chris<br /><br />|image=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/e/ea/Chrisavi1.png
 +
|desc=<b>Aliases:</b> Nekko
 +
<b>Status:</b> Ascended (2010)
  
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<p>On <span class="storydate">March 7th, 2015</span>, Letschasethemouse underwent an odd change. The background changed to a misty photograph of a field and someone other than Doug began using it to contact the players:</p>
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A young Moon Child who also went by the name Nekko. Despite his age, he was a relatively high ranking and a moderator of the cult's website.
  
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<div class="storyscriptblog2"><poem>
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Unfortunately, he was ascended before the players were able to intervene. His spirit was later trapped inside Wayward Horizon.
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<p style="color: rgba(51, 51, 51, 1); font-size:20px; font-family:serif; text-align:center;">3/7/15</p>
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I don't have much time, sadly. There's a lot of work to be done.
 
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If anyone happens to be paying attention, feel free to ask anything. I'm sure you have a lot of questions. Otherwise, we will meet soon enough.
 
  
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-M
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{{storyCharSum|name=Spencer<br /><br />|image=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/7/76/Spenceravi2.png
 +
|desc=<b>Aliases:</b> Darkworld23, Duskworld23
 +
<b>Status:</b> Ascended (2010)
  
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<img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/8/87/Themist.jpg" alt="" style="width: 50%; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; display: block; box-shadow: 0 0 10px gray;"/></poem>
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A high ranking Moon Child who also went by the name Duskworld23.  
  
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His spirit was trapped inside Wayward Horizon on Within Hubris, implying that he had been ascended.
 +
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<p>An individual simply going by <b>M</b> offers to answer some of the players' questions.</p>
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{{storyCharSum|name=Kevin<br /><br />|image=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/5/55/Insidi2.png
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|desc=<b>Aliases:</b> Insidiae
 +
<b>Status:</b> Unknown
  
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<div class="storyconvo">
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A high ranking Moon Child who also went by the name Insidiae. Not much is known about him.
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<div class="pov2"><div class="talker"><b>Sengi</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/f/f5/Sengiavi2.png"></div><p>The tree int he middle of a plain... covered in fog? Does this revolve around ascending in the cult of Luna?</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>"M"</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/e/e0/Msmall.png"></div><p>I do not know what you mean by "cult".</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov2"><div class="talker"><b>Player</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/7/71/Bloganon.png"></div><p>hello m if you are still here
 
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i have a few questions. firstly what brings you to post here, and second hows doug holding up</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>"M"</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/e/e0/Msmall.png"></div><p>Doug is alive, but I don't know how he's doing.</p></div>
 
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<p>"M" seems somewhat put-off by the assertion that Doug's religion is a cult. They also aren't sure what exactly Doug's doing, though they believe that he's currently still alive. Shortly after this, "M" posted another update:</p>
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After Matt's disappearance, he briefly took over his duties. His fate is currently unknown.
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{{storyCharSum|name=Mr. D<br /><br />|image=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/2/25/Blacksquar.png
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<p style="color: rgba(51, 51, 51, 1); font-size:20px; font-family:serif; text-align:center;">3/7/15 - Time</p>
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|desc=<b>Aliases:</b> The Father
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Sorry my last post was so urgent.
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<b>Status:</b> Unknown
  
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They took Doug, which I didn't expect. They need him for something, but they won't tell me.
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The Moon Children's leader, "The Father". The cult feared and worshipped him.
 +
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And I need your help, because he's in obvious danger. I don't know what to do.</poem>
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{{storyCharSum|name=Luna<br /><br />|image=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/2/25/Blacksquar.png
 +
|desc=<b>Aliases:</b> Mother
 +
<b>Status:</b> Unknown
  
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</div>
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A goddess of the moon worshipped by the Moon Children. She's described as both a loving figure of salvation and a fearsome entity of destruction.
  
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<p>"M" claims that Doug's been kidnapped by the cult. He fears that Doug is in some sort of danger and isn't sure what to do.</p>
+
She supposedly whispers to her various followers. Sometimes these are prophecies. Other times they are signs of an impending ascension.
 +
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<div class="storyconvo">
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{{storyCharSum|name=Kelbris<br /><br />|image=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/1/1b/Kelbrissmally.png
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<div class="pov2"><div class="talker"><b>Eve</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/4/4d/WHeve.png"></div><p>How can we help you?</p></div>
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|desc=<b>Status:</b> Ascended (1998)
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>"M"</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/e/e0/Msmall.png"></div><p>That's for you to tell me.</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov2"><div class="talker"><b>Player</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/7/71/Bloganon.png"></div><p>Who took him? Do you have any idea where? Also, who are you?</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>"M"</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/e/e0/Msmall.png"></div><p>Our group. The fishery. Mason.</p></div>
 
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</div>
 
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<br  style="clear:both;"/><br />
 
  
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<p>"M" reveals that he's actually <b>Mason</b> - Doug's friend who handles the cult's recruitment process. Mason is the same individual who invited Doug into the cult and oversaw Jacob's initiation.</p>
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A former Moon Child who was ascended in 1998. Before his death, Luna supposedly whispered her prophecy to him.
  
−
<div class="storyconvo">
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Kelbris briefly returned and confronted Matt and Rosa, causing them to vanish. He was also seen guarding Wayward Horizon on Within Hubris.
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<div class="pov2"><div class="talker"><b>Player</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/7/71/Bloganon.png"></div><p>Do you have any other information in regard to Doug getting taken? I want to help in any way I can. Does Vincent have anything to do with this? Do you know who that is?</p></div>
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Mason</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/e/e0/Msmall.png"></div><p>Some members took him to a secluded area, and I haven't seen from him. I checked his blog, and saw "help". That's why I know something's up.</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov1a"><p>We don't have anyone who is named Vincent, as far as I know. That's a good name, though.</p></div>
 
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</div>
 
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<br  style="clear:both;"/><br />
 
  
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<p>Strangely, Mason claims he doesn't know of anyone named <b>Vincent</b> within the cult. This implies that Vincent likely joined the cult at some point after <b>2009</b>.</p>
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{{storyCharSum|name=Kayd<br /><br />|image=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/3/39/Ryusmoll.png
 +
|desc=<b>Aliases:</b> Ryukaki
 +
<b>Status:</b> Dead (2010)
  
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<div class="storyconvo">
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A player who was given the login information to The Truth. Unfortunately, this made him a target.
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<div class="pov2"><div class="talker"><b>Eve</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/4/4d/WHeve.png"></div><p>Can you go to the fishery? Record what happens and everything you see and hear, in case we need to go to the authorities.</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Mason</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/e/e0/Msmall.png"></div><p>I can try, though I'm worried they won't like me getting close.</p></div>
 
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</div>
 
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<br  style="clear:both;"/><br />
 
  
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<p>The players suggest that Mason travels to the Fishery in the hopes of finding out exactly what happened to Doug. However, they realized that Mason might need some extra help. This entire conversation is archived below:</p>
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In his final moments he gave the players the coveted login information. Sadly, this was too little, too late, and he was presumably killed.
 +
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<div class="transcript mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="width: 90%; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;">
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{{storyCharSum|name=Thomas<br /><br />|image=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/2/25/Blacksquar.png
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<p style="display:inline;">
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|desc=<b>Status:</b> Unknown
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<b>
 
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Mason Blog Comments
 
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</b>
 
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</p>
 
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<div class="mw-collapsible-content"><poem>Time
 
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Sorry my last post was so urgent.
 
  
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They took Doug, which I didn't expect. They need him for something, but they won't tell me. And I need your help, because he's in obvious danger. I don't know what to do.</span>
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An old friend of Kayd. Thomas assisted in uploading Kayd's files before the latter disappeared.}}
  
 +
{{storyCharSum|name=Quia<br /><br />|image=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/2/25/Blacksquar.png
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|desc=<b>Status:</b> Unknown
  
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Comments:
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Kayd's girlfriend. She seemed rather concerned about Kayd's sudden obsession with the Moon Children.
  
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8:31 PM Wickedlady4180: "How can we help you?"
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She was last seen lamenting Kayd's disappearance. }}
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<span class="vip">8:32 PM DandP: "That's for you to tell me."</span>
 
  
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8:39 PM Anonymous: "Who took him? Do you have any idea where? Also, who are you?"
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{{storyCharSum|name=Guide<br /><br />|image=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/5/55/Insidi2.png
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<span class="vip">8:42 PM DandP: "Our group. The fishery. Mason."</span>
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|desc=<b>Status:</b> Unknown
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8:44 PM ADU: "Do you have any idea why they would have taken Doug?"
 
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<span class="vip">8:45 PM DandP: ""They took Doug, which I didn't expect. They need him for something, but they won't tell me."?"</span>
 
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8:45 PM ADU: "oh yeah... I dont notice things ._."
 
  
−
8:51 PM Anonymous: "Do you have any other information in regard to Doug getting taken? I want to help in any way I can. Does Vincent have anything to do with this? Do you know who that is?"
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An account on Within Hubris that was seemingly used for out-of-character announcements from the GM. Strangely, it used Kevin's avatar.
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<span class="vip">8:53 PM DandP: "Some members took him to a secluded area, and I haven't seen from him. I checked his blog, and saw "help". That's why I know something's up. We don't have anyone who is named Vincent, as far as I know. That's a good name, though."</span>
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8:53 PM Wickedlady4180: "Can you go to the fishery? Record what happens and everything you see and hear, in case we need to go to the authorities."
 
−
<span class="vip">9:15 PM DandP: "I can try, though I'm worried they won't like me getting close."</span></poem>
 
−
</div>
 
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</div>
 
  
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</p>Back on Within Hubris, the player ADULT_LINK submitted the "<b>New Wave Bossa Nova</b>" in an attempt to summon an ally for Mason. This led to the following interaction:</p>
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<div class="storyWHholder">
 
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<div class="WHpost">
 
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|image = WHal.gif
 
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|group = Players
 
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|count = 536
 
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|joined =  May 13, 2014
 
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|postnum = 285
 
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|posted = Mar 7 2015, 09:01 PM</span>
 
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|post = <poem><youtube>https://youtu.be/fI0gVyYTOS0</youtube></poem>
 
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|user = Helper
 
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|image = 230px-Postmans-Hat.png
 
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|group = Canon Characters
 
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|count = 612
 
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|joined = February 23, 2015
 
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|postnum = 286
 
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|posted = Jan 22 2015, 08:44 PM</span>
 
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|post = <poem>Do you have need of assistance, adventurer?</poem>
 
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</div>
  
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<p>Using The Ocarina, the players managed to summon <b>Helper</b> - the entity that previously delivered them Doug's mail and Psychology notes.</p>
 
  
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<div class="storyWHholder">
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<h2 style="border: none; margin-bottom: 0px;">Glossary</h2>
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<div class="WHpost">
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<div class="fadediv"></div>
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<p>Expand the section below to access a list of terms. Hover over them to view their definitions.</p>
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<div class="charSummaries">
 +
<div class="transcript mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
 +
<div class="mw-collapsible-content">
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<br />
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 +
<h3>Misc.</h3>
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<div class="fadediv"></div><p class="bufferBlankText"> </p>
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{{#simple-tooltip: /x/ | A paranormal image board on 4chan. This is where Alex first shared his story regarding BEN.}}
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 +
{{#simple-tooltip: 423 | A recurring number throughout the ARG. It likely spawns from the date Ben drowned - April 23rd, 2002.}}
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<h3>A</h3>
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<div class="fadediv"></div><p class="bufferBlankText"> </p>
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{{#simple-tooltip: ARG | Short for "Alternate Reality Game", an ARG is an interactive story that usually involves player input and the use of a wide array of media.}}
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{{#simple-tooltip: Ascension | A ceremony practiced by the Moon Children that involves the ritualistic suicide of the participant. The souls of ascended individuals are capable of existing within technology, albeit with varying degrees of freedom. The Moon Children claim those who have ascended become one with Luna.}}
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 +
<h3>B</h3>
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<div class="fadediv"></div><p class="bufferBlankText"> </p>
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{{#simple-tooltip: Ben Drowned | A general term used to refer to Jadusable's ARG.}}
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<h3>C</h3>
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<div class="fadediv"></div><p class="bufferBlankText"> </p>
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{{#simple-tooltip: Cipher | A cipher is a message that's been encoded. There are many different types of ciphers and players are expected to solve a great deal of them throughout the ARG.}}
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{{#simple-tooltip: Cherrington High | A Highschool in Florida that Doug and Mason attend.}}
  
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{{WHEntry
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{{#simple-tooltip: Cleverbot | A website where users can chat with an AI chat-bot. BEN briefly utilized this website to speak with Alex.}}
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|user = Eve
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|image = WHeve.png
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{{#simple-tooltip: Contact Page | A unique type of webpage found on Youshouldnthavedonethat.net. Each Moon Child has their own Contact Page containing unique content.}}
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|group = Players
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{{#simple-tooltip: Cycle | A mechanic from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. The game plays out over the course of three days as the moon slowly descends into the world. Link must play the Song of Time to travel back in time to the beginning of the three day cycle while slowly making progress.<br /><br />Within the ARG, cycles refer to the three day cycle that Youshouldnthavedonethat.net is stuck in. Similarly, it can be reset via the Song of Time as well.}}
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|joined = January 23, 2015
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|postnum = 287
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|posted = Mar 7 2015, 09:03 PM</span>
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<br style="clear:both;"/>
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|post = <poem>We need to help Douglas, how can we?</poem>
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<h3>D</h3>
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{{#simple-tooltip: Dark Link | A character from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. Usually encountered as an enemy, Dark Link is a malicious, shadowy version of the protagonist.<br /><br />Within the ARG, Dark Link is used to represent a malicious entity that is hunting down Alex - presumably BEN.}}
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|image = 230px-Postmans-Hat.png
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|group = Canon Characters
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{{#simple-tooltip: Deku Link | A unique form that Link can obtain in The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask by wearing the Deku Mask. It grants him the ability spin and fly by using flowers. It also replaces his Ocarina with some horns.<br /><br />Within the ARG, Deku Link is often used to represent Doug.}}
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|joined = February 23, 2015
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{{#simple-tooltip: Downloadable Files | Many different files that were found on Youshouldnthavedonethat.net after The Glitch. These included hidden messages as well as regular assets normally found on the site.}}
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|postnum = 288
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|posted = Mar 7 2015, 09:05 PM</span>
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|post = <poem>I'm not particularly sure. Has he lost his mail?</poem>
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<h3>E</h3>
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|user = ADULT_LINK
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|image = WHal.gif
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{{#simple-tooltip: Elegy of Emptiness | An Ocarina song from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. It is used to create Elegy Statues - hollow copies of Link and his various forms.<br /><br />Within the ARG, it holds some connection to BEN due to the fact that he is often represented by Link's Elegy Statue.}}
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|group = Players
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|count = 536
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{{#simple-tooltip: Elegy Statue | An object from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. These are uncanny, hollow copies of Link and his various forms summoned by playing the Elegy of Emptiness.<br /><br />Within the ARG, they are usually associated with BEN due to the fact that he is often represented by Link's Elegy Statue.}}
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|joined = May 13, 2014
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|postnum = 289
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{{#simple-tooltip: Epona | A character from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. Epona is Link's trusted horse companion.}}
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|posted = Mar 7 2015, 09:07 PM</span>
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|post = <poem><span style="color:#090;">No, he seems to have gone missing. He may have lost his mail as well though.</span></poem>
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{{#simple-tooltip: Epona's Song | An Ocarina song from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. It is used to summon Epona - Link's horse.<br /><br />Within the ARG, it helped stabilize Patrem, allowing him to speak more clearly.}}
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|user = Helper
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<br style="clear:both;"/>
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|image = 230px-Postmans-Hat.png
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<h3>F</h3>
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|group = Canon Characters
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<div class="fadediv"></div><p class="bufferBlankText"> </p>
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|count = 612
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|joined = February 23, 2015
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{{#simple-tooltip: Fairy | An item from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. These magical fairies can be captured within bottles. If Link possesses one when they die, they will be revived.<br /><br />Within the ARG, fairies are used to revive characters - much like their in-game counterparts.}}
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|postnum = 290
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|posted = Mar 7 2015, 09:10 PM</span>
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{{#simple-tooltip: Father | A title that's usually used to refer to the leader of a cult.}}
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|post = <poem>Ooh, that's droll. I may be able to find him, which will take me a fair bit.
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However, I will find the perpetrator who has taken his mail! Thank you for bringing this information to light, adventurer!</poem>
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{{#simple-tooltip: File 59 | One of the many Downloadable Files found on Youshouldnthavedonethat.net. File 59 featured Matt's final message. It also featured an infamously difficult cipher that took many years to solve.}}
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|user = TheSeekerOfLight
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<br style="clear:both;"/>
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|image = WHseek.gif
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<h3>G</h3>
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|group = Players
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<div class="fadediv"></div><p class="bufferBlankText"> </p>
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|count = 44
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|joined = August 10, 2012
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{{#simple-tooltip: GM | Short for "Gamemaster". The "GM" refers to the individual who is currently creating the ARG. They usually only interact with the players to make out-of-character announcements.}}
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|postnum = 291
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|posted = Mar 7 2015, 09:10 PM</span>
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{{#simple-tooltip: Goron Link | A unique form that Link can obtain in The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask by wearing the Goron Mask. It grants him the ability to roll quickly and break boulders. It also replaces his Ocarina with some drums.}}
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|post = <poem><span style="color:yellow;font-weight:bold;">Dont forget his marbles.</span></poem>
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{{#simple-tooltip: Guestbook | A section of Youshouldnthavedonethat.net where users can leave comments. It is used for communication between Moon Children and players alike.}}
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{{WHEntry
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|user = Helper
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|image = 230px-Postmans-Hat.png
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<br style="clear:both;"/>
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|group = Canon Characters
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<h3>H</h3>
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|count = 612
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|joined = February 23, 2015
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|postnum = 292
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{{#simple-tooltip: Happy Mask Salesman | A character from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. An unsettling mask collector who tasks Link with retrieving Majora's Mask.<br /><br />Within the ARG, the Happy Mask Salesman is used to represent Mr. D - "The Father".}}
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|posted = Mar 7 2015, 09:12 PM</span>
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|post = <poem>That reminds me of when I was a child, fair maiden!
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{{#simple-tooltip: Haunted Majora's Mask Cartridge | An old copy of The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask that was given to Alex by the Old Man. It contained the malicious entity known as BEN.}}
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I used to love my marbles, with small hornets encased inside.</poem>
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{{#simple-tooltip: Hiatus | A pause or break within a project - usually enacted by the GM due to non-canon factors such as lack of funds or other work.}}
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{{WHEntry
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|user = Mugen Kagemaru
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{{#simple-tooltip: Hubris | A term that's generally used to describe overwhelming pride or ego. It's used fairly often within the ARG - examples being "Within Hubris" or "Matt Hubris".}}
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|image = WHmug.png
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|group = Players
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{{#simple-tooltip: Hubris Game | A name given to the unfinished videogame that was originally going to be playable for the final arc of Jadusable's ARG.}}
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|count = 83
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|joined = August 15, 2012
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|postnum = 293
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|posted = Mar 7 2015, 09:14 PM</span>
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<h3>I</h3>
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|post = <poem>Beware the Twelfth Tribe, they observe too much.</poem>
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{{#simple-tooltip: Internet Detectives | The main player group participating in the Johnisdead ARG.}}
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|user = Helper
+
 
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|image = 230px-Postmans-Hat.png
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{{#simple-tooltip: Inverted Song of Time | An Ocarina song from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. It is used to slow the flow of time, giving Link more time to make progress.}}
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|group = Canon Characters
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|count = 612
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{{#simple-tooltip: IRC | Short for "Internet Relay Chat", IRC refers to a type of chatroom on the internet.}}
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|joined = February 23, 2015
+
 
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|postnum = 294
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−
|posted = Mar 7 2015, 09:17 PM</span>
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<br style="clear:both;"/>
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|post = <poem>That's dumb.</poem>
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<h3>J</h3>
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<div class="fadediv"></div><p class="bufferBlankText"> </p>
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<br style="clear:both;" />
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{{#simple-tooltip: Jadusable | Alex's YouTube channel where he uploaded his haunted videogame footage. It is now presumably under BEN's control.}}
−
</div>
+
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Jadusable's ARG | Ben Drowned - the ARG involving Alex discovering a haunted Majora's Mask cartridge.}}
 +
 
 +
 
 +
<br style="clear:both;"/>
 +
<h3>F</h3>
 +
<div class="fadediv"></div><p class="bufferBlankText"> </p>
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: King Kong | An April Fools joke uploaded to the Jadusable YouTube channel involving Goron Link dancing to "King Kong" by Jibbs. It is believed by many to be non-canon.}}
 +
 
 +
 
 +
<br style="clear:both;"/>
 +
<h3>L</h3>
 +
<div class="fadediv"></div><p class="bufferBlankText"> </p>
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Lens of Truth | An item from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. The Lens of Truth allows Link to view objects that were previously invisible.<br /><br />Within the ARG, it's been used as a password.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Letschasethemouse | A blog created by Doug that's hosted on Blogspot.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Link | The playable character from The Legend of Zelda series. He has a variety of different tools and powers at his disposal.<br /><br />Within the ARG, Link is often used to represent the current protagonist and whoever is currently affected by The Ocarina.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Link.exe | A chat program that was meant to be used alongside the Remember.exe and Lostmemory.exe games.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Lostmemory.exe | A fan-made game that involved many haunting real-time interactive elements. It was accompanied by Remember.exe and Link.exe.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Luna Prophecy | A prophecy spoken by Kelbris after Luna supposedly whispered it to him. In addition to the number three being spoken numerous times, the prophecy contained the following:<br /><br />"They (unintelligible) break free of the prison"<br /><br />"Engulf the world"<br /><br />"Man will be betrayed by its minions and I will be brought down from the sky, consuming everything"}}
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 +
 
 +
<br style="clear:both;"/>
 +
<h3>M</h3>
 +
<div class="fadediv"></div><p class="bufferBlankText"> </p>
  
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<p>Helper agrees to locate Doug. However, true to character, he seems more interested in the well-being of his mail...</p>
+
{{#simple-tooltip: Majora's Mask | An item from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. It is a taboo mask that was used in ancient rituals. It now houses the evil spirit Majora, who possesses anyone who wears the mask.}}
  
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<div class="storyWHholder">
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{{#simple-tooltip: Masks | A type of item from The Legend of Zelda: majora's Mask. The game features a variety of masks that Link can wear - often for unique or magical effects.<br /><br />Within the ARG, masks are often worn by the cult as a representation of one's true identity.}}
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<div class="WHpost">
+
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Mask of Truth | An item from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. When worn, it allowed Link to speak to Gossip Stones and read the minds of animals.<br /><br />Within the ARG, the Mask of Truth resulted in Doug's past self temporarily being replaced by his present current-day self.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Meta | Anything that relates to non-canon or out-of-character aspects of the ARG. An example would be a character making a reference to the fact that the ARG is a fictional story - this would be a meta joke.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Methods of Revolution | A film project that Alex Hall attempted to pursue after placing Ben Drowned on hiatus.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Moon Children | A group of characters from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. These enigmatic children are found within the moon wearing masks and speaking riddles.<br /><br />Within the ARG, the Moon Children is a cult that worships the moon goddess Luna. They are led by Mr. D and are found on Youshouldnthavedonethat.net.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Moon Children Forums | A message board owned by the Moon Children. Though they're implied to exist, the players never get to visit them themselves.}}
 +
 
 +
 
 +
<br style="clear:both;"/>
 +
<h3>N</h3>
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<div class="fadediv"></div><p class="bufferBlankText"> </p>
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: New Wave Bossa Nova | An Ocarina song from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. It is used to restore the voice of the character Lulu, allowing her to speak once again.<br /><br />Within the ARG, it usually has the effect of summoning new characters to speak with the players.}}
  
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|user = <span style="color:orange !important;">Dawn Of a New Day</span>
 
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|image = WHdawn.gif
 
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|group = Other / Character
 
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|count = 3
 
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|joined = August 10, 2012
 
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|posted = Mar 7 2015, 09:18 PM
 
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|postnum = 296
 
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|post = <poem>How heavy is the package that you carry? [[File:WHjad.png]]</poem>
 
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{{WHEntry
 
−
|user = Helper
 
−
|image = 230px-Postmans-Hat.png
 
−
|group = Canon Characters
 
−
|count = 612
 
−
|joined = February 23, 2015
 
−
|posted = Mar 7 2015, 09:20 PM
 
−
|postnum = 297</span>
 
−
|post = <poem>I am not currently in possession of any package.
 
  
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However, I assure you that I deliver quite large packages, demon.</poem>
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<br style="clear:both;"/>
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<h3>O</h3>
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{{WHEntry
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|user = <span style="color:orange !important;">Dawn Of a New Day</span>
+
 
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|image = WHdawn.gif
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{{#simple-tooltip: Oath to Order | An Ocarina song from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. It is meant to be used near the end of the game to summon The Four Giants to stop the moon's descent.<br /><br />Within the ARG, this is a somewhat dangerous song. Because it was submitted far too early, it's implied to have been what led to Alex's death.}}
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|group = Other / Character
+
 
−
|count = 3
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{{#simple-tooltip: OOC | Short for "Out-of-character", this refers to anything that is not canon. An example is announcements from the GM.}}
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|joined = August 10, 2012
+
 
−
|posted = Mar 7 2015, 09:22 PM
+
 
−
|postnum = 300</span>
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<br style="clear:both;"/>
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|post = <poem><div class="WHspoiler">Helper <span style="float:right;">Mar 7 2015, 09:20 PM</span></div><div class="WHspoilertext">demon.</div>
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<h3>P</h3>
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y</poem>
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<div class="fadediv"></div><p class="bufferBlankText"> </p>
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{{#simple-tooltip: Postman's Hat | An item from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. When worn, it allowed Link to check the various postboxes around town.<br /><br />Within the ARG, it summoned Helper - an entity somewhat reminiscent of the Postman from Majora's Mask.}}
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|user = Helper
+
 
−
|image = 230px-Postmans-Hat.png
+
 
−
|group = Canon Characters
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<br style="clear:both;"/>
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|count = 612
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<h3>R</h3>
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|joined = February 23, 2015
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<div class="fadediv"></div><p class="bufferBlankText"> </p>
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|postnum = 301
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−
|posted = Mar 7 2015, 09:24 PM</span>
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{{#simple-tooltip: Remember.exe | A fan-made game that involved many haunting real-time interactive elements. It was accompanied by Lostmemory.exe and Link.exe.}}
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|post = <poem>You know why, villain.
+
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Rosa | A character from Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines. She has the eerie ability to peer into the future and give fortunes.<br /><br />Within the ARG, there is a character who is also named Rosa. She behaves somewhat similarly to her videogame counterpart.}}
  
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You seek to create what the others do not.</poem>
 
−
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{{WHEntry
 
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|user = wickedlady4180
 
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|image = WHeve.png
 
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|group = Players
 
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|count = 593
 
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|joined = January 23, 2015
 
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|posted = Mar 7 2015, 09:25 PM
 
−
|postnum = 302
 
−
|post = <poem>Helper, if you find our friend Douglas. Can you deliver him to his home?</poem>
 
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}}
 
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{{WHEntry
 
−
|user = Mugen Kagemaru
 
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|image = WHmug.png
 
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|group = Players
 
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|count = 83
 
−
|joined = August 15, 2012
 
−
|postnum = 303
 
−
|posted = Mar 7 2015, 09:25 PM</span>
 
−
|post = <poem>What would that be?</poem>
 
−
}}
 
−
{{WHEntry
 
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|user = Helper
 
−
|image = 230px-Postmans-Hat.png
 
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|group = Canon Characters
 
−
|count = 612
 
−
|joined = February 23, 2015
 
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|posted = Mar 7 2015, 09:28 PM
 
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|postnum = 304
 
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|post = <poem><div class="WHspoiler">wickedlady4180 <span style="float:right;">Mar 7 2015, 09:25 PM</span></div><div class="WHspoilertext">Helper, if you find our friend Douglas. Can you deliver him to his home?</div>
 
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I am not sure he would be able to survive with a lack of oxygen, maiden.
 
−
<div class="WHspoiler">Mugen Kagemaru </div><div class="WHspoilertext">What would that be?
 
−
</div>
 
−
The near opposite of what you wish, adventurer.</poem>
 
−
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{{WHEntry
 
−
|user = Mugen Kagemaru
 
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|image = WHmug.png
 
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|group = Players
 
−
|count = 83
 
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|joined = August 15, 2012
 
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|posted = Mar 7 2015, 09:31 PM
 
−
|postnum = 306
 
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|post = <poem>And what would be the near opposite of what we wish?</poem>
 
−
}}
 
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{{WHEntry
 
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|user = Helper
 
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|image = 230px-Postmans-Hat.png
 
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|group = Canon Characters
 
−
|count = 612
 
−
|joined = February 23, 2015
 
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|posted = Mar 7 2015, 09:35 PM
 
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|postnum = 307
 
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|post = <poem>Obviously the near opposite of what you wish, adventurer!
 
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</poem>
 
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−
<p>Strangely, Helper calls the player <b>Dawn</b> a "<b>Demon</b>". When asked the reason for this, Helper claims that Dawn "<span class="canquote">seeks to create what the others do not</span>", implying that his goals differed from that of the other players. This is possibly a reference to how Dawn would often joke about wanting to kill Doug.</p>
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<br style="clear:both;"/>
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<h3>S</h3>
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<div class="fadediv"></div><p class="bufferBlankText"> </p>
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Skull Kid | A character from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. Initially presented as the game's antagonist, it's later revealed that he was simply possessed by Majora's Mask.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Sonata of Awakening | An Ocarina song from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. It is used to enter the Woodfall Temple and awaken sleeping characters.<br /><br />Within the ARG, it resulted in Alex disappearing - presumably because it was submitted too early.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Song of Healing | An Ocarina song from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. It is used to heal damaged or cursed spirits.<br /><br />Within the ARG, it holds some connection to BEN due to its relation to the Song of Unhealing. It is also likely what summoned Kelbris, resulting in Rosa's disappearance.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Song of Storms | An Ocarina song from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. It is used to summon stormy weather and heal some spirits.<br /><br />Within the ARG, causes it to rain near the Link - much like its in-game counterpart.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Song of Time | An Ocarina song from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. It is used to travel back in time to he beginning of the three day cycle.<br /><br />Within the ARG, the Song of Time is used to reset the three day cycle found on Youshouldnthavedonethat.net.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Song of Unhealing | A reversed version of the Song of Healing from Majora's Mask. It is often accompanied by BEN, giving it very negative connotations.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: SSTV Signal | SSTV stands for "Slow Scan Television". An SSTV Signal is a series of strange sounds that can be ran through a program to reveal an image. Several of these have been used as puzzles throughout the ARG.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Steganography | The method of hiding messages or files within other files. Generally, a separate program is required to reveal these hidden files.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Stone Mask | An item from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. When worn, it allowed Link to become invisible to most enemies.<br /><br />Within the ARG, it makes the players' Link invisible - much like its in-game counterpart.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Submitting | The act of using The Ocarina to post songs, items, or videos from The Legend of Zelda franchise to affect the world of the ARG.}}
 +
 
 +
 
 +
<br style="clear:both;"/>
 +
<h3>T</h3>
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<div class="fadediv"></div><p class="bufferBlankText"> </p>
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Tenor | A strange type of account found on Within Hubris. The purpose of these Tenor accounts is unknown. There were Tenor accounts for nearly every character present in Jadusable's ARG.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: The Blackout | A mysterious event that effected the Moon Children. It is implied to be somewhat dangerous as various cultists went missing during it, including Alex, Ben, and Matt, depending on the cycle.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: The Fishery | An old fishery in the woods that's used as the meeting grounds for Patrem's cult.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: The Four Giants | A group from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. Four ancient beings who watch over the world. Throughout the game, they must be freed from malicious beasts so that they can be summoned to stop the moon's descent.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: The Glitch | An event that took place on Youshouldnthavedonethat.net in which the website briefly became corrupted. This was accompanied with gas mask imagery and the reveal of many Downloadable Files.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask | A video game produced by Nintendo for the Nintendo 64. The game featured an interesting time travel mechanic set over the course of three in-game days. Its strange mechanics and off-putting tone inspired much of Jadusable's ARG and Johnisdead.}}
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 +
{{#simple-tooltip: The Moon | An entity from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. Brandishing an uncanny grin, the moon has been cursed by Majora to slowly descent into the world, destroying it.<br /><br />Within the ARG, the moon is often used to represent Luna - a goddess of the moon who is said to possess a similarly destructive force.}}
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 +
{{#simple-tooltip: The Ocarina | A musical instrument present in The Legend of Zelda series. Link can use it to play a variety of magical songs, each with their own unique effect.<br /><br />Within the ARG, The Ocarina refers to the players' ability to affect the world by submitting songs, items, and videos from the Legend of Zelda franchise.}}
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 +
{{#simple-tooltip: The Orchard | A location that's believed to hold some significance to the Moon Children. Kayd briefly visited this location while fleeing.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: The Truth | A locked webpage on Youshouldnthavedonethat.net. Entering this page was one of the players' major goals. The login information was initially given to Ryukaki by Rosa.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: The Whiteout | A rule enforced onto the Moon Children by Mr. D. While The Whiteout is in place, cultists are forced to use unique names on their website - presumably for the sake of privacy.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: TheLinkMissing | A strange YouTube account that seems to belong to Alex. It was used to showcase the power of The Ocarina as Alex used it to assist the players.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: TheTruth.rtf | A text file containing all of Alex's notes. By hiding within it, BEN was able to spread across the internet, granting him an immense amount of freedom.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Time Links | A term mentioned by Doug. It presumably refers to different timelines or different points of time.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Transcendence | An unknown process that Kelbris presumably underwent. It likely holds some connection to ascension.}}
 +
 
 +
 
 +
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<h3>U</h3>
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 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Usekeb | A strange Tenor account that joined Within Hubris on April 22nd, 2011. Its purpose is unknown.}}
 +
 
 +
 
 +
<br style="clear:both;"/>
 +
<h3>V</h3>
 +
<div class="fadediv"></div><p class="bufferBlankText"> </p>
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Vigil | A common practice among the Moon Children. It is implied to be a holy gathering of various cultists.}}
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Vocaroo | A website that can be used to temporarily store recorded audio. It was used fairly often during the beginning of Johnisdead.}}
 +
 
 +
 
 +
<br style="clear:both;"/>
 +
<h3>W</h3>
 +
<div class="fadediv"></div><p class="bufferBlankText"> </p>
 +
 
 +
{{#simple-tooltip: Wayward Horizon | A mysterious locked sub-board on Within Hubris. This board seemed to house the ascended spirits of several Moon Children being guarded by Kelbris.}}
  
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<div class="storyWHholder">
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{{#simple-tooltip: Whatisben.com | A mysterious website that was hinted at during Jadusable's ARG. However, it went unused.}}
−
<div class="WHpost">
 
  
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{{WHEntry
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{{#simple-tooltip: Within Hubris | A message board created as a gathering place for the players during Jadusable's ARG. It held several mysteries such as Wayward Horizon and a variety of Tenor accounts for different characters. It was deleted on August 8th, 2012, though players created their own replacement called "Newbris". As such, the original deleted version is often referred to as "Oldbris".}}
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|user = Helper
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|image = 230px-Postmans-Hat.png
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|group = Canon Characters
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<br style="clear:both;"/>
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|count = 612
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<h3>Y</h3>
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|joined = February 23, 2015
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<div class="fadediv"></div><p class="bufferBlankText"> </p>
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|posted = Mar 7 2015, 09:35 PM
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|postnum = 308
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{{#simple-tooltip: Youshouldnthavedonethat.net | A website belonging to the Moon Children where they communicate and share their beliefs. It seems to have many strange oddities that only the players can perceive. It is also stuck within a three day cycle that the players can manipulate with The Ocarina. Sometimes shortened to "YSHDT.net". Not to be confused with YSHDT.com.}}
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|post = <poem>I have found what you seek. DAMAGED. He is where you imagined he would be, adventurer.</poem>
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−
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{{#simple-tooltip: YSHDT.com | A mysterious website discovered by TheLaw that contains cryptic messages and warnings. Not to be confused with Youshouldnthavedonethat.net.}}
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{{WHEntry
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|user = Helper
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−
|image = 230px-Postmans-Hat.png
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<br style="clear:both;"/>
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|group = Canon Characters
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<h3>Z</h3>
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|count = 612
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<div class="fadediv"></div><p class="bufferBlankText"> </p>
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|joined = February 23, 2015
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|posted = Mar 7 2015, 09:39 PM
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{{#simple-tooltip: Zora Link | A unique form that Link can obtain in The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask by wearing the Zora Mask. It grants him the ability to swim more efficiently and replaces his Ocarina with a guitar.}}
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|postnum = 311
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|post = <poem>i am not a hero</poem>
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|user = Mugen Kagemaru
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</div>
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|image = WHmug.png
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</div>
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|group = Players
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|count = 83
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|joined = August 15, 2012
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<h2 style="border: none; margin-bottom: 0px;">Story</h2>
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|posted = Mar 7 2015, 09:47 PM
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<div class="fadediv"></div>
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|postnum = 312
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<p>On <span class="storydate">March 3rd, 2015</span>, Doug posted the following on his blog, Letschasethemouse:</p>
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|post = <poem>Are you a savior?</poem>
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<div class="storyscriptblog"><poem>
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<p style="color: rgba(51, 51, 51, 1); font-size:20px; font-family:serif; text-align:center;">3/3/15</p>
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|user = Helper
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<p style="text-align:center;">Help</p></poem>
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|image = 230px-Postmans-Hat.png
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|group = Canon Characters
+
</div>
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|count = 612
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|joined = February 23, 2015
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<p>Doug was now in danger. Fearing for his safety, the players began searching for clues. They quickly discovered that the front page of YSHDT.com had updated and now featured a new video - <b>Name.swf</b>".</p>
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|posted = Mar 7 2015, 09:58 PM
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|postnum = 313
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<div class="videoblock">
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|post = <poem>[[File:DED_HELPER_%28RIP%29.jpg]]
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<p style="width: 60%;"><youtube>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACkrrLBILgQ</youtube></p>
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<p class="vidddescheader">Description</p>
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{{WHEntry
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<p class="vidddesccont" style="text-align: center; font-size: 18px; opacity: 0.3;">N/A</p>
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|user = wickedlady4180
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<p class="viddtagsheader">Tags</p>
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|image = WHeve.png
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<p class="viddtagscont" style="text-align: center; font-size: 18px; opacity: 0.3;">N/A</p>
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|group = Players
 
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|count = 593
 
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|joined = January 23, 2015
 
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|posted = Mar 7 2015, 10:09 PM
 
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|postnum = 314
 
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|post = <poem>Helper? Are you still here?</poem>
 
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|user = Helper
 
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|post = <poem><div class="WHspoiler">wickedlady4180 <span style="float:right;">Mar 7 2015, 10:09 PM</span></div><div class="WHspoilertext">Helper? Are you still here?</div>
 
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<p>Helper suddenly begins speaking very differently - now utilizing ciphers and cryptic sentences. He eventually posts an SSTV signal revealing the <b>Postman's Hat</b> laying in a pool of blood. This implies that Helper travelled to the fishery as requested by the players but was unfortunately killed. Back on Letschasethemouse, the players continued chatting with Mason:</p>
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<div class="pov2"><div class="talker"><b>Player</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/7/71/Bloganon.png"></div><p>Are you still there, friend?</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Mason</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/e/e0/Msmall.png"></div><p>Yes. I'm not dumb enough to run off without help, though I am watching the building now.</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov1a"><p>I saw another person jog past, and the yells were terrible. This isn't right.</p></div>
 
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<p>Mason claims he witnessed someone jog into the fishery and scream - possibly Helper moments before he died.</p>
 
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Mason</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/e/e0/Msmall.png"></div><p>There are about four men outside the building, as far as I can tell.</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov1a"><p>I'd take a picture, if I had a good enough camera for it. I can't see much else than the fishery and the people.</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov1a"><p>A bit ago I watched a few other people running around, but couldn't make anything out.</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov2"><div class="talker"><b>Eve</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/4/4d/WHeve.png"></div><p>Get as close as you can, without putting yourself in danger and tell us what you see? Please be careful.</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Mason</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/e/e0/Msmall.png"></div><p>I'm in danger just being here. The only reason they don't see me is because I'm low to the ground, and it's dark.</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov1a"><p>I'm feeling bad about this. Something's up. I hear chanting.</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov2"><div class="talker"><b>Eve</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/4/4d/WHeve.png"></div><p>Can you make out any of the chanting? Leave if its not safe. Dont be there longer than you need to.</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Mason</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/e/e0/Msmall.png"></div><p>No, I cannot. It's not anything I've ever heard before, even during our usual processions. I don't want to stand up, in case someone spots me.</p></div>
 
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<p>Mason says he can hear some chanting coming from the fishery, though it's not any sort of chanting that he's familiar with. This implies that some sort of ceremony might be taking place.</p>
 
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<div class="pov2"><div class="talker"><b>KendoSF</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/7/71/Bloganon.png"></div><p>Do you see anything near them that might cause a loud noise when hit? Maybe like a bell or a glass bottle maybe?</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Mason</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/e/e0/Msmall.png"></div><p>No, there's nothing that would cause a loud noise if I were to hit it.</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov1a"><p>There are rocks all over I guess I could throw, though. Right now I'm in a more forested part.</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov2"><div class="talker"><b>KendoSF</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/7/71/Bloganon.png"></div><p>Okay, try throwing a rock towards the other side of them. Get them to think you're in the other direction.</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Mason</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/e/e0/Msmall.png"></div><p>Alright, I'm going to try and throw a rock.</p></div>
 
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<p>The player KendoSF convinces Mason to throw a rock to distract the guards at the fishery. This full conversation is archived below:</p>
 
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<div class="mw-collapsible-content"><poem>9:14 PM Anonymous: "We have someone looking for Doug."
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<div class="mw-collapsible-content"><poem>This video begins completely black. The four photos seen on the page "<nowiki>http://yshdt.com/vincent</nowiki>" appear one by one. Deku Link's photo is highlighted, but a "<b>No</b>" symbol appears over it when it is selected. The cursor then highlights Zora Link's photo and selects it. The video then cuts to gameplay footage of Majora's Mask featuring the "file select" screen. The first save file is named "Douglas". The cursor then chooses the second save file, which has not been created yet.</poem>
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10:13 PM Anonymous: "Are you still there?"
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10:14 PM Anonymous: "Are you still there, friend?"
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<span class="vip">10:17 PM DandP: "Yes. I'm not dumb enough to run off without help, though I am watching the building now. I saw another person jog past, and the yells were terrible. This isn't right."</span>
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10:29 PM Anonymous: "What can you see?"
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<span class="vip">10:34 PM DandP: "There are about four men outside the building, as far as I can tell. I'd take a picture, if I had a good enough camera for it. I can't see much else than the fishery and the people. A bit ago I watched a few other people running around, but couldn't make anything out."</span>
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10:38 PM Anonymous: "Get as close as you can, without putting yourself in danger and tell us what you see? Please be careful."
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<span class="vip">10:40 PM DandP: "I'm in danger just being here. The only reason they don't see me is because I'm low to the ground, and it's dark. I'm feeling bad about this. Something's up. I hear chanting."</span>
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10:52 PM Anonymous: "Can you make out any of the chanting? Leave if its not safe. Dont be there longer than you need to."
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<span class="vip">10:55 PM DandP: "No, I cannot. It's not anything I've ever heard before, even during our usual processions. I don't want to stand up, in case someone spots me."</span>
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10:57 PM Anonymous: "Please be careful."
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The photo of Deku Link is highlighted as a "<b>NO</b>" symbol appears.
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The photo of Zora Link is highlighted and selected successfully.
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The File Select screen from Majora's Mask appears where Doug's save file can be seen.
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A new save file is created, though it has not yet been named.
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 +
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11:08 PM KendoSF: "Mason, we have an idea, but you have to stay hidden until we give you the signal alright?"
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<p>This video implies that Doug is currently unavailable as the players' Link. This was compounded by some text that was found on the same webpage - "<span class="canquote">You must act, for you cannot ‘save’ him</span>". Meanwhile, the player Jacob discovered a new page on YSHDT.com - "<span class="urls"><nowiki>http://yshdt.com/</nowiki><b>notes</b></span>". This page contained the image <b>notes.png</b>, which contained some fairly cryptic text:</p>
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<span class="vip">11:13 PM DandP: "Alright."</span>
 
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11:24 PM Wickedlady4180: "Ok, try to get closer. We think you won't be seen now."
 
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11:25 PM KendoSF: "Okay Mason, describe your surroundings. Do you see anything near them that might cause a loud noise when hit? Maybe like a bell or a glass bottle maybe?"
 
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<span class="vip">11:27 PM DandP: ((This message was deleted.))
 
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11:28 PM DandP: "No, there's nothing that would cause a loud noise if I were to hit it. There are rocks all over I guess I could throw, though. Right now I'm in a more forested part."</span>
 
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11:30 PM KendoSF: "Okay, try throwing a rock towards the other side of them. Get them to think you're in the other direction."
 
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<span class="vip">11:31 PM DandP: "Alright, I'm going to try and throw a rock."</span>
 
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11:39 PM Wickedlady4180: "Did they see you? Are you ok, Mason?"
 
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11:39 PM KendoSF: "Mason talk to me, are they following your movements. Do they actually see you?"</poem>
 
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<p>Shortly after this, Mason made another post:</p>
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<p style="color: rgba(51, 51, 51, 1); font-size:20px; font-family:serif; text-align:center;">3/7/15</p>
 
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I think I'm safe.
 
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After they saw me, they took a good look and chased after me.
 
  
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I can't see them anymore, so I think I'm good. I don't know what happened with them.
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If another timeline is created, outcomes are inevitable, and cannot be changed.
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All this running is making me tired.
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If multiple lines are merged, chaos ensues.
 +
She has told me of this happening. And it is her will.
 +
They seek to stop her. To cause this merged chaos.
 +
I was a fool to have my doubts.
 +
And that is why she chose me.
  
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<img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/8/88/Forestblog.jpg" style="width: 60%; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; display: block; box-shadow: 0 0 10px gray;" />
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There is one among you who is a traitor.
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There are two among you who must die.
 +
There are three that are thieving.
 +
And all are waiting.
  
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One of these will be your salvation.
 +
A soul for a soul. An eye for an eye.
 +
Light for dark.
 +
Circles for squares.
 +
Men for women.
 +
Wolves for cats.
  
−
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Time is like a network.
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<div class="pov2"><div class="talker"><b>KendoSF</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/7/71/Bloganon.png"></div><p>Take a break and stay hidden Mason. We need to rethink our plan of attack.</p></div>
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And networks can be hacked.</poem></div>
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Mason</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/e/e0/Msmall.png"></div><p>alright. im getting way tired anyways. gonna sleep</p></div>
 
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<p>Unfortunately, Mason was spotted by the guards at the fishery and fled into the woods. Thankfully, he's managed to evade them and is now presumably on his way home to get some rest.</p>
+
<p>This page features a excerpt from someone who was spoken to by <b>Luna</b> - possibly Doug himself. He discusses the creation of multiple different timelines and how the merging of them could lead to chaos - something that Luna herself supposedly wills. However, the players intend on opposing Luna and standing against her.</p>
  
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<p>On <span class="storydate">March 8th, 2015</span>, Helper's account on Within Hubris underwent an ominous change. His avatar changed to a distorted image of a moon as he posted the following video:</p>
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<p>This is followed by a poem that's directed at the players. This poem warns that one of the players is a traitor, two players must die, three players are thieves, and all of them are waiting. However, one of the following players will be their salvation:</p>
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A soul for a soul - (Unknown)
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An eye for an eye - (Unknown)
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Light - <b>TheSeekerOfLight</b>
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Dark - <b>Mugen Kagemaru</b>
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<div class="mw-collapsible-content"><poem>This video begins with gameplay footage of Majora's Mask. We are shown the creation of a new save file named "<b>Mason</b>", which is then selected. The video then cuts to in-game footage of Zora Link standing near Termina Field. The Postman's Hat and Picto Box can be seen in his inventory. Zora Link then exits the area.</poem>
 
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<div class="summary">
 
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<p class="fauxheader">Summary</p>
 
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<li>
 
<li>
−
Unfortunately, this video was not archived.
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Circles for squares - <b>CircleHunter</b>
 
</li>
 
</li>
 
<li>
 
<li>
−
This video contained gameplay footage of Majora's Mask featuring a new save file being created named "<b>Mason</b>".
+
Men for women - (Unknown)
 
</li>
 
</li>
 
<li>
 
<li>
−
The file is selected, cutting to footage of Zora Link standing in Termina Field while possessing the <b>Postman's Hat</b> and the <b>Picto Box</b>.
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Wolves for cats - <b>Wolfcat</b>
 
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<p>While this video was unfortunately not archived, it confirmed that Mason was the players' new Link, replacing Doug. Strangely, he seemed to possess the <b>Postman's Hat</b> in his inventory - an item that's usually representative of Helper. Speaking of Helper, it's strange that his account was active at all, as he was seemingly killed the day prior. Also, this video was uploaded to a new YouTube account simply named "<b>M</b>". At first, players assumed that this stood for "Mason". However, due to the account's association with Helper, they later agreed that it stood for "<b>Messenger</b>".</p>
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<p>Meanwhile, players discovered that the page "/help" had updated. Instead of just containing one instance of the word "<b>No</b>", it now featured the word copy-and-pasted across the page countless times. Scrolling down far enough would reveal an entire face made up of the word "No".</p>
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 +
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<p>As the players began to realize the gravity of Helper's death, they began mourning him. One player in particular, <b>Wolfcat</b>, made the following joke post on Within Hubris. However, this had some surprising results...</p>
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<p>Using steganography, players discovered a hidden text file within this image titled "<b>Masks.txt</b>".</p>
  
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<div class="storyscript"><poem>Your mask is everything.
−
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−
{{WHEntry
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|user = <span style="color:#FF00B3 !important;">Wolfcat</span>
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You wear it during rough times.
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|image = Wolfcat.png
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And during good times.
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|group = Players / Characters
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You wear it to show what you'd like to be outwardly.
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|count = 13
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And hide what you are inwardly.
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|joined = August 10, 2012
 
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|posted = Mar 8 2015, 02:32 AM
 
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|postnum = 325
 
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|post = <poem>Thank you for all your help, Helper.
 
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You were too innocent for this world.
 
  
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<youtube>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3Y4Ls0FvPQ</youtube></poem>
+
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−
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−
{{WHEntry
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|user = Helper
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Your mask is everything.
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|image = WHhelper.gif
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|group = Characters
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|count = 612
+
 
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|joined = February 23, 2015
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|posted = Mar 8 2015, 02:35 AM
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Then...
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|postnum = 326
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|post = <poem><div class="WHspoiler">Wolfcat <span style="float:right;">Mar 8 2015, 02:32 AM</span></div><div class="WHspoilertext">Thank you for all your help, Helper.
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−
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−
[[File:SoulRelease-TF04-JP-VG.jpg]]
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<p>It seems as though the concept of masks in relation to the cult are being tied with one's own identity - similar to what <b>Kayd</b> mentioned during Ben Drowned. However, this seems to imply that masks also act as shields protecting an individual's true identity. It then raises the question of what happens to someone when they lose this protection.</p>
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−
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<p>Meanwhile, the player Jacob discovered a new page on YSHDT.com - "<span class="urls"><nowiki>http://yshdt.com/</nowiki><b>yes</b></span>", which was simply titled "<b>r</b>" and saw the surprising return of the red dot. Since its enigmatic appearance on Doug's newspaper article, the red dot had become a bit of a memetic symbol amongst the players. Some even went so far as to give it a name - <b>Fred</b>.</p>
−
{{WHEntry
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−
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{{storyImage|url=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/d/d0/Dot.jpg}}
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|image = WHcircle.png
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<p>Fred the Red Dot even became a character in the player Wolfcat's webcomic "<b>Weenie-Licked</b>", which parodied various aspects of Within Hubris culture.</p>
−
|count = 35
+
 
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|joined = August 10, 2012
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{{storyImage|url=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/1/16/Wl494.gif}}
−
|posted = Mar 8 2015, 02:37 AM
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|postnum = 327
+
<p>Meanwhile, back on Within Hubris, Helper sent several players private messages titled "<span class="canquote">Hello! You have mail!</span>". These all contained the following image:</p>
−
|post = <poem>ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME</poem>
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−
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{{storyImage|url=https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/c/c0/Psych_notes.jpg}}
−
{{WHEntry
+
 
−
|user = Oceanstuck
+
<p>These seemed to be more of Doug's notes - this time for his Psychology class. Interestingly, the top-right corner featured a cipher that translated to the following: "<span class="canquote">You are in danger.</span>" While this initially seemed to be a warning directed at the players, it's also possible that this was Doug's subconscious warning him about his own eventual fate.</p>
−
|image = WHocean.png
+
 
−
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<p>On <span class="storydate">March 4th, 2015</span>, the player Eve submitted the video "<b>Not yet gone</b>", which featured Deku Link being revived from death. This was submitted because the players feared that Doug may have already been killed. However, this theory was seemingly debunked by Patrem:</p>
−
|count = 595
 
−
|joined = February 3, 2015
 
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|posted = Mar 8 2015, 02:38 AM
 
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|postnum = 328
 
−
|post = <poem><span style="font-weight: bold; color: #80a0ff !important; font-size: 31px;">HWAT</span></poem>
 
−
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{{WHEntry
 
−
|user = KidPichu
 
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|image = WHpichu.gif
 
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|group = Players
 
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|count = 54
 
−
|joined = August 11, 2012
 
−
|posted = Mar 8 2015, 02:42 AM
 
−
|postnum = 329
 
−
|post = <poem><nowiki>beautiful~</nowiki>
 
  
−
[[File:Sparkle-7.jpg]]
+
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−
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−
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−
{{WHEntry
+
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−
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+
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−
|image = WHal.gif
+
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−
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+
/Patrem\
−
|count = 536
 
−
|joined = May 13, 2014
 
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|posted = Mar 8 2015, 02:51 AM
 
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|postnum = 330
 
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|post = <poem><div class="WHspoiler">Helper <span style="float:right;">Mar 8 2015, 02:35 AM</span></div><div class="WHspoilertext"><div class="WHspoiler">Wolfcat <span style="float:right;">Mar 8 2015, 02:32 AM</span></div><div class="WHspoilertext">Thank you for all your help, Helper.
 
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[[File:SoulRelease-TF04-JP-VG.jpg]]</div>
 
−
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 +
<div class="quote">
 +
<p>"Attempting to breathe life into the living? You amuse me children."</p>
 
</div>
 
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−
 
−
<p>Wolfcat's joke submission of "<b>Hide and Seek</b>" by Imogen Heap was not only accepted, but fully successful, as Helper's account posted an image of the Yu-Gi-Oh card "<b>Soul Release</b>", implying that he had been revived. This was confirmed later in the day when Helper suddenly joined the Internet Detectives Skype group.</p>
 
−
 
−
<div class="storyconvo">
 
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>Hello adventurers!</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov2"><div class="talker"><b>ADULT_LINK</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/7/78/WHal.gif"></div><p>Hi helper! :D</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov2"><div class="talker"><b>Wolfcat</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/2/28/Wolfcat.png"></div><p>Hello!</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov2"><div class="talker"><b>Archery 2000</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/3/3b/Archery2000.png"></div><p>hi!</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov2"><div class="talker"><b>CircleHunter</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/a/a8/WHcircle.png"></div><p>Hey!</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov2"><div class="talker"><b>Helix 236</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/5/58/Anony.png"></div><p>hi</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov2"><div class="talker"><b>Jacob</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/8/8b/Jacobicon.png"></div><p>Helper!</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov2"><div class="talker"><b>Kidpichu</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/c/c1/WHpichu.gif"></div><p>oh hello ^-^</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>You seem to be excited to meet me.</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov1a"><p>Again.</p></div>
 
 
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<p>The players all eagerly greet Helper, happy to see him.</p>
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<p>Unsure of what exactly they should do next, the players turned to Patrem for answers. On <span class="storydate">March 6th, 2015</span>, he answered as follows:</p>
  
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>Sadly, I am no longer a messanger.</p></div>
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<div class="pov2"><div class="talker"><b>ADULT_LINK</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/7/78/WHal.gif"></div><p>did you lose your hat?</p></div>
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>Yes, I have lost an important part of my person, adventurer.</p></div>
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<div class="pov2"><div class="talker"><b>Jacob</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/8/8b/Jacobicon.png"></div><p>helper, Im happy that you are alive.</p></div>
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|user = <span style="#82005d !important">/Patrem\</span>
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>I do not feel alive.</p></div>
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<div class="pov1a"><p>I do not have a person any longer.</p></div>
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<div class="pov1a"><p>I am without a body. A most peculiar predicament.</p></div>
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|joined = February 19, 2015
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|postnum = N/A
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|posted = Mar 6th 2015, 01:30 AM</span>
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|post = <poem>At this moment my child, all we may do is wait. However I have been watching you all, and I see you enjoy playing games. So to amuse myself while I wait, I would like to play a game with the “detectives”. Should you all succeed I will reward you all for your display of wisdom. Tell the children precisely what I have told you now; What is the song that makes mother cry? Speak it then move to the fourth. Wqafi lps bpv npy dfza wyrraamam; You all have 1 hour, and remember, I am watching</poem>
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<p>Though Helper has been "revived", he now seems to be missing his hat - presumably the same <b>Postman's Hat</b> seen laying in the pool of blood that was now in Mason's possession. The hat seems very important to Helper - so much so that he refers to it as a part of his very being. He also claims that he currently lacks a body, possibly existing solely as a disembodied spirit.</p>
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<p>The players were given a cipher and a riddle - "<span class="canquote">What is the song that makes mother cry?</span>" Given that the cult's "Mother" is Luna, tears that fall from the heavens could be symbolic for rain, meaning the song in question would be the "<b>Song of Storms</b>". Using "Song of Storms" as a key, the players were able to solve the cipher and post it's solution on Within Hubris - "<span class="canquote">Speak now for you have succeeded</span>", leading to the following interaction:</p>
  
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<p>Helper also claims that he's no longer a "<span class="canquote">Messenger</span>" - likely due to the loss of his hat. Because of this, players theorized that there was a direct connection between Helper's Hat and his various accounts - including the "M", or "Messenger" YouTube channel, meaning whoever possesses Helper's Hat holds control over these accounts.</p>
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|user = Eve
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|group = Players
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|count = 593
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|joined = January 23, 2015
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|postnum = 279
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|posted = Mar 6 2015, 02:40 AM</span>
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|post = <poem>Song of Storms
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Speak now for you have succeeded</poem>
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|user = <span style="#82005d !important">/Patrem\</span>
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|group = Canon Characters
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|count = 609
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|joined = February 19, 2015
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|postnum = 280
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|posted = Mar 6 2015, 03:02 AM</span>
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|post = <poem><nowiki>http://picosong.com/26BF/</nowiki></poem>
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|user = GreyouTT
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|image = GreyouTT.png
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|group = Players
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|count = 27
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|joined = August 10, 2012
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|postnum = 281
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|posted = Mar 6 2015, 03:31 AM</span>
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|post = <poem><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/7/7f/Bunnyhood.png" alt="" />
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With these long ears, we can hear the voices that were unclear to us.</poem>
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{{WHEntry
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|user = <span style="#82005d !important">/Patrem\</span>
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|image = WHpatrem.png
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|group = Canon Characters
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|count = 609
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|joined = February 19, 2015
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|postnum = 282
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|posted = Mar 6 2015, 03:44 AM</span>
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|post = <poem><nowiki>http://picosong.com/26Zg/</nowiki></poem>
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<p>For their efforts, the players were given an audio file recorded by Patrem. However, due to various distortions, it was very difficult to make out his voice. Thankfully, the players were able to submit the "<b>Bunny Hood</b>" to receive a clearer version of this audio, which is transcribed below:</p>
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<div class="storyscript"><poem>Children, I’ve been asked “Who is Vincent?” You foolish children have spent quite some time to dive into the matter. However, I shall now unmask what wisdom you may know in time. At this time 'I do not dwell within him. However, now, I shall ((exist / dwell))' within him. After you have ((unintelligible)) the rank of Overseer, the chosen must move forward. ((Some accident / A ceremonial accident )) is essential. A ((section / sanction)) They will be having an Ascension. What the fool said about his soul, and my cruel nature ((unintelligible roar)); Understand detectives… You’ll find the FATHER. Vincent, I’m afraid, must now carry on his journey.</poem></div>
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 +
<p>Sadly, Patrem's voice is still very difficult to understand and archives of this audio do not exist.</p>
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 +
<p>Patrem seems to be responding to the players' constant inquiries regarding <b>Vincent</b>. Here, he reveals that Vincent is the individual who he was trapped inside of at the fishery. From what we can discern from this audio, it seem as though Patrem became trapped within Vincent at some point after <b>2009</b> - likely due to an accident that took place during a cult-related ceremony.</p>
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<p>On <span class="storydate">March 7th, 2015</span>, Letschasethemouse underwent an odd change. The background changed to a misty photograph of a field and someone other than Doug began using it to contact the players:</p>
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<div class="storyscriptblog2"><poem>
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<p style="color: rgba(51, 51, 51, 1); font-size:20px; font-family:serif; text-align:center;">3/7/15</p>
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I don't have much time, sadly. There's a lot of work to be done.
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If anyone happens to be paying attention, feel free to ask anything. I'm sure you have a lot of questions. Otherwise, we will meet soon enough.
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-M
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<img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/8/87/Themist.jpg" alt="" style="width: 50%; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; display: block; box-shadow: 0 0 10px gray;"/></poem>
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 +
<p>An individual simply going by <b>M</b> offers to answer some of the players' questions.</p>
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<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>Sengi</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/f/f5/Sengiavi2.png"></div><p>The tree int he middle of a plain... covered in fog? Does this revolve around ascending in the cult of Luna?</p></div>
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<div class="pov1b"><div class="talker"><b>"M"</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/e/e0/Msmall.png"></div><p>I do not know what you mean by "cult".</p></div>
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<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>Player</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/7/71/Bloganon.png"></div><p>hello m if you are still here
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i have a few questions. firstly what brings you to post here, and second hows doug holding up</p></div>
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<div class="pov1b"><div class="talker"><b>"M"</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/e/e0/Msmall.png"></div><p>Doug is alive, but I don't know how he's doing.</p></div>
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 +
<p>"M" seems somewhat put-off by the assertion that Doug's religion is a cult. They also aren't sure what exactly Doug's doing, though they believe that he's currently still alive. Shortly after this, "M" posted another update:</p>
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 +
<div class="storyscriptblog2"><poem>
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<p style="color: rgba(51, 51, 51, 1); font-size:20px; font-family:serif; text-align:center;">3/7/15 - Time</p>
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Sorry my last post was so urgent.
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 +
They took Doug, which I didn't expect. They need him for something, but they won't tell me.
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 +
And I need your help, because he's in obvious danger. I don't know what to do.</poem>
  
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<div class="pov2"><div class="talker"><b>GreyouTT</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/2/29/GreyouTT.png"></div><p>Must be hard to chat on skype from the spirit world.</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>Skype?</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov1a"><p>What is skype?</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov1a"><p>Your questions clog my ears, adventurers.</p></div>
 
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<p>Strangely, Helper seems to be unaware of what Skype is despite the fact that he's using it to speak with the players. This, combined with the fact that Helper seems to be hearing the players' messages audibly, implies that Helper perceives digital communication as though it were happening in-person - likely due to his status as an otherworldly ethereal being. A full archive of this conversation can be found below:</p>
 
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Chat with Helper
 
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<div class="mw-collapsible-content"><poem><span class="vip">[4:00:22  PM]  ***  Helper  joined.  ***</span>
 
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[4:00:35  PM]  ***  Kidpichu  is  confused  *** 
 
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[4:00:36  PM]  ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ:  helper? 
 
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[4:00:37  PM]  Wolfcat:  We  should  Mass  Debate  together  over  this  issue 
 
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[4:00:37  PM]  Archery  2000:  o.m.g. 
 
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[4:00:48  PM]  Archery  2000:  they  really  are  listening  to  the  chat 
 
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<span class="vip">[4:00:57  PM]  Helper:  Hello  adventurers!</span>
 
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[4:00:58  PM]  ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ:  Hi  helper!  :D 
 
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[4:01:00  PM]  Wolfcat:  Hello! 
 
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[4:01:01  PM]  Archery  2000:  hi! 
 
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[4:01:03  PM]  Captain  Desdinova:  Hey! 
 
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[4:01:04  PM]  Kidpichu:  XD 
 
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[4:01:09  PM]  Helix  236:  hi 
 
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[4:01:10  PM]  ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ:  so  what  happened? 
 
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[4:01:12  PM]  Le  lune  'Jayckup':  Helper! 
 
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[4:01:14  PM]  Archery  2000:  who  is  the  postman? 
 
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[4:01:14  PM]  Kidpichu:  oh  hello  ^-^ 
 
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<span class="vip">[4:01:24  PM]  Helper:  You  seem  to  be  excited  to  meet  me.</span>
 
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[4:01:25  PM]  Grey:  What  was  that  pixie  picture  I  don't  even 
 
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[4:01:32  PM]  Archery  2000:  yes  we  are 
 
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<span class="vip">[4:01:33  PM]  Helper:  Again.</span>
 
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[4:01:33  PM]  ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ:  Indeed  we  are 
 
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[4:01:42  PM]  Archery  2000:  indeed 
 
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[4:01:45  PM]  ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ:  so  what  happened  a  while  ago 
 
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[4:01:56  PM]  Kidpichu:  are  you  well? 
 
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[4:02:11  PM]  eve  sim:  Hi,  sorry  I  killed  you 
 
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[4:02:13  PM]  Wolfcat:  Are  you  dead? 
 
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[4:02:29  PM]  Skype:  do  you  like  yugioh? 
 
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[4:02:54  PM]  ***  Skype  gives  helper  premium  *** 
 
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<span class="vip">[4:03:09  PM]  Helper:  Sadly,  I  am  no  longer  a  messanger.</span>
 
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[4:03:12  PM]  ***  Skype  premium  ***
 
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[4:03:23  PM  |  Edited  4:03:29  PM]  ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ:  did  you  lose  your  hat?
 
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[4:03:23  PM]  Grey:  I  actually  haven't  met  you  before  Helper.  So  I  can  be  excited  if  I  want. 
 
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[4:03:33  PM]  Archery  2000:  did  you  lose  your  hat? 
 
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[4:03:56  PM]  Kidpichu:  why? 
 
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<span class="vip">[4:04:30  PM]  Helper:  Yes,  I  have  lost  an  important  part  of  my  person,  adventurer.</span>
 
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[4:04:35  PM]  ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ:  Aww,  that  sucks 
 
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[4:04:35  PM]  Le  lune  'Jayckup':  helper,  Im  happy  that  you  are  alive.
 
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[4:04:44  PM]  Le  lune  'Jayckup':  Can  we  get  it  back? 
 
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<span class="vip">[4:04:49  PM]  Helper:  I  do  not  feel  alive.</span>
 
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[4:04:54  PM]  Helix  236:  can  we  help  you  get  it  back? 
 
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[4:05:00  PM]  Archery  2000:  can  we  help  you? 
 
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<span class="vip">[4:05:10  PM]  Helper:  I  do  not  have  a  person  any  longer.</span>
 
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[4:05:18  PM]  Le  lune  'Jayckup':  How  do  you  mean?
 
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[4:05:21  PM]  ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ:  Were  you  ascended? 
 
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[4:05:24  PM]  Skype: <nowiki>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVTXPUF4Oz4 </nowiki>
 
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[4:05:27  PM]  Le  lune  'Jayckup':  Ill  give  you  a  person. 
 
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[4:05:29  PM]  Archery  2000:  who  was  your  person? 
 
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[4:05:29  PM]  Kidpichu:  D: 
 
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[4:05:38  PM]  Wolfcat:  Such  as  in masks.txt I'm  guessing 
 
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[4:05:41  PM]  eve  sim:  Again,  I'm  sorry. 
 
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<span class="vip">[4:05:52  PM]  Helper:  I  am  without  a  body.  A  most  peculiar  predicament.</span>
 
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[4:06:11  PM]  Grey:  Must  be  hard  to  chat  on  skype  from  the  spirit  world. 
 
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<span class="vip">[4:06:45  PM]  Helper:  I  do  not  know  what  has  happened  to  me.</span>
 
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[4:06:46  PM]  Archery  2000:  what  is  the  last  thing  you  recall  from  when  you  have  your  body?
 
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[4:06:47  PM]  Wolfcat:  Who  sent  you  to  the  shadow  realm?  [4:06:50  PM]  Archery  2000:  ah  I  see 
 
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[4:07:15  PM]  eve  sim:  Can  we  help  you  somehow? 
 
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[4:07:36  PM]  Helix  236:  did  something  happen  when  you  sleep? 
 
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[4:07:43  PM]  Archery  2000:  is  there  anything  you  can  recall  that  might  help  us  aid  you? 
 
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<span class="vip">[4:07:52  PM]  Helper:  I  do  not  remember  much  past  yesterday.</span>
 
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[4:07:59  PM]  ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ:  I'm  sorry  D; 
 
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[4:08:03  PM]  Archery  2000:  what  was  the  last  thing  you  were  doing? 
 
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[4:08:05  PM]  Le  lune  'Jayckup':  Do  you  remember  your  name? 
 
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<span class="vip">[4:09:21  PM]  Helper:  Skype?</span>
 
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[4:09:32  PM]  ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ:  ? 
 
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[4:09:38  PM]  Le  lune  'Jayckup':  What  about  skype? 
 
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[4:09:39  PM]  Skype:  yes? 
 
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[4:09:50  PM]  ***  Skype  updates  *** 
 
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[4:09:54  PM]  Archery  2000:  lol 
 
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[4:09:56  PM]  ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ:  lol 
 
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[4:10:00  PM]  Captain  Desdinova:  lol 
 
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[4:10:00  PM]  Wolfcat:  I'm  guessing  you  don't  know  what  medium  you're  speaking  to  us  in 
 
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<span class="vip">[4:10:22  PM]  Helper:  What  is  skype?</span>
 
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[4:10:44  PM]  Skype: <nowiki>http://zeldawiki.org/images/thumb/7/7b/MM3D_Postman%27s_Hat.png/745px-MM3D_Postman%27s_Hat.png </nowiki>
 
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[4:10:52  PM]  Wolfcat:  It's  how  we  are  communicating  with  you,  no  big  deal. 
 
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<span class="vip">[4:10:58  PM]  Helper:  Your  questions  clog  my  ears,  adventurers.</span>
 
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[4:11:07  PM]  ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ:  Sorry  about  that 
 
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[4:11:19  PM]  Helix  236:  yeah  We're  sorry  T.T 
 
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[4:12:01  PM]  Archery  2000:  do  these  numbers  make  any  sense?
 
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[4:12:02  PM]  Archery  2000:  25  11  17  14
 
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[4:12:48  PM]  Archery  2000:  well,  I  was  looking  at  the  message  that  was  unsolved,  and  those  are  the  numbers  needed  to  make  sense  of  each  word  from  Caesar  shifting 
 
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<span class="vip">[4:13:14  PM]  Helper:  I  am  a  corporeal  spirit.  Not  a  mathematician.</span>
 
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[4:13:23  PM]  Archery  2000:  apologies 
 
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[4:13:53  PM]  eve  sim:  Helper,  how  can  we  help  you?
 
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[4:13:54  PM  |  Removed  4:14:52  PM]  Wolfcat:  This  message  has  been  removed. 
 
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[4:14:24  PM]  Kidpichu:  guys  one  at  a  time  XD 
 
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[4:16:49  PM]  Archery  2000:  helper,  are  you  still  there? 
 
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<span class="vip">[4:17:43  PM]  Helper:  I  do  not  imagine  you  will  be  able  to  help  me,  adventurers.</span>
 
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[4:17:54  PM]  ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ:  D; 
 
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[4:19:06  PM]  Grey:  Do  you  know  how  we  can  help  Mason? 
 
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<span class="vip">[4:20:17  PM]  Helper:  Mason  is  in  no  need  of  help  currently,  adventurer.  The  ones  in  need  of  help  are  yourselves.</span>
 
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[4:20:25  PM]  Archery  2000:  How  can  we  help  ourselves? 
 
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<span class="vip">[4:21:05  PM]  Helper:  By  helping  yourselves,  of  course!</span>
 
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[4:21:22  PM]  Grey:  There  is  logic  in  what  he  says. 
 
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[4:21:37  PM]  ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ:  What  is  it  we  need  help  with? 
 
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<span class="vip">[4:21:48  PM]  Helper:  Everything.</span>
 
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[4:21:52  PM]  Wolfcat:  Helper,  can  you  tell  us  what  all  you  remember  before  becoming  a  spirit?  If  anything  at  all. 
 
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[4:21:53  PM]  Captain  Desdinova:  I  love  you,  Helper
 
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−
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</div>
 
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<p>Over the next few days, oddities regarding Helper's previous accounts continued. The videos "<b>S</b>" and "<b>R</b>" were uploaded on <span class="storydate">March 11th, 2015</span> and <span class="storydate">March 12th, 2015</span> respectively.</p>
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<p>"M" claims that Doug's been kidnapped by the cult. He fears that Doug is in some sort of danger and isn't sure what to do.</p>
  
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<div class="videoblock">
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<div class="storyconvo">
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<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>Eve</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/4/4d/WHeve.png"></div><p>How can we help you?</p></div>
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<div class="pov1b"><div class="talker"><b>"M"</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/e/e0/Msmall.png"></div><p>That's for you to tell me.</p></div>
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<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>Player</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/7/71/Bloganon.png"></div><p>Who took him? Do you have any idea where? Also, who are you?</p></div>
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<div class="pov1b"><div class="talker"><b>"M"</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/e/e0/Msmall.png"></div><p>Our group. The fishery. Mason.</p></div>
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<p>"M" reveals that he's actually <b>Mason</b> - Doug's friend who handles the cult's recruitment process. Mason is the same individual who invited Doug into the cult and oversaw Jacob's initiation.</p>
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<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>Player</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/7/71/Bloganon.png"></div><p>Do you have any other information in regard to Doug getting taken? I want to help in any way I can. Does Vincent have anything to do with this? Do you know who that is?</p></div>
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Mason</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/e/e0/Msmall.png"></div><p>Some members took him to a secluded area, and I haven't seen from him. I checked his blog, and saw "help". That's why I know something's up.</p></div>
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<div class="pov1e"><p>We don't have anyone who is named Vincent, as far as I know. That's a good name, though.</p></div>
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 +
<p>Strangely, Mason claims he doesn't know of anyone named <b>Vincent</b> within the cult. This implies that Vincent likely joined the cult at some point after <b>2009</b>.</p>
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<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>Eve</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/4/4d/WHeve.png"></div><p>Can you go to the fishery? Record what happens and everything you see and hear, in case we need to go to the authorities.</p></div>
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<div class="pov1b"><div class="talker"><b>Mason</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/e/e0/Msmall.png"></div><p>I can try, though I'm worried they won't like me getting close.</p></div>
 
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<p>The players suggest that Mason travels to the Fishery in the hopes of finding out exactly what happened to Doug. However, they realized that Mason might need some extra help. This entire conversation is archived below:</p>
  
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<div class="mw-collapsible-content"><poem>This video simply consists of dark footage of someone walking down a snowy sidewalk at night.
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They took Doug, which I didn't expect. They need him for something, but they won't tell me. And I need your help, because he's in obvious danger. I don't know what to do.</span>
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8:31 PM Wickedlady4180: "How can we help you?"
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<span class="vip">8:32 PM DandP: "That's for you to tell me."</span>
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8:39 PM Anonymous: "Who took him? Do you have any idea where? Also, who are you?"
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<span class="vip">8:42 PM DandP: "Our group. The fishery. Mason."</span>
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8:44 PM ADU: "Do you have any idea why they would have taken Doug?"
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<span class="vip">8:45 PM DandP: ""They took Doug, which I didn't expect. They need him for something, but they won't tell me."?"</span>
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8:45 PM ADU: "oh yeah... I dont notice things ._."
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8:51 PM Anonymous: "Do you have any other information in regard to Doug getting taken? I want to help in any way I can. Does Vincent have anything to do with this? Do you know who that is?"
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<span class="vip">8:53 PM DandP: "Some members took him to a secluded area, and I haven't seen from him. I checked his blog, and saw "help". That's why I know something's up. We don't have anyone who is named Vincent, as far as I know. That's a good name, though."</span>
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8:53 PM Wickedlady4180: "Can you go to the fishery? Record what happens and everything you see and hear, in case we need to go to the authorities."
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<span class="vip">9:15 PM DandP: "I can try, though I'm worried they won't like me getting close."</span></poem>
 
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<div class="mw-collapsible-content"><poem>This video begins with dark footage of someone walking along a sidewalk at night. There's snow on the ground and the path is covered in ice. The video cuts to footage of the neighborhood. The sky has a reddish glow due to distant city lights. The video is suddenly interrupted by loud static before cutting back to the sidewalk. The cameraman is now running. The static briefly returns as the cameraman turns around. The cameraman comes to a stop as a shadowy entity can be seen in the distance. Two glowing eyes then appear on the figure as the video cuts to black. A deep voice can be heard before the video ends.
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|post = <poem>Do you have need of assistance, adventurer?</poem>
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<p>The players theorized that these videos were being recorded from Mason's perspective since he was the one who currently possessed Helper's Hat. Believing that Mason might be in danger, the player Stevey submitted the "<b>Song of Soaring</b>" - a song from Majora's Mask that would teleport the player to various Owl Statues found in-game.</p>
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<p>Using The Ocarina, the players managed to summon <b>Helper</b> - the entity that previously delivered them Doug's mail and Psychology notes.</p>
  
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<p>In the meantime, on <span class="storydate">March 13th, 2015</span>, YSHDT.com underwent several changes that were seemingly related to Doug. The front page now featured an image of Deku Link's eyes titled "<b>eyes.bmp</b>" and text that read "<span class="canquote">It's lonely out here</span>". This page also featured audio of someone struggling to breathe. Due to Doug's connection with Deku Link, this had some worrying connotations. Strangely, an orange-colored snowy environment could also be found within "eyes.bmp" via steganography. The significance of this location was unknown, however.</p>
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<p>Players discovered that "/news" had also updated. The page now featured "<b>spire.jpg</b>" - a photo of a large, imposing building covered in fog. Accompanying this image was the audio "<b>mumble.wav</b>", which contained a strange robotic voice slowly reading out the following:</p>
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<div class="storyscript"><poem>Mason, you are a bane on my existence now. In the past, you were an ally. In the future, you are my foe. You’ve done great things for us, and also terrible things. It’s time to hunt you down and finish what I started in 2009.</poem></div>
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<p>This threatening message seemed to be from a modern-day Doug from 2015 - one who was now fully devoted to Luna and intent on taking down both Mason and the players, as hinted at in "notes.png". The rest of YSHDT.com wasn't any less concerning, with "/them" being updated with "<b>knownlocations.jpg</b>", revealing the locations of several prominent players. The page "/no" also updated, now featuring many screaming faces. A new page titled "<span class="urls"><nowiki>https://yshdt.com/</nowiki><b>yes</b></span>" was also discovered, which featured the iconic red dot, though it was now much larger in size.</p>
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File:Spire.jpg|The large, imposing building.
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|post = <poem>We need to help Douglas, how can we?</poem>
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|post = <poem>I'm not particularly sure. Has he lost his mail?</poem>
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|post = <poem><span style="color:#090;">No, he seems to have gone missing. He may have lost his mail as well though.</span></poem>
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|group = Canon Characters
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|count = 612
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|joined = February 23, 2015
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|post = <poem>Ooh, that's droll. I may be able to find him, which will take me a fair bit.
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|post = <poem>hey dude
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|post = <poem><div class="WHspoiler">Helper <span style="float:right;">Mar 8 2015, 02:35 AM</span></div><div class="WHspoilertext"><div class="WHspoiler">Wolfcat <span style="float:right;">Mar 8 2015, 02:32 AM</span></div><div class="WHspoilertext">Thank you for all your help, Helper.
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<div class="pov1b"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>Hello adventurers!</p></div>
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<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>ADULT_LINK</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/7/78/WHal.gif"></div><p>Hi helper! :D</p></div>
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|user = Stevean2
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<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>Wolfcat</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/2/28/Wolfcat.png"></div><p>Hello!</p></div>
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<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>Archery 2000</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/3/3b/Archery2000.png"></div><p>hi!</p></div>
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<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>CircleHunter</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/a/a8/WHcircle.png"></div><p>Hey!</p></div>
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<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>Helix 236</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/5/58/Anony.png"></div><p>hi</p></div>
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<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>Jacob</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/8/8b/Jacobicon.png"></div><p>Helper!</p></div>
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<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>Kidpichu</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/c/c1/WHpichu.gif"></div><p>oh hello ^-^</p></div>
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>You seem to be excited to meet me.</p></div>
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<div class="pov1e"><p>Again.</p></div>
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 +
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<div class="pov1b"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>Sadly, I am no longer a messanger.</p></div>
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<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>ADULT_LINK</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/7/78/WHal.gif"></div><p>did you lose your hat?</p></div>
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<div class="pov1b"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>Yes, I have lost an important part of my person, adventurer.</p></div>
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<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>Jacob</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/8/8b/Jacobicon.png"></div><p>helper, Im happy that you are alive.</p></div>
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>I do not feel alive.</p></div>
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<div class="pov1a"><p>I do not have a person any longer.</p></div>
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<div class="pov1e"><p>I am without a body. A most peculiar predicament.</p></div>
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 +
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<p>Though Helper has been "revived", he now seems to be missing his hat - presumably the same <b>Postman's Hat</b> seen laying in the pool of blood that was now in Mason's possession. The hat seems very important to Helper - so much so that he refers to it as a part of his very being. He also claims that he currently lacks a body, possibly existing solely as a disembodied spirit.</p>
  
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don't be shy!
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<p>Helper also claims that he's no longer a "<span class="canquote">Messenger</span>" - likely due to the loss of his hat. Because of this, players theorized that there was a direct connection between Helper's Hat and his various accounts - including the "M", or "Messenger" YouTube channel, meaning whoever possesses Helper's Hat holds control over these accounts.</p>
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<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>GreyouTT</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/2/29/GreyouTT.png"></div><p>Must be hard to chat on skype from the spirit world.</p></div>
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|user = Rafal
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>Skype?</p></div>
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<div class="pov1a"><p>What is skype?</p></div>
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|group = Players
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<div class="pov1e"><p>Your questions clog my ears, adventurers.</p></div>
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<p>Strangely, Helper seems to be unaware of what Skype is despite the fact that he's using it to speak with the players. This, combined with the fact that Helper seems to be hearing the players' messages audibly, implies that Helper perceives digital communication as though it were happening in-person - likely due to his status as an otherworldly ethereal being. A full archive of this conversation can be found below:</p>
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If you decline to show, perhaps you could still do us the honor of telling us something.</poem>
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[4:00:35  PM]  ***  Kidpichu  is  confused  *** 
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[4:00:36  PM]  ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ:  helper? 
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|postnum = 385
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[4:00:37  PM]  Wolfcat:  We  should  Mass  Debate  together  over  this  issue 
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|post = <poem>patrem i bet yr cute</poem>
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[4:00:37  PM]  Archery  2000:  o.m.g. 
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[4:00:48  PM]  Archery  2000:  they  really  are  listening  to  the  chat 
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<span class="vip">[4:00:57  PM]  Helper:  Hello  adventurers!</span>
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|user = <span style="color:#82005d !important;">/Patrem\</span>
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[4:00:58  PM]  ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ:  Hi  helper!  :D 
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[4:01:00  PM]  Wolfcat:  Hello! 
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|group = Characters
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[4:01:01  PM]  Archery  2000:  hi! 
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|count = 609
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[4:01:03  PM]  Captain  Desdinova:  Hey! 
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|joined = February 19, 2015
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[4:01:04  PM]  Kidpichu:  XD 
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|posted = Mar 15 2015, 09:40 PM
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[4:01:09  PM]  Helix  236:  hi 
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|postnum = 387
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[4:01:10  PM]  ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ:  so  what  happened? 
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|post = <poem>You have all amused me greatly. So despite requesting in such a childish manner, I may grant you the privilege
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[4:01:12  PM]  Le  lune  'Jayckup':  Helper! 
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of a glimpse at my current form. However, this may take time, as capturing and sending a depiction of it from
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[4:01:14  PM]  Archery  2000:  who  is the postman?
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where I currently dwell is a task of great complexity. Just as the method in which I dwell is that of complexity, and often is the cause of disrepair in electrical devices.
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[4:01:14  PM]  Kidpichu:  oh  hello  ^-^ 
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<span class="vip">[4:01:24  PM]  Helper:  You  seem  to  be  excited  to  meet  me.</span>
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All this aside, is there anything you request at this time children, or shall I return to my work?</poem>
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[4:01:25  PM]  Grey:  What  was  that  pixie  picture  I  don't  even 
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[4:01:32  PM]  Archery  2000:  yes  we  are 
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<span class="vip">[4:01:33  PM]  Helper:  Again.</span>
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[4:01:33  PM]  ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ:  Indeed  we  are 
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[4:01:42  PM]  Archery  2000:  indeed 
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[4:01:45  PM]  ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ:  so  what  happened  a  while  ago 
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<p>The players ask Patrem for a selfie. Surprisingly, he obliges - though he claims it will take some time as his current form and location corrupt electronic devices. In the meantime, he offers to answer some of the players' questions.</p>
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[4:01:56  PM]  Kidpichu:  are  you  well? 
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[4:02:11 PM]  eve  sim:  Hi, sorry  I  killed  you 
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[4:02:13  PM]  Wolfcat:  Are  you  dead? 
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<div class="WHpost">
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[4:02:29  PM]  Skype:  do  you  like  yugioh? 
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[4:02:54  PM]  ***  Skype  gives  helper  premium  *** 
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<span class="vip">[4:03:09  PM]  Helper:  Sadly, I am  no  longer  a  messanger.</span>
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|user = archery2000
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[4:03:12  PM]  ***  Skype  premium  ***
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|image = WHarchery.png
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[4:03:23  PM  | Edited  4:03:29  PM]  ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ:  did  you  lose  your  hat?
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|group = Players
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[4:03:23  PM]  Grey:  I  actually  haven't  met  you  before  Helper.  So  I  can  be  excited  if  I  want.
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[4:03:33  PM]  Archery  2000:  did  you  lose  your  hat? 
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|joined = August 11, 2012
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[4:03:56  PM]  Kidpichu:  why? 
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|posted = Mar 15 2015, 09:45 PM
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<span class="vip">[4:04:30  PM]  Helper:  Yes,  I  have  lost  an  important  part  of my  person, adventurer.</span>
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|postnum = 388
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[4:04:35  PM]  ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ:  Aww,  that  sucks 
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|post = <poem>Hey Patrem,
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[4:04:35  PM]  Le  lune  'Jayckup':  helper,  Im  happy  that  you  are  alive.
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[4:04:44  PM]  Le  lune  'Jayckup':  Can  we  get  it  back? 
−
Why do you keep ignoring my PMs? Am I asking the wrong questions?</poem>
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<span class="vip">[4:04:49  PM]  Helper:  I  do not  feel  alive.</span>
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[4:04:54  PM]  Helix  236:  can  we  help  you  get  it  back? 
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[4:05:00  PM]  Archery  2000:  can  we  help  you? 
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|user = Stevean2
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<span class="vip">[4:05:10  PM]  Helper:  I  do  not  have  a  person  any  longer.</span>
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|image = Stevey.png
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[4:05:18  PM]  Le  lune  'Jayckup':  How  do  you  mean?
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|group = Players
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[4:05:21  PM]  ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ:  Were  you  ascended? 
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|count = 605
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[4:05:24  PM]  Skype: <nowiki>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVTXPUF4Oz4 </nowiki>
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|joined = February 18, 2015
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[4:05:27  PM]  Le  lune  'Jayckup':  Ill  give  you  a  person.
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|posted = Mar 15 2015, 09:51 PM
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[4:05:29  PM]  Archery  2000:  who  was  your person? 
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|postnum = 389
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[4:05:29  PM]  Kidpichu:  D: 
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|post = <poem>On what we believe is Helper's channel "M" on Youtube.. there was a shadow at the end of his latest video, do you know what it is?</poem>
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[4:05:38  PM]  Wolfcat:  Such  as in masks.txt I'm  guessing 
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[4:05:41  PM]  eve  sim:  Again,  I'm  sorry.
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<span class="vip">[4:05:52  PM]  Helper:  I  am  without  a  body. A  most  peculiar  predicament.</span>
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|user = archery2000
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[4:06:11  PM]  Grey:  Must  be  hard  to  chat  on  skype  from  the  spirit  world. 
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|image = WHarchery.png
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<span class="vip">[4:06:45  PM]  Helper:  I  do  not  know  what  has  happened  to  me.</span>
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|group = Players
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[4:06:46  PM]  Archery  2000:  what  is  the  last  thing  you  recall  from  when  you  have  your  body?
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|count = 51
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[4:06:47  PM]  Wolfcat:  Who  sent  you  to  the  shadow  realm?  [4:06:50  PM]  Archery  2000:  ah  I  see 
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|joined = August 11, 2012
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[4:07:15  PM]  eve  sim:  Can  we  help  you  somehow? 
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|posted = Mar 15 2015, 09:59 PM
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[4:07:36  PM]  Helix  236:  did  something  happen  when  you  sleep? 
−
|postnum = 390
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[4:07:43  PM]  Archery  2000:  is  there  anything  you  can  recall  that  might  help  us  aid  you? 
−
|post = <poem>Also, what are demons and how do you become one? Can you stop being one?</poem>
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<span class="vip">[4:07:52  PM]  Helper:  I  do  not  remember  much  past  yesterday.</span>
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+
[4:07:59  PM]  ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ:  I'm  sorry  D; 
−
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[4:08:03  PM]  Archery  2000:  what  was  the  last  thing  you  were  doing? 
−
<br style="clear:both;" />
+
[4:08:05  PM]  Le  lune  'Jayckup':  Do  you  remember  your  name? 
−
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+
<span class="vip">[4:09:21  PM]  Helper:  Skype?</span>
−
 
+
[4:09:32  PM]  ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ:  ? 
−
<p>The players ask Patrem why he's been ignoring their PM's. They also ask him about the shadowy figure seen at the end of the video "R". Expecting Patrem to respond in his usual condescending way, the player Stevey begins mocking him in the Internet Detectives Skype group, writing up the following mock response: "<i>Shadow's come in many forms child. Maybe your primative eyes misinterpreted unimiportant information as something of siginificance.</i>". Shortly after this, however...</p>
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[4:09:38  PM]  Le  lune  'Jayckup':  What  about  skype? 
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+
[4:09:39  PM]  Skype:  yes? 
−
<div class="storyWHholder">
+
[4:09:50  PM]  ***  Skype  updates  *** 
−
<div class="WHpost">
+
[4:09:54  PM]  Archery  2000:  lol 
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+
[4:09:56  PM]  ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ:  lol 
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{{WHEntry
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[4:10:00  PM]  Captain  Desdinova:  lol 
−
|user = <span style="color:#82005d !important;">/Patrem\</span>
+
[4:10:00  PM]  Wolfcat:  I'm  guessing  you  don't  know  what  medium  you're  speaking  to  us  in 
−
|image = WHpatrem.png
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<span class="vip">[4:10:22  PM]  Helper:  What  is  skype?</span>
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|group = Characters
+
[4:10:44  PM]  Skype: <nowiki>http://zeldawiki.org/images/thumb/7/7b/MM3D_Postman%27s_Hat.png/745px-MM3D_Postman%27s_Hat.png </nowiki>
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|count = 609
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[4:10:52  PM]  Wolfcat:  It's how  we  are  communicating  with  you,  no  big  deal.
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|joined = February 19, 2015
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<span class="vip">[4:10:58  PM]  Helper:  Your  questions  clog  my  ears, adventurers.</span>
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|posted = Mar 15 2015, 10:03 PM
+
[4:11:07  PM]  ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ:  Sorry  about  that
−
|postnum = 391
+
[4:11:19  PM]  Helix  236:  yeah  We're  sorry  T.T 
−
|post = <poem>Shadow's come in many forms child. Maybe your primative eyes misinterpreted unimiportant information as something of siginificance.
+
[4:12:01  PM]  Archery  2000:  do these  numbers  make  any  sense?
−
 
+
[4:12:02  PM]  Archery  2000:  25  11  17  14
−
Also chide me not should I be sans response of your tedious masked requests, I give each deep observation prior to action.
+
[4:12:48  PM]  Archery  2000:  well,  I was  looking  at  the  message  that  was  unsolved,  and  those  are  the  numbers  needed  to  make  sense  of  each  word  from  Caesar  shifting 
−
However those that needn't require said observation to begin with often do not warrant my attention for I am
+
<span class="vip">[4:13:14  PM]  Helper:  I am  a  corporeal  spirit.  Not  a  mathematician.</span>
−
quite busy and time truly is finite, even for one such as I.</poem>
+
[4:13:23  PM]  Archery  2000:  apologies 
−
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+
[4:13:53  PM]  eve  sim:  Helper,  how  can  we  help  you?
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[4:13:54  PM  | Removed  4:14:52  PM]  Wolfcat:  This  message  has  been  removed.
−
|user = Stevean2
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[4:14:24  PM]  Kidpichu:  guys  one  at  a  time  XD 
−
|image = Stevey.png
+
[4:16:49  PM]  Archery  2000:  helper,  are  you  still  there? 
−
|group = Players
+
<span class="vip">[4:17:43  PM]  Helper:  I  do  not  imagine  you  will  be  able  to  help  me, adventurers.</span>
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|count = 605
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[4:17:54  PM]  ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ:  D; 
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|joined = February 18, 2015
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[4:19:06  PM]  Grey:  Do  you  know  how  we  can  help  Mason? 
−
|posted = Mar 15 2015, 10:07 PM
+
<span class="vip">[4:20:17  PM]  Helper:  Mason  is  in  no  need  of  help  currently,  adventurer.  The  ones  in  need  of  help  are  yourselves.</span>
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|postnum = 392
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[4:20:25  PM]  Archery  2000:  How  can  we  help  ourselves? 
−
|post = <poem><div class="WHspoiler">/Patrem\ <span style="float:right;">Mar 15 2015, 10:03 PM</span></div><div class="WHspoilertext">Shadow's come in many forms child. Maybe your primative eyes misinterpreted unimiportant information as something of siginificance.
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<span class="vip">[4:21:05  PM]  Helper:  By  helping  yourselves,  of  course!</span>
 +
[4:21:22  PM]  Grey:  There  is  logic  in  what  he  says. 
 +
[4:21:37  PM]  ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ:  What  is  it  we  need  help  with? 
 +
<span class="vip">[4:21:48  PM]  Helper:  Everything.</span>
 +
[4:21:52  PM]  Wolfcat:  Helper,  can  you  tell  us  what  all  you  remember  before  becoming  a  spirit?  If  anything  at  all. 
 +
[4:21:53  PM]  Captain  Desdinova:  I  love  you,  Helper
 +
</poem>
 +
</div>
 
</div>
 
</div>
−
I said this as a joke to my friends in our chat a few moments ago...
 
−
... how did you...?</poem>
 
−
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−
|user = GreyouTT
 
−
|image = GreyouTT.png
 
−
|group = Players
 
−
|count = 27
 
−
|joined = August 10, 2012
 
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|posted = Mar 15 2015, 10:12 PM
 
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|postnum = 393
 
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|post = <poem>What is the group attempting to do at the Fishery? What exactly do they plan to do with Doug?</poem>
 
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{{WHEntry
 
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|user = Oceanstuck
 
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|image = WHocean.png
 
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|group = Players
 
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|count = 595
 
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|joined = February 3, 2015
 
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|posted = Mar 15 2015, 10:13 PM
 
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|postnum = 394
 
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|post = <poem>im here guys. hello
 
  
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ok i have a quick question. what are the defining characteristics of a demon? shits come up a bit in a few conversations and i think we should probably get that sorted out</poem>
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<p>Over the next few days, oddities regarding Helper's previous accounts continued. The videos "<b>S</b>" and "<b>R</b>" were uploaded on <span class="storydate">March 11th, 2015</span> and <span class="storydate">March 12th, 2015</span> respectively.</p>
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<div class="videoblock">
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|user = <span style="color:#82005d !important;">/Patrem\</span>
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<p style="width: 60%;"><youtube>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsL5VsBQJPg</youtube></p>
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|image = WHpatrem.png
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<div class="viddetails">
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|group = Characters
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<p class="vidddescheader">Description</p>
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|count = 609
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<p class="vidddesccont" style="text-align: center; font-size: 18px; opacity: 0.3;">N/A</p>
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|joined = February 19, 2015
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<p class="viddtagsheader">Tags</p>
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|posted = Mar 15 2015, 10:48 PM
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<p class="viddtagscont" style="text-align: center; font-size: 18px; opacity: 0.3;">N/A</p>
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|postnum = 395
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</div>
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|post = <poem><div class="WHspoiler">Quote: </div><div class="WHspoilertext">I said this as a joke to my friends in our chat a few moments ago...
 
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... how did you...?</div>
 
  
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I am always watching you brats, for it is unwise to leave children unattended.
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<div class="vidtranscript">
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<div class="transcriptsum mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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As for the place of worship, my children are simply attempting to better themselves for the coming times.
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<p style="display:inline;">
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As for douglas, I have stated before what shall become of him is unchangeable as I have spoken previously and
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<b>
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I have no reason to speak of what is currently happening to him, so I shall not.
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<div class="WHspoiler">Quote: </div><div class="WHspoilertext">ok i have a quick question. what are the defining characteristics of a demon? shits come up a bit in a few conversations and i think we should probably get that sorted out</div>
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<div class="mw-collapsible-content"><poem>This video simply consists of dark footage of someone walking down a snowy sidewalk at night.
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I know nothing of these "Demons" of which you speak. Why must you pry me of such foolish imaginings, what next? Shall you beseech me of the monsters beneath the place in which you rest?
 
 
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<div class="summary">
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<p class="fauxheader">Summary</p>
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<div class="fadediv"></div>
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This video simply featured someone walking down a dark, snowy sidewalk.
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<p>Patrem responds using the exact same mock phrase posted by the player Stevey, revealing that he is capable of observing the players' private conversations on different websites. He also explains that he has not answered many of the players' PM's because he views them as weak attempts to squeeze more information out of him. In regards to the players' other questions, Patrem's unwilling to divulge any more information about Doug. He also claims to not know anything about the "demons" mentioned by Helper and he chides the players for asking about such foolish things.</p>
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<div class="videoblock">
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<p style="width: 60%;"><youtube>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r4PMimSF7s</youtube></p>
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<p>Back in the Internet Detectives Skype group, the players begin concocting a plan to capture Patrem using their Ocarina powers, writing the following: "<i>Since Patrem is the leader of the cult we should capture him</i>". Just like before, Patrem witnesses this message and responds on Within Hubris:</p>
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<div class="viddetails">
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<div class="storyWHholder">
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|user = <span style="color:#82005d !important;">/Patrem\</span>
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<div class="transcriptsum mw-collapsible mw-collapsed">
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|image = WHpatrem.png
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<p style="display:inline;">
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|group = Characters
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<b>
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|count = 609
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|joined = February 19, 2015
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|posted = Mar 15 2015, 11:35 PM
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|postnum = 397
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<div class="mw-collapsible-content"><poem>This video begins with dark footage of someone walking along a sidewalk at night. There's snow on the ground and the path is covered in ice. The video cuts to footage of the neighborhood. The sky has a reddish glow due to distant city lights. The video is suddenly interrupted by loud static before cutting back to the sidewalk. The cameraman is now running. The static briefly returns as the cameraman turns around. The cameraman comes to a stop as a shadowy entity can be seen in the distance. Two glowing eyes then appear on the figure as the video cuts to black. A deep voice can be heard before the video ends.
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|post = <poem><div class="WHspoiler">Quote: </div><div class="WHspoilertext">Since Patrem is the leader of the cult
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we should capture him</div>
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</div>
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 +
<div class="summary">
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<p class="fauxheader">Summary</p>
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<div class="fadediv"></div>
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 +
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This video seems to be a continuation of "S".
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</li>
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The person walking down the snowy sidewalk panics and begins running before encountering a shadowy figure with glowing eyes.
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I would be delighted if you would speak more of these grandiose propositions. Please, if you honestly believe
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<p>The players theorized that these videos were being recorded from Mason's perspective since he was the one who currently possessed Helper's Hat. Believing that Mason might be in danger, the player Stevey submitted the "<b>Song of Soaring</b>" - a song from Majora's Mask that would teleport the player to various Owl Statues found in-game.</p>
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you carry knowledge not of my own understanding, do enlightened me. For surely you and your fellow "Detectives"
 
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are supremely powerful beings that I should not trifle with.
 
  
 +
<p>In the meantime, on <span class="storydate">March 13th, 2015</span>, YSHDT.com underwent several changes that were seemingly related to Doug. The front page now featured an image of Deku Link's eyes titled "<b>eyes.bmp</b>" and text that read "<span class="canquote">It's lonely out here</span>". This page also featured audio of someone struggling to breathe. Due to Doug's connection with Deku Link, this had some worrying connotations. Strangely, an orange-colored snowy environment could also be found within "eyes.bmp" via steganography. The significance of this location was unknown, however.</p>
  
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<p>Players discovered that "/news" had also updated. The page now featured "<b>spire.jpg</b>" - a photo of a large, imposing building covered in fog. Accompanying this image was the audio "<b>mumble.wav</b>", which contained a strange robotic voice slowly reading out the following:</p>
  
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uggc://ibpnebb.pbz/v/f0FHLqCjLMXO
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<div class="storyscript"><poem>Mason, you are a bane on my existence now. In the past, you were an ally. In the future, you are my foe. You’ve done great things for us, and also terrible things. It’s time to hunt you down and finish what I started in 2009.</poem></div>
  
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<div class="WHsolved"><b>Solved:</b> <nowiki>http://vocaroo.com/i/s0SUYdPwYZKB</nowiki></div>
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<p>This threatening message seemed to be from a modern-day Doug from 2015 - one who was now fully devoted to Luna and intent on taking down both Mason and the players, as hinted at in "notes.png". The rest of YSHDT.com wasn't any less concerning, with "/them" being updated with "<b>knownlocations.jpg</b>", revealing the locations of several prominent players. The page "/no" also updated, now featuring many screaming faces. A new page titled "<span class="urls"><nowiki>https://yshdt.com/</nowiki><b>yes</b></span>" was also discovered, which featured the iconic red dot, though it was now much larger in size.</p>
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|group = Players
 
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|count = 27
 
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|joined = August 10, 2012
 
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|posted = Mar 16 2015, 12:08 AM
 
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|postnum = 402
 
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|post = <poem>Good to know higher beings are still capable of sarcasm.
 
  
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But since you asked, I'll tell you: We may not be powerful beings, but you should never count us out. We have a power of our own.</poem>
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File:Spire.jpg|The large, imposing building.
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File:Orange.jpg|The snowy orange-tinted location.
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|user = <span style="color:#82005d !important;">/Patrem\</span>
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File:Eyes.png|Deku Link's bloodshot eyes.
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|image = WHpatrem.png
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File:Knownlocations.jpg|The known locations of several players.
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|group = Characters
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File:No.jpg|Screaming faces found on YSHDT.com.
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|count = 609
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File:Red.png|Fred, the beloved red dot - now larger than ever.
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|joined = February 19, 2015
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|posted = Mar 16 2015, 12:29 AM
 
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|postnum = 403
 
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|post = <poem><div class="WHspoiler">Quote: </div><div class="WHspoilertext">We have a power of our own.</div>
 
  
−
Then try and wield this power child, see what it gets you in return. If you have some plan to "catch" me,
+
<p>Suspicious that something may be hidden within "eyes.bmp", the player GreyouTT submitted the "<b>Lens of Truth</b>" - An item from Majora's Mask that reveals hidden secrets. Shortly after this, Helper's former account responded by posting a clearer version of the image on Within Hubris - one that held hidden images in its eyes. The left eye now hid an image of "<b>The Gray Man</b>" - a character originating from the game "LSD: Dream Emulator" that the player <b>CircleHunter</b> often used as his avatar. The right eye hid text that read "<span class="canquote">Azure Rebirth</span>", which was the name of an old project that the player <b>Mugen Kagemaru</b> was involved in.</p>
−
I would be most pleased to see you execute it.
+
 
−
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+
<p>The players were confused as to why two of their allies were being called out. Hoping to find some answers, the player Mugen Kagemaru directly PM'd Helper asking about the "Azure Rebirth" reference. Meanwhile, the others attempted to summon Patrem by having the player ADULT_LINK submit the "<b>New Wave Bossa Nova</b>" on <span class="storydate">March 14th, 2015</span>. In the meantime, Helper once again began chatting with the players via Skype.</p>
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|post = <poem>Tempting, but I think we'll save that for later.
 
  
−
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+
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 +
<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>I may have some information you might need during your future endeavors.</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov1e"><p>The one you call mason is still alive.</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>Archery 2000</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/3/3b/Archery2000.png"></div><p>is he in trouble?</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>Absolutely not.</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov1e"><p>He happens to be doing nothing.</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>Archery 2000</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/3/3b/Archery2000.png"></div><p>do you know how our friend Doug is?</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>Doug is, as far as I know, still in his prison.</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov1e"><p>The fishery.</p></div>
 +
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 +
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−
[[File:Stone_Mask.png]] [[File:Gibdo_Mask.png]]
+
<p>Helper claims that Mason is safe and presumably at home, much to the players' relief. Doug, however, is still in the same situation as before.</p>
  
−
<span class="edited">Edited by <b>GreyouTT</b>, Mar 16 2015, 01:22 AM.</span></poem>
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<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>Mugen Kagemaru</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/f/f7/Mugenavi1.png"></div><p>Helper did you get my message earlier?</p></div>
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>I have not gotten your message, adventurer.</p></div>
−
|user = <span style="color:#82005d !important;">/Patrem\</span>
+
<div class="pov1a"><p>For I am not in possession of my hat.</p></div>
−
|image = WHpatrem.png
+
<div class="pov1a"><p>I am no longer a messenger.</p></div>
−
|group = Characters
+
<div class="pov1e"><p>The one in possession of the hat can share messages.</p></div>
−
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<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>Mugen Kagemaru</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/f/f7/Mugenavi1.png"></div><p>I have sent messages, Helper. Messages addressed to you. Did you receive them?</p></div>
−
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>I do not understand your tongue.</p></div>
−
|posted = Mar 16 2015, 01:38 AM
+
<div class="pov1e"><p>I am no longer the messenger.</p></div>
−
|postnum = 409
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<div class="pov2"><div class="talker"><b>Mugen Kagemaru</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/f/f7/Mugenavi1.png"></div><p>They are not for you to pass along</p></div>
−
|post = <poem>[[File:Handsome.jpg]]
+
<div class="pov2e"><p>They are for you to peruse</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov1b"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>The messenger has gotten them. You are trying my patience, adventurer, I have explained such.</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>Mugen Kagemaru</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/f/f7/Mugenavi1.png"></div><p>It is my belief that I am not correctly wording my question. I am trying to correct this problem.</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>I understand your question, rude one. I am not an idiot.</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov1a"><p>The one who owns the hat is the messenger.</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov1e"><p>The messenger may relay messages across time and space.</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>Mugen Kagemaru</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/f/f7/Mugenavi1.png"></div><p>Um, let me try this. Uh, Helper? Did the Messenger give you any messages from me?</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>I have not gotten any messages, adventurer.</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov1a"><p>The messenger gets the messages. They relay the messages.</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov1a"><p>I have spoken such three times now.</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov1e"><p>It is the job of the messanger to do such things as giving you chances to relay. I am not he.</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>GreyouTT</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/2/29/GreyouTT.png"></div><p>We believe Mason has the hat</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov1b"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>Then he is the messenger.</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>Oceanstuck</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/c/c5/WHocean.png"></div><p>how do we gain contact with him</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>I do not know.</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov1e"><p>For I, once again, am not the messenger.</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>Spirkiroid</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/c/c2/Spirkiroid.gif"></div><p>what's the meaning of the image you posted in the thread?</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov1b"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>I have not given you any image.</p></div>
 +
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 +
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 +
 
 +
<p>Helper and the players have a somewhat confusing conversation regarding the mechanics of Helper's Hat. The player Mugen Kagemaru repeatedly asks Helper if he received his private message on Within Hubris. Helper explains that he no longer has access to his various accounts, only the "<b>Messenger</b>" does - the individual who currently possesses his hat. Interestingly, Helper also notes that Messengers are capable of sending messages across time and space.</p>
  
−
Do you think you have sort of control over me? Do you even understand the power you attempt to wield?
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<div class="storyconvo">
−
Look upon your foe, and kneel.</poem>
+
<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>Archery 2000</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/3/3b/Archery2000.png"></div><p>Helper, is there any meaning when you call us hero/heroes/heroine?</p></div>
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>Young archer, a rock will always be a rock, no matter what you happen to call it.</p></div>
−
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+
<div class="pov1a"><p>However, the demons seek to drive you off your course.</p></div>
−
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+
<div class="pov1e"><p>Be wary.</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>Archery 2000</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/3/3b/Archery2000.png"></div><p>are there still only two demons here?</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>I believe there are three now.</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov1e"><p>One more by the name of link.</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov2"><div class="talker"><b>ADULT_LINK</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/7/78/WHal.gif"></div><p>what</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov2e"><p>wait I am a demon?</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov1b"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>This is only my opinion on the subject.</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>Mando</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/3/3d/WHghost.png"></div><p>Can I get a list of all known demons</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>ADULT_LINK</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/7/78/WHal.gif"></div><p>Circle, Dawn, and i guess Me</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov1b"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>The potential demon speaks the truth.</p></div>
 
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 +
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−
<p>Patrem scoffs at the players and dares them to attempt their plan. Instead, the players submit the "<b>Stone Mask</b>" and the "<b>Gibdo Mask</b>" in an attempt to hide their private conversations from him. Unfortunately, this has no effect. In response, Patrem finally posts his selfie - though it seems to he heavily corrupted.</p>
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<p>Helper elaborates on why he calls some players "<b>demons</b>". He explains that demons are individuals who attempt to drive the players off course and presumably hinder their progression through the ARG. He also reveals that there are now three demons within the Internet Detectives - the players <b>CircleHunter</b>, <b>Dawn</b>, and <b>ADULT_LINK</b>. However, Helper admits that he labels individuals as demons solely based on his opinion, so this classification may not be as objective as players first believed.</p>
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|post = <poem>More Technical issues.. huh?</poem>
 
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Pigma Dengar? Is that you?</poem>
 
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|posted = Mar 16 2015, 03:39 AM
 
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|postnum = 413
 
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|post = <poem>My word, you're the only handsomest ethereal entity I have ever set my eyes on, what a lovely complexion you have!</poem>
 
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|user = <span style="color:#82005d !important;">/Patrem\</span>
 
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|joined = February 19, 2015
 
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|postnum = 414
 
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|post = <poem>My true intent was to show you the form I currently reside in. However the power radiated from my own presence,
 
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and the complexity of delivering such a thing to this place resulted in showing nothing more than my essence, and
 
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some scrambled remains. Pity, the sight of my form would have sent you all into quite a bit of turmoil.</poem>
 
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|post = <poem><div class="WHspoiler">/Patrem\ <span style="float:right;">Mar 16 2015, 03:50 AM</span></div><div class="WHspoilertext">My true intent was to show you the form I currently reside in. However the power radiated from my own presence,
 
−
and the complexity of delivering such a thing to this place resulted in showing nothing more than my essence, and
 
−
some scrambled remains. Pity, the sight of my form would have sent you all into quite a bit of turmoil.</div>
 
−
Is the face found in the bottom right corner a remnant of the original image?</poem>
 
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|postnum = 416
 
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|post = <poem>Yes child.</poem>
 
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−
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−
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−
 
 
−
<p>Patrem confirms the the face seen overlaying parts of the image are remnants of the original selfie before his essence corrupted the file. Interestingly, he notes that the appearance of his true face would cause the players a great deal of turmoil for some reason...</p>
 
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|posted = Mar 16 2015, 04:05 AM
 
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|postnum = 418
 
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|post = <poem><div class="WHspoiler">Quote: </div><div class="WHspoilertext">he seems calmer now than when we tried to discuss capturing him</div>
 
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I found it quite amusing, as it always is, but most certainly it is when you think you can use your toys on me.</poem>
 
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|post = <poem>I will answer but one final question, I have many things I must attend to and have no time for the incessant babbling of children.</poem>
 
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|post = <poem>How can we can contact Mason ourselves? If we are unable to, could you kindly put us in contact with him?</poem>
 
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|post = <poem>Mason is a foolish child, there is no need for you to contact him. However I shall tell you that he is currently within his own residence. There is more to know of him, but it shall surely come to you in time, you are not infants and I shan't spoon feed you.
 
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−
Now I shall depart, as this child shall soon awaken and I still have tasks to address.</poem>
 
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<p>Patrem informs the players that there is currently no need for them to contact Mason. He also claims that Mason is currently at home, implying that he's safe for the time being. He also claims that "<span class="canquote">this child</span>" shall soon awaken, though who exactly this is referring to is unknown. This full conversation is archived below:</p>
 
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−
Chat with Patrem
 
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<div class="mw-collapsible-content"><poem><span class="vip">/Patrem\ 9:35 PM: "I am in the midst of my work child, what is it that you must call on me in such a place?"</span>
 
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Spirkiroid 9:39 PM: "hey dude can we get a selfie"
 
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<span class="vip">/Patrem\ 9:44 PM: "Do you think you are worthy of my visage, child?"</span>
 
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Mugen Kagemaru 9:47 PM: "Hah. Ha ha, funny. Come now. Don't be shy. That's my girlfriend's department."
 
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Stevey 9:48 PM: "A majority of us have contributed to this avertion of chaos. Found multiple truths and therefore aided you in your work... so yes... or alternatively... don't be shy!"
 
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Rafal 9:53 PM: "And if you think us not worthy of your visage, you still have deemed us at least somewhat worthy of your time based upon your actions. If you decline to show, perhaps you could still do us the honor of telling us something."
 
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ihatesigningupforstufflikethis 10:00 PM: "patrem i bet yr cute"
 
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GreyouTT 10:01 PM: "WELL, WELL, WELL. You actually posted. Now that you're here, I think it's time we got some things out in the open. For example, you seem to be sticking to PMs quite a bit there my inter-dimensional friend. Why so secretive?"
 
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<span class="vip">/Patrem\ 10:40 PM: "You have all amused me greatly. So despite requesting in such a childish manner, I may grant you the privilege of a glimpse at my current form. However, this may take time, as capturing and sending a depiction of it from where I currently dwell is a task of great complexity. Just as the method in which I dwell is that of complexity, and often is the cause of disrepair in electrical devices. All this aside, is there anything you request at this time children, or shall I return to my work?"</span>
 
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Archery 10:45 PM: "Hey Patrem, Why do you keep ignoring my PMs? Am I asking the wrong questions?"
 
−
Stevey 10:51 PM: "On what we believe is Helper's channel "M" on Youtube.. there was a shadow at the end of his latest video, do you know what it is?"
 
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Archery 10:59 PM: "Also, what are demons and how do you become one? Can you stop being one?"
 
−
<span class="vip">/Patrem\ 11:03 PM: "Shadow's come in many forms child. Maybe your primative eyes misinterpreted unimiportant information as something of siginificance. Also chide me not should I be sans response of your tedious masked requests, I give each deep observation prior to action. However those that needn't require said observation to begin with often do not warrant my attention for I am quite busy and time truly is finite, even for one such as I."</span>
 
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Stevey 11:07 PM: "I said this as a joke to my friends in our chat a few moments ago... ... how did you...?"
 
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GreyouTT 11:12 PM: "What is the group attempting to do at the Fishery? What exactly do they plan to do with Doug?"
 
−
Oceanstuck 11:13 PM: "im here guys. hello ok i have a quick question. what are the defining characteristics of a demon? shits come up a bit in a few conversations and i think we should probably get that sorted out"
 
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<span class="vip">/Patrem\ 11:48 PM: "I am always watching you brats, for it is unwise to leave children unattended. As for the place of worship, my children are simply attempting to better themselves for the coming times. As for douglas, I have stated before what shall become of him is unchangeable as I have spoken previously and I have no reason to speak of what is currently happening to him, so I shall not."
 
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/Patrem\ 11:13 PM: "I know nothing of these "Demons" of which you speak. Why must you pry me of such foolish imaginings, what next? Shall you beseech me of the monsters beneath the place in which you rest?"</span>
 
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Mugen Kagemaru 11:53 PM: "Someone talked about demons and we're asking in case it becomes relevant. Better to look into red herrings than to ignore the right trail when it's revealed."
 
−
((Patrem begins quoting players' messages from Skype and responding to them in his posts. These quoted messages will be italicized.))
 
−
<span class="vip">/Patrem\ 12:35 AM: <i>"Since Patrem is the leader of the cult we should capture him"</i>
 
−
/Patrem\ 12:35 AM: "I would be delighted if you would speak more of these grandiose propositions. Please, if you honestly believe you carry knowledge not of my own understanding, do enlightened me. For surely you and your fellow "Detectives" are supremely powerful beings that I should not trifle with."
 
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/Patrem\ 12:35 AM: ((A distorted audio file is posted))</span> {{#simple-tooltip-img: http://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/a/ae/Lens.png | Unfortunately, this audio was not archived.}} {{#simple-tooltip-img: http://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/a/ae/Lens.png | This message was originally a Caesar cipher.<br />- Solved by Unknown}}
 
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Stevey 1:00 AM: "We're the most powerful thing since god my friend. We clearly have no need of these petty games..."
 
−
Archery 1:02 AM: "Ignore his insolence, forgive us father, for we have sinned..."
 
−
GreyouTT 1:08 AM: "Good to know higher beings are still capable of sarcasm. But since you asked, I'll tell you: We may not be powerful beings, but you should never count us out. We have a power of our own."
 
−
<span class="vip">/Patrem\ 1:29 AM: "Then try and wield this power child, see what it gets you in return. If you have some plan to "catch" me, I would be most pleased to see you execute it."</span>
 
−
GreyouTT 2:05 AM: "Tempting, but I think we'll save that for later. For now though, I think it's time us detectives fell off of your radar for a while."
 
−
GreyouTT 2:05 AM: ((The "Stone Mask" and "Gibdo Mask" are both submitted)) {{#simple-tooltip-img: http://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/a/ae/Lens.png | The "Gibdo Mask" is used to disguise the player as an enemy in Majora's Mask.}}
 
−
<span class="vip">/Patrem\ 2:38 AM: "Do you think you have sort of control over me? Do you even understand the power you attempt to wield? Look upon your foe, and kneel."
 
−
/Patrem\ 2:38 AM: ((Patrem posts a photo of himself though it is incredibly distorted))</span> <span class="ext-link">[[File:viewimage.png|frameless|link=http://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/9/9d/Handsome.jpg|target=_blank]]</span>
 
−
Stevey 2:46 AM: "More Technical issues.. huh?"
 
−
Archery 4:39 AM: "My word, you're the only handsomest ethereal entity I have ever set my eyes on, what a lovely complexion you have!"
 
−
<span class="vip">/Patrem\ 4:50 AM: "My true intent was to show you the form I currently reside in. However the power radiated from my own presence, and the complexity of delivering such a thing to this place resulted in showing nothing more than my essence, and some scrambled remains. Pity, the sight of my form would have sent you all into quite a bit of turmoil."</span>
 
−
Archery 4:52 AM: "Is the face found in the bottom right corner a remnant of the original image?"
 
−
<span class="vip">/Patrem\ 4:54 AM: "Yes child."</span>
 
−
Archery 4:56 AM: "Apologies about the comments earlier regarding capturing you. On a more serious note, is there any way we can contact Mason, or could you kindly put us in contact with him?"
 
−
<span class="vip">/Patrem\ 5:05 AM: "I found it quite amusing, as it always is, but most certainly it is when you think you can use your toys on me."</span>
 
−
Archery 5:10 AM: "Amusing it might be, but the statement is true, isn't it. You aren't asking us to cower in fear or kneel before you unlike before. If you do not mind, could you answer a few questions we have, including the prior question?"
 
−
Helix 5:12 AM: "Previously I've messaged you a couple of questions though I wasn't sure if it was something you could answer. In /notes, it is said that two of us must die. Is there a reason for this 'sacrifice'? What exactly is "her will"? Is /notes written by doug or you? And, if I may boldly ask again, are you against or for the idea of humans like us ascending?"
 
−
<span class="vip">/Patrem\ 5:20 AM: "I will answer but one final question, I have many things I must attend to and have no time for the incessant babbling of children."</span>
 
−
Archery 5:26 AM: "How can we can contact Mason ourselves? If we are unable to, could you kindly put us in contact with him?"
 
−
<span class="vip">/Patrem\ 5:35 AM: "Mason is a foolish child, there is no need for you to contact him. However I shall tell you that he is currently within his own residence. There is more to know of him, but it shall surely come to you in time, you are not infants and I shan't spoon feed you. Now I shall depart, as this child shall soon awaken and I still have tasks to address."</span>
 
−
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−
<p>On <span class="storydate">March 16th, 2015</span>, Patrem finally responded to some of the players' PM's. Though the full context of this conversation was not archived, it is known that Patrem threatened the player GreyouTT's life:</p>
 
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<p>"I will make falsehood of your life. In any time you should be my foe, know your foe is timeless."</p>
 
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−
<p>In response, the player Mugen Kagemaru began publicly taunting Patrem on Within Hubris:</p>
 
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|posted = Mar 16 2015, 10:52 PM
 
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|post = <poem><div class="WHspoiler">/Patrem\ </div><div class="WHspoilertext">... I will make falsehood of [Greyou's] life.
 
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<youtube>https://youtu.be/hPv0LOYt2Gc</youtube>
 
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Haaaaaah... Ha ha.. Hah!
 
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And they say empty words are nothing. Fuckers were wrong, that shit's hilarious!
 
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{{WHEntry
 
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|user = GreyouTT
 
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|count = 27
 
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|joined = August 10, 2012
 
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|posted = Mar 16 2015, 10:59 PM
 
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|postnum = 428
 
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|post = <poem>Welp, I'm done for the week.
 
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Goodbye world.
 
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[[File:AG4yJ.gif]]
 
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|user = <span style="color:#82005d !important;">/Patrem\</span>
 
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|joined = February 19, 2015
 
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|posted = Mar 16 2015, 11:18 PM
 
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|post = <poem><div class="WHspoiler">Quote: </div><div class="WHspoilertext">Haaaaaah... Ha ha.. Hah!
 
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−
Falsehood of ones life is to say that I shall render ones status of living to now be false, as yours shall soon be, and in the most terrible ways imaginable should you continue to act as though your position with me is any different than the other children. I have watched you speak as though you wield some form of power, remember this well child. The only one in power here is me.
 
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{{WHEntry
 
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|post = <poem><div class="WHspoiler">/Patrem\ <span style="float:right;">Mar 16 2015, 11:18 PM</span></div><div class="WHspoilertext">The only one in power here is me.</div>
 
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<p>Patrem mocks the player Mugen Kagemaru for his arrogance and childish remarks, though this only results in yet another embarrassing display from Mugen.</p>
 
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−
<p>Thankfully, the next day on "<span class="storydate">March 17th, 2015</span>", Mason finally returned to the players with an update.</p>
 
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Mason</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/e/e0/Msmall.png"></div><p>TEXTASDFASDFAD</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov2"><div class="talker"><b>Player</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/7/71/Bloganon.png"></div><p>TEXTETSETASDFASDF</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Mason</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/e/e0/Msmall.png"></div><p>TEXTASDFASDFAD</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>I will allow one last question from the rude one.</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov1e"><p>But only to give him a chance to redeem himself.</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>Mugen Kagemaru</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/f/f7/Mugenavi1.png"></div><p>What is the goal of your current journey?</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov1b"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>He has not redeemed himself.</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>GreyouTT</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/2/29/GreyouTT.png"></div><p>Saw that coming.</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>Oceanstuck</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/c/c5/WHocean.png"></div><p>this revelation surprises no one</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov1b"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>I stated in the beginning, and throughout my replies, that I still no longer have my body, and am in search of it.</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov2b"><div class="talker"><b>Eve</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/4/4d/WHeve.png"></div><p>Helper, what was your last word of advice?</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov1"><div class="talker"><b>Helper</b><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png"></div><p>Remember that, while you change events in the past, the future may also contact you. Also, the rude one is very rude, and also easily intimidated at the mention of their past. This goes for your member, and theirs.</p></div>
 +
<div class="pov1e"><p>I think that statement sets us at even odds, the one who calls themself Mugen.</p></div>
 +
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 +
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 +
<p>Helper and the player Mugen Kagemaru continue bickering. However, he leaves the players with a warning - though they are currently interacting with the past, individuals from the future may also contact them. This is possibly referencing the message from the modern-day 2015 Doug found on YSHDT.com. A full archive of this conversation can be found below:</p>
  
 +
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 +
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 +
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 +
Chat with Helper
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 +
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 +
<div class="mw-collapsible-content"><poem><span class="vip">[10:03:07 AM] *** Helper joined. ***</span>
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[10:03:15 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: !!!
 +
<span class="vip">[10:03:26 AM] Helper: Hello adventurers.</span>
 +
[10:03:36 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: hi helper
 +
<span class="vip">[10:04:06 AM] Helper: I would be pleased to know if you've found any leads on the whereabouts of my hat.</span>
 +
[10:05:19 AM] Wolfcat: I believe we know who has your hat, but we haven't been able to contact him yet.
 +
<span class="vip">[10:06:12 AM] Helper: I see.</span>
 +
[10:06:18 AM] Grey: Helper! You're back!
 +
<span class="vip">[10:06:33 AM] Helper: Hello, tactician!</span>
 +
[10:06:43 AM] Archery 2000: hey helper!
 +
[10:06:46 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: so helper
 +
[10:06:51 AM] Archery 2000: way to go! first thing I see when I wake up ^^
 +
[10:06:53 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: any luck getting your body back?
 +
[10:07:42 AM] Mando 寒山: Yo yo yo
 +
<span class="vip">[10:07:48 AM] Helper: I have not, sadly.</span>
 +
[10:08:02 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: aw
 +
[10:08:09 AM] Mando 寒山: What's up helpman
 +
<span class="vip">[10:08:43 AM] Helper: Not my spirits, sadly.</span>
 +
[10:09:01 AM] Archery 2000: did something happen?
 +
[10:09:21 AM] Mando 寒山: I have some free bodies if you want any
 +
<span class="vip">[10:09:23 AM] Helper: I do not have a body.</span>
 +
[10:10:00 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: any way we could help?
 +
<span class="vip">[10:10:27 AM] Helper: I do not see how, adventurer.</span>
 +
[10:10:40 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: darn
 +
[10:11:02 AM] Grey: How will we get your hat back to you once we find it?
 +
[10:11:02 AM] Mando 寒山: Where's your body now
 +
<span class="vip">[10:11:05 AM] Helper: However, I may have some information you might need during your future endeavors.</span>
 +
[10:11:13 AM] Archery 2000: and that might be?
 +
[10:11:18 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: mando, not the time
 +
[10:11:23 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: we can explain later
 +
[10:11:45 AM] Mando 寒山: Sure, lay it on us
 +
<span class="vip">[10:11:54 AM] Helper: I do not know, adventurer. If I knew where my body was, I would be in possession of it.</span>
 +
[10:12:15 AM] Archery 2000: helper, what is the information you have for us?
 +
<span class="vip">[10:13:42 AM] Helper: The one you call mason is still alive.</span>
 +
[10:13:59 AM] Archery 2000: is he in trouble?
 +
<span class="vip">[10:14:09 AM] Helper: Absolutely not.
 +
[10:14:20 AM] Helper: He happens to be doing nothing.</span>
 +
[10:14:32 AM] Eve Sim: That's good to know.
 +
[10:14:41 AM] Grey: thank goodness he's alive
 +
[10:14:46 AM] Archery 2000: is he unable to do anything? or is it his choice to do nothing?
 +
<span class="vip">[10:15:00 AM] Helper: I imagine it is his choice.</span>
 +
[10:15:08 AM] Eve Sim: I have a question.
 +
<span class="vip">[10:15:21 AM] Helper: Yes, adventurer?</span>
 +
[10:15:46 AM] Eve Sim: Do you know if "The Vile Man" will be back soon?
 +
[10:16:21 AM] Oceanstuck: quickly refreshes yshdt thread out of curiosity
 +
[10:16:32 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: ocean, helper is back!
 +
<span class="vip">[10:16:40 AM] Helper: I do not know of which vile man you speak.</span>
 +
[10:16:44 AM] Oceanstuck: finds an image with the words "azure rebirth" hidden in it and moogen flipping his shit
 +
[10:16:45 AM] Archery 2000: patrem
 +
[10:16:45 AM] Eve Sim: Patrem
 +
[10:16:57 AM] Oceanstuck: o hai helper
 +
<span class="vip">[10:17:35 AM] Helper: His actions are far outside what I will ever be able to perceive.
 +
[10:17:47 AM] Helper: So no.</span>
 +
[10:17:58 AM] Eve Sim: Ok, thank you.
 +
[10:18:02 AM] Mando 寒山: Oh, I got my internet back. Cool
 +
[10:18:24 AM] Mando 寒山: Okay so does this Azure Rebirth stuff have anything to do with whatever forum Mugen made or is this a coincidence
 +
<span class="vip">[10:19:00 AM] Helper: Azure Rebirth?</span>
 +
[10:19:16 AM] Oceanstuck: shrugs thats what it said
 +
[10:19:33 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Helper, im not sure how we could explain it to you without confusing you
 +
[10:19:40 AM] Archery 2000: helper, do you know how our friend Doug is?
 +
[10:19:45 AM] Grey: It was hidden in a clue we found.
 +
[10:20:02 AM] Archery 2000: so azure rebirth was hidden in eyes
 +
<span class="vip">[10:20:07 AM] Helper: I do not know of any Azure Rebirth.</span>
 +
[10:20:11 AM] Oceanstuck: whats this azure rebirth thing mean anyway
 +
[10:20:17 AM] Oceanstuck: those of you who actually know
 +
[10:20:43 AM] *** Oceanstuck added Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙) ***
 +
[10:20:52 AM | Removed 10:21:10 AM] Archery 2000: This message has been removed.
 +
<span class="vip">[10:20:52 AM] Helper: Doug is, as far as I know, still in his prison.</span>
 +
[10:21:02 AM] Archery 2000: I see, is there anything we can do to help him?
 +
[10:21:03 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: his prison?
 +
<span class="vip">[10:21:23 AM] Helper: The fishery.</span>
 +
[10:21:27 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: ah.
 +
[10:21:29 AM] Oceanstuck: describe the fishery
 +
[10:21:38 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): Helper did you get my message earlier?
 +
<span class="vip">[10:21:44 AM] Helper: My memories are still a little fuzzy.</span>
 +
[10:21:55 AM] Oceanstuck: try the best you can
 +
<span class="vip">[10:22:00 AM] Helper: It seemed to be a run down building.
 +
[10:22:13 AM] Helper: I do not know how else to describe it.</span>
 +
[10:22:18 AM] Oceanstuck: oh
 +
[10:22:20 AM] Oceanstuck: well you tried
 +
<span class="vip">[10:22:31 AM] Helper: I have not gotten your message, adventurer.</span>
 +
[10:22:38 AM] Archery 2000: is there anything we can do to help doug?
 +
<span class="vip">[10:22:46 AM] Helper: For I am not in possession of my hat.
 +
[10:22:58 AM] Helper: I am no longer a messenger.</span>
 +
[10:23:01 AM] Mando 寒山: [10:21 AM] Helper: <<< It seemed to be a run down building.I do not know how else to describe it.Are there any defining characteristics you can remember? Cars, a sign, etc.
 +
[10:23:02 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): Helper, check your Private Messages on here and the forum
 +
[10:23:06 AM] Oceanstuck: hey has anyone asked about that image with a bunch of our states of residence on it
 +
[10:23:09 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): The message is for you
 +
<span class="vip">[10:23:13 AM] Helper: There were no cars or signs.</span>
 +
[10:23:27 AM] Mando 寒山: How did you know it was a fishery
 +
<span class="vip">[10:23:27 AM] Helper: It was near a forested area, I believe.</span>
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[10:23:28 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: the one who we believe to have your had has not been in contact with us for a while
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<span class="vip">[10:23:50 AM] Helper: Because it was a fishery, adventurer!
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[10:24:08 AM] Helper: This is most odd.</span>
 +
[10:24:15 AM] Archery 2000: what is?
 +
[10:24:15 AM] Oceanstuck: helper i suggest you try to cut down on the tautologies
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[10:24:18 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: what is?
 +
<span class="vip">[10:24:23 AM] Helper: You have gotten messages, yes?</span>
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[10:24:33 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): No
 +
[10:24:37 AM] Archery 2000: supposedly from you?
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[10:24:38 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: from whom?
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<span class="vip">[10:24:58 AM] Helper: None whatsoever? Not even a video, picture, or hint?</span>
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[10:25:12 AM] Oceanstuck: what kind of messages are we talking
 +
<span class="vip">[10:25:17 AM] Helper: None other than the messenger, adventurer.</span>
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[10:25:18 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): Nothing we could consider as such, no.
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<span class="vip">[10:25:30 AM] Helper: I have just listed them, heroine.</span>
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[10:25:39 AM] Oceanstuck: oh
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[10:25:42 AM] Oceanstuck: heroine, huh
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<span class="vip">[10:25:47 AM] Helper: This is most odd indeed.</span>
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[10:25:47 AM] Oceanstuck: i like the sound of that
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[10:25:50 AM] Oceanstuck: ^.^
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[10:25:50 AM] Grey: Do you mean the videos with that weird shadow?
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[10:25:55 AM] Archery 2000: I suppose some could have received messages?
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[10:25:59 AM] Wolfcat: Do you mean, 'M'? Are they our Messenger?
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<span class="vip">[10:26:10 AM] Helper: The one in possession of the hat can share messages.</span>
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[10:26:17 AM] Oceanstuck: mason?
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[10:26:22 AM] Oceanstuck: huh
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[10:26:26 AM] Archery 2000: you have been quite active for the past few days
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[10:26:28 AM] Oceanstuck: kinda weird youd say that
 +
[10:26:33 AM] Oceanstuck: considering hes gone quiet on us
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<span class="vip">[10:26:38 AM] Helper: I do not know what the messenger has sent you, or what they call themselves.</span>
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[10:26:53 AM] Oceanstuck: how would we contact this messenger
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[10:26:53 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): Can you find out?
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[10:27:14 AM] Archery 2000: would this count as a message? <nowiki>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r4PMimSF7s</nowiki>
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[10:27:15 AM] Archery 2000: ?
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<span class="vip">[10:27:34 AM] Helper: Of course not, they are messages for you, not I!</span>
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[10:27:45 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: ....hwat
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[10:28:01 AM] Archery 2000: was it sent by you?
 +
[10:28:36 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): I have sent messages, Helper. Messages addressed to you. Did you receive them?
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<span class="vip">[10:29:07 AM] Helper: I do not understand your tongue.</span>
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[10:29:17 AM] Oceanstuck: he sent you shit
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<span class="vip">[10:29:21 AM] Helper: I am no longer the messenger.</span>
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[10:29:23 AM] Oceanstuck: he wants to know if you got it
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[10:29:39 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): They are not for you to pass along
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[10:29:51 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): They are for you to peruse
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[10:29:57 AM] Grey: I believe it's clear helper hasn't gotten anything
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<span class="vip">[10:29:59 AM] Helper: The messenger has gotten them. You are trying my patience, adventurer, I have explained such.</span>
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[10:30:19 AM] Archery 2000: my apologies helper, we have been rather rude hosts
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[10:30:23 AM] Kidpichu: hi ^-^
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[10:30:23 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Guys, lets calm down with all of the questions
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[10:30:25 AM] Oceanstuck: sry
 +
[10:30:28 AM] Oceanstuck: hi pichu
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[10:30:43 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): It is my belief that I am not correctly wording my question. I am trying to correct this problem.
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[10:31:01 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Oh also helper, I'm very sorry for my persistence last time you were here, i did not mean to come off as impatient
 +
<span class="vip">[10:31:30 AM] Helper: I understand your question, rude one. I am not an idiot.</span>
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[10:31:41 AM] Oceanstuck: welp
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[10:31:45 AM] Grey: Helper, if I may ask, how can we get your hat to you once we've found it?
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<span class="vip">[10:32:10 AM] Helper: The one who owns the hat is the messenger.</span>
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[10:32:21 AM] Oceanstuck: how can we contact the messenger
 +
[10:32:21 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): Um, let me try this. Uh, Helper? Did the Messenger give you any messages from me?
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[10:32:24 AM] Archery 2000: we have to get him to deliver it to you?
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<span class="vip">[10:32:26 AM] Helper: The messenger may relay messages across time and space.
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[10:32:36 AM] Helper: You simply give me a message.</span>
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[10:32:43 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: I am very confused by all of this
 +
[10:32:50 AM] Archery 2000: I see
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[10:32:56 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: so when we get your hat, we have to use the hat to bring the hat to you?
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[10:33:05 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): I wonder if that's the point Thorin
 +
[10:33:06 AM] Oceanstuck: pfp
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<span class="vip">[10:33:19 AM] Helper: I have not gotten any messages, adventurer.</span>
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[10:33:27 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): There we go
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[10:33:34 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): Did it right
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<span class="vip">[10:33:36 AM] Helper: The messenger gets the messages. They relay the messages.</span>
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[10:33:45 AM] Archery 2000: can they choose not to relay the messages?
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[10:33:46 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: :^)
 +
<span class="vip">[10:33:48 AM] Helper: I have spoken such three times now.</span>
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[10:33:48 AM] Oceanstuck: how do we give them messages to relay
 +
[10:34:06 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): You did not speak sense so we did not understand
 +
[10:34:12 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Oi
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[10:34:13 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: mugen
 +
[10:34:15 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: chill
 +
[10:34:17 AM] Oceanstuck: nah i think that was just you
 +
[10:34:21 AM] Grey: I do believe we are being a bit repetitive.
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[10:34:22 AM] Oceanstuck: shot
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<span class="vip">[10:34:26 AM] Helper: It is the job of the messanger to do such things as giving you chances to relay. I am not he.</span>
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[10:34:28 AM] Wolfcat: Mugen stop being rude : /
 +
[10:34:33 AM] Oceanstuck: dammit
 +
[10:34:37 AM] Betrayed in the Octagon: Can we focus on something more productive
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[10:34:43 AM] Archery 2000: Helper, can the messenger choose not to relay the message?
 +
<span class="vip">[10:34:51 AM] Helper: Yes.</span>
 +
[10:34:52 AM] Oceanstuck: is there anything we could do to get him to let us send stuff
 +
[10:34:58 AM | Edited 10:35:05 AM] Archery 2000: should we trust the current messenger?
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<span class="vip">[10:35:08 AM] Helper: I do not know whom it is.
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[10:35:14 AM] Helper: You claim to know.</span>
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[10:35:29 AM] Grey: We believe Mason has the hat
 +
[10:35:34 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: i believe his name is "mason" but we are not in contact with him
 +
<span class="vip">[10:35:38 AM] Helper: Then he is the messenger.</span>
 +
[10:35:41 AM] Grey: and is being chased by some sort of Shadow
 +
[10:35:45 AM] Oceanstuck: how do we gain contact with him
 +
<span class="vip">[10:35:53 AM] Helper: I do not know.</span>
 +
[10:35:55 AM] Oceanstuck: aw
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[10:35:59 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Hmmm
 +
<span class="vip">[10:36:04 AM] Helper: For I, once again, am not the messenger.</span>
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[10:36:21 AM] Oceanstuck: welp
 +
[10:36:25 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: lets let soe of the other people ask some questions, don't want to be rude and hog all of the question time
 +
[10:36:34 AM] Oceanstuck: ok
 +
[10:36:37 AM] Betrayed in the Octagon: what's the meaning of the image you posted in the thread?
 +
<span class="vip">[10:37:21 AM] Helper: I have not given you any image.</span>
 +
[10:37:29 AM] Eve Sim: I understand helper. I'm sorry for the barrage by the others, we're not entirely organized at the moment
 +
[10:37:37 AM] Oceanstuck: spirk, hes not the one posting in the thread
 +
[10:37:41 AM] Betrayed in the Octagon: oh
 +
[10:37:44 AM] Oceanstuck: eve were never organized
 +
[10:37:44 AM] Betrayed in the Octagon: well shit
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[10:37:45 AM] Grey: Told ya so
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[10:37:46 AM] Archery 2000: Helper, is there any meaning when you call us hero/heroes/heroine?
 +
[10:37:46 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Our communication skills are not very advanced.
 +
[10:38:01 AM | Edited 10:38:07 AM] Archery 2000: or is it merely interchangeable with adventurer?
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<span class="vip">[10:38:23 AM] Helper: Young archer, a rock will always be a rock, no matter what you happen to call it.</span>
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[10:38:48 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Helper, I've been wondering. why were you calling some of us demons?
 +
<span class="vip">[10:38:51 AM] Helper: However, the demons seek to drive you off your course.
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[10:38:56 AM] Helper: Be wary.</span>
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[10:39:07 AM] Archery 2000: are there still only two demons here?
 +
<span class="vip">[10:39:39 AM] Helper: I believe there are three now.</span>
 +
[10:39:50 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: any idea who the third one is?
 +
<span class="vip">[10:39:53 AM] Helper: One more by the name of link.</span>
 +
[10:39:57 AM] Oceanstuck: !!
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[10:39:57 AM] Betrayed in the Octagon: how can we recognize them?
 +
[10:39:57 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: what
 +
[10:40:03 AM] Oceanstuck: hwat
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[10:40:06 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: wait I am a demon?
 +
[10:40:10 AM] Archery 2000: so ADULT LINK is a demon?
 +
[10:40:11 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): Thorin is a demon? What?
 +
[10:40:27 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: I'm not sure how i feel about this.
 +
[10:40:28 AM] Oceanstuck: its because i made an awful injoke about him isnt it
 +
<span class="vip">[10:40:30 AM] Helper: This is only my opinion on the subject.</span>
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[10:40:40 AM] Oceanstuck: wait
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[10:40:43 AM] Mando 寒山: Can I get a list of all known demons
 +
[10:40:49 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Mando
 +
[10:40:50 AM] Oceanstuck: the other two demons, are they the same ones from before?
 +
[10:40:57 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Circle, Dawn, and i guess Me
 +
[10:41:06 AM] Oceanstuck: yeah but circle and dawn arent here
 +
[10:41:16 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Oh that is true.
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<span class="vip">[10:41:19 AM] Helper: The potential demon speaks the truth.</span>
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[10:41:19 AM] Eve Sim: Ocean, it's doesn't matter
 +
[10:41:19 AM] Oceanstuck: so im not sure if hes referring to them
 +
[10:41:26 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: wait
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[10:41:31 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: ocean is a potential demon?
 +
[10:41:40 AM] Eve Sim: No guys Link is
 +
[10:41:42 AM] Betrayed in the Octagon: I think he means you
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<span class="vip">[10:41:46 AM] Helper: No, you.</span>
 +
[10:41:47 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: oh
 +
[10:41:49 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: alright
 +
[10:41:51 AM] Oceanstuck: \(think)
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[10:42:07 AM] Eve Sim: Seriously, Helper. I apologize deeply.
 +
[10:42:11 AM] Archery 2000: Helper, I recall that the last time you spoke to us, you mentioned that people don't simply become demons
 +
[10:42:13 AM] Oceanstuck: [10:41 AM] Helper: <<< No, you.im lost who do you mean by "you"
 +
[10:42:20 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): Eve knock it off
 +
[10:42:28 AM] Archery 2000: No you was referring to link
 +
[10:42:33 AM] Oceanstuck: ok
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[10:42:37 AM | Edited 10:42:47 AM] Archery 2000: why is it that Link may now be a demon even though he wasn't previously
 +
[10:42:45 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: well i mean
 +
<span class="vip">[10:42:50 AM] Helper: You ask him.</span>
 +
[10:42:51 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: i had been asking if i was one
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[10:42:54 AM] Oceanstuck: maybe he just couldnt tell the first time
 +
[10:42:57 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: and i ended up being called impatient
 +
[10:42:58 AM | Edited 10:43:56 AM] Archery 2000: helper, being a demon is a matter of choice?
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<span class="vip">[10:44:02 AM] Helper: If that is all, I will be taking my leave of you.</span>
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[10:44:12 AM | Edited 10:44:43 AM] Oceanstuck: wait
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[10:44:20 AM] Grey: I have one more question if that's alright
 +
[10:44:21 AM] Archery 2000: helper, is being a demon a matter of choice?
 +
<span class="vip">[10:44:25 AM | Edited 10:44:33 AM] Helper: I would take an aspirin if I had hands.</span>
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[10:44:26 AM] Oceanstuck: me too
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[10:44:45 AM] Eve Sim: Thank you helper.
 +
[10:44:46 AM | Edited 10:44:56 AM] Archery 2000: Helper, are you in pain?
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<span class="vip">[10:44:58 AM] Helper: Yes, being a demon is a matter of choice.</span>
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[10:45:06 AM] Oceanstuck: how so
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[10:45:13 AM] Oceanstuck: define this choice
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<span class="vip">[10:45:26 AM] Helper: Simply listening to all of you has given me considerable pain in my skull.</span>
 +
[10:45:32 AM] Archery 2000: My apologies
 +
[10:45:35 AM] Oceanstuck: sry
 +
[10:45:40 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: sorry about that helper.
 +
[10:45:47 AM | Edited 10:46:15 AM] Archery 2000: I hope you do not hold it against us, we are just surprised at a second opportunity to speak to you
 +
[10:46:05 AM] Grey: okay, now I have two questions
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[10:46:14 AM] Eve Sim: Grey, he's leaving
 +
[10:46:21 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: we really need to improve our communication skills, and decide what to say instead of barraging you with questions.
 +
[10:46:26 AM] Oceanstuck: yeah
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[10:46:37 AM] Grey: Yes, but I'm wondering why he has a headache if he's dead.
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[10:46:43 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: he is a spirit
 +
[10:46:50 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: he has a ghostly headache
 +
[10:46:54 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: or so i would imagine
 +
[10:46:55 AM] Archery 2000: helper, is there any final advice you can give us?
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[10:47:00 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): Spirits feel pain too guys
 +
[10:47:00 AM] Eve Sim: ^
 +
[10:47:04 AM] Oceanstuck: yeah that
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[10:47:15 AM] Oceanstuck: lol link ninjad you
 +
<span class="vip">[10:47:20 AM] Helper: The level of idiocy has reached paranormal levels.</span>
 +
[10:47:26 AM] Eve Sim: ^^^^^^
 +
[10:47:30 AM] Oceanstuck: sounds about normal
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[10:47:31 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Sorry helper
 +
[10:47:41 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): Anyway
 +
[10:47:43 AM] Archery 2000: Sorry helper, but I still have to ask, is there any final advice you can give us?
 +
[10:47:48 AM] Grey: It's a fact that the larger a group is, the lower their IQ gets.
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[10:47:59 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: everyone shh
 +
[10:48:04 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): Grey has one more question yes?
 +
[10:48:04 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: please
 +
[10:48:10 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: im starting to get a headache too
 +
[10:48:19 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: and i imagine that Helpers is way larger
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<span class="vip">[10:48:25 AM] Helper: I will answer the tactician's last question.
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[10:48:34 AM] Helper: And give one last piece of advice.</span>
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[10:49:30 AM] Oceanstuck: leans in to listen closely
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[10:49:46 AM] Oceanstuck: which is kinda pointless since this is all text
 +
[10:50:43 AM] Grey: Recently we've seen that the group of people who imprisoned  Doug have found where some of us reside. I just want to know, who's still safe?
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<span class="vip">[10:51:55 AM] Helper: Whomever they cannot get to. While the group may know your location, they might not have the means to get to it.</span>
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[10:52:22 AM] Archery 2000: and the advice?
 +
[10:52:27 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): May I ask one final question before you give your advice?
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[10:52:33 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: i believe that was the advice archery
 +
[10:52:42 AM] Oceanstuck: too late moogs
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<span class="vip">[10:52:49 AM] Helper: I would protect your mailing addresses though. Just in case my hat is used for nefarious deeds.
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[10:53:13 AM] Helper: I will allow one last question from the rude one.
 +
[10:53:29 AM] Helper: But only to give him a chance to redeem himself.</span>
 +
[10:53:42 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): What is the goal of your current journey?
 +
<span class="vip">[10:53:59 AM] Helper: He has not redeemed himself.</span>
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[10:53:59 AM] *** Stevey "Wolfe" Freeman gasp ***
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[10:54:02 AM] Stevey "Wolfe" Freeman: helper
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[10:54:08 AM] Grey: Saw that coming.
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[10:54:10 AM] Oceanstuck: this revelation surprises no one
 +
[10:54:13 AM] Stevey "Wolfe" Freeman: My friend! :D
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[10:54:26 AM] Oceanstuck: LE GASP
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[10:54:40 AM] Eve Sim: Helper, what was your last word of advice?
 +
[10:54:45 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Well helper, i hope youquest to get you body back is successful, we shall continue to search for and regain your hat to you!
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[10:54:49 AM] Oceanstuck: dont give your mailing addresses
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<span class="vip">[10:54:51 AM] Helper: I stated in the beginning, and throughout my replies, that I still no longer have my body, and am in search of it.</span>
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[10:54:51 AM | Edited 10:55:12 AM] Archery 2000: yes, if you've said your advice, could you repeat it?
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<span class="vip">[10:55:22 AM] Helper: I have not stated it yet.</span>
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[10:55:24 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): The question was to clarify this. I thank you for it
 +
<span class="vip">[10:55:34 AM] Helper: I am thinking up some good sage advice.</span>
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[10:55:35 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): Your advice, please?
 +
[10:55:41 AM] Archery 2000: haha, we're all ears
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[10:55:56 AM | Edited 10:55:58 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Helper you have the greatest personality
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[10:56:00 AM] Oceanstuck: i like you helper
 +
[10:56:10 AM] Grey: Why does Mugen's comments read like a Phoenix Wright cross examination.
 +
[10:56:25 AM] Oceanstuck: PFFPT
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[10:56:48 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): Because I'm not rude, I am merely not intimidated.
 +
[10:56:55 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: >_<
 +
[10:56:58 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: stfu  the rude one
 +
[10:57:00 AM] Oceanstuck: hahahahahahaha
 +
[10:57:01 AM] Mando 寒山: Not mutually exclusive duderino
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[10:57:01 AM] Wolfcat: Nah you're pretty rude
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<span class="vip">[10:58:39 AM] Helper: Remember that, while you change events in the past, the future may also contact you. Also, the rude one is very rude, and also easily intimidated at the mention of their past. This goes for your member, and theirs.</span>
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[10:58:59 AM] Archery 2000: theirs?
 +
[10:59:04 AM] Archery 2000: oh
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[10:59:07 AM] Archery 2000: thank you
 +
[10:59:18 AM] Oceanstuck: huh
 +
[10:59:20 AM] Wolfcat: Thank you very much, Helper.
 +
[10:59:23 AM] Archery 2000: again, sorry for the badgering
 +
[10:59:25 AM] Grey: Thank you Helper.
 +
[10:59:30 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Thank you for the sageful advice helper, i hope you get your body soon
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<span class="vip">[10:59:44 AM] Helper: I think that statement sets us at even odds, the one who calls themself Mugen.</span>
 +
[10:59:54 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): That past belongs to another. He may be connected to me, and it was he who was angered by the remider
 +
[11:00:01 AM] Oceanstuck: bullshit
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<span class="vip">[11:00:01 AM] *** Helper has left ***</span>
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<img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/0/0d/Helpericon2.png" alt="" />
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<div class="quotename">
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<div class="quote">
 +
<p>"The level of idiocy has reached paranormal levels."</p>
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 +
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 +
{{Checkpoint|num=3}}
  
 +
<p>Back on Within Hubris, various players began sending Patrem questions via PM's. Unfortunately, he rarely, if ever, responded to them. However, on <span class="storydate">March 15th, 2015</span>, Patrem finally returned - likely due to the "New Wave Bossa Nova" finally taking effect.</p>
  
 
<div class="storyWHholder">
 
<div class="storyWHholder">
 
<div class="WHpost">
 
<div class="WHpost">
  
 +
{{WHEntry
 +
|user = <span style="#82005d !important">/Patrem\</span>
 +
|image = WHpatrem.png
 +
|group = Canon Characters
 +
|count = 609
 +
|joined = February 19, 2015
 +
|postnum = 379
 +
|posted = Mar 15 2015, 08:35 PM</span>
 +
|post = <poem>I am in the midst of my work child, what is it that you must call on me in such a place?</poem>
 
}}
 
}}
 
{{WHEntry
 
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|user = NAME
+
|user = Spirkiroid
−
|image = IMAGE
+
|image = Spirkiroid.gif
 
|group = Players
 
|group = Players
−
|count = JOIN_NUM
+
|count = 12
−
|joined = JOIN_DATE
+
|joined = August 10, 2012
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|posted = POSTED
+
|postnum = 380
−
|postnum = POST_COUNT
+
|posted = Mar 15 2015, 08:39 PM</span>
−
|post = <poem>
+
|post = <poem>hey dude
  
−
 
+
can we get a selfie</poem>
−
</poem>
 
 
}}
 
}}
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</div>
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{{WHEntry
−
<br style="clear:both;" />
+
|user = <span style="color:#82005d !important;">/Patrem\</span>
−
</div>
+
|image = WHpatrem.png
−
 
+
|group = Characters
−
 
+
|count = 609
−
 
+
|joined = February 19, 2015
−
 
+
|posted = Mar 15 2015, 08:44 PM
 +
|postnum = 381
 +
|post = <poem>Do you think you are worthy of my visage, child?</poem>
 +
}}
 +
{{WHEntry
 +
|user = Mugen Kagemaru
 +
|image = WHmug.png
 +
|group = Players
 +
|count = 83
 +
|joined = August 15, 2012
 +
|posted = Mar 15 2015, 08:47 PM
 +
|postnum = 382
 +
|post = <poem>>implying that they care
  
 +
Hah. Ha ha, funny.
  
 +
Come now. Don't be shy. That's my girlfriend's department.</poem>
 +
}}
 +
{{WHEntry
 +
|user = Stevean2
 +
|image = Stevey.png
 +
|group = Players
 +
|count = 605
 +
|joined = February 18, 2015
 +
|posted = Mar 15 2015, 08:48 PM
 +
|postnum = 383
 +
|post = <poem>A majority of us have contributed to this avertion of chaos. Found multiple truths and therefore aided you in your work... so yes...
  
 +
or alternatively...
  
 +
don't be shy!
 +
</poem>
 +
}}
 +
{{WHEntry
 +
|user = Rafal
 +
|image = WHrafal.png
 +
|group = Players
 +
|count = 184
 +
|joined = October 9, 2012
 +
|posted = Mar 15 2015, 08:53 PM
 +
|postnum = 384
 +
|post = <poem>And if you think us not worthy of your visage, you still have deemed us at least somewhat worthy of your time based upon your actions.
  
 +
If you decline to show, perhaps you could still do us the honor of telling us something.</poem>
 +
}}
 +
{{WHEntry
 +
|user = ihatesigningupforstufflikethis
 +
|image = WHhate.png
 +
|group = Players
 +
|count = 154
 +
|joined = September 16, 2012
 +
|posted = Mar 15 2015, 09:00 PM
 +
|postnum = 385
 +
|post = <poem>patrem i bet yr cute</poem>
 +
}}
 +
{{WHEntry
 +
|user = <span style="color:#82005d !important;">/Patrem\</span>
 +
|image = WHpatrem.png
 +
|group = Characters
 +
|count = 609
 +
|joined = February 19, 2015
 +
|posted = Mar 15 2015, 09:40 PM
 +
|postnum = 387
 +
|post = <poem>You have all amused me greatly. So despite requesting in such a childish manner, I may grant you the privilege
 +
of a glimpse at my current form. However, this may take time, as capturing and sending a depiction of it from
 +
where I currently dwell is a task of great complexity. Just as the method in which I dwell is that of complexity, and often is the cause of disrepair in electrical devices.
  
−
 
+
All this aside, is there anything you request at this time children, or shall I return to my work?</poem>
−
 
+
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−
 
+
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+
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<div class="pov1"><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/5/58/Anony.png"><p>TEXT</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov2"><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/d/d9/Anony_g.png"><p>TEXT</p></div>
 
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<div class="pov2"><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/3/39/Ryusmoll.png"><p>TEXT</p></div>
 
 
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 +
<p>The players ask Patrem for a selfie. Surprisingly, he obliges - though he claims it will take some time as his current form and location corrupt electronic devices. In the meantime, he offers to answer some of the players' questions.</p>
  
 +
<div class="storyWHholder">
 +
<div class="WHpost">
  
 +
{{WHEntry
 +
|user = archery2000
 +
|image = WHarchery.png
 +
|group = Players
 +
|count = 51
 +
|joined = August 11, 2012
 +
|posted = Mar 15 2015, 09:45 PM
 +
|postnum = 388
 +
|post = <poem>Hey Patrem,
  
 +
Why do you keep ignoring my PMs? Am I asking the wrong questions?</poem>
 +
}}
 +
{{WHEntry
 +
|user = Stevean2
 +
|image = Stevey.png
 +
|group = Players
 +
|count = 605
 +
|joined = February 18, 2015
 +
|posted = Mar 15 2015, 09:51 PM
 +
|postnum = 389
 +
|post = <poem>On what we believe is Helper's channel "M" on Youtube.. there was a shadow at the end of his latest video, do you know what it is?</poem>
 +
}}
 +
{{WHEntry
 +
|user = archery2000
 +
|image = WHarchery.png
 +
|group = Players
 +
|count = 51
 +
|joined = August 11, 2012
 +
|posted = Mar 15 2015, 09:59 PM
 +
|postnum = 390
 +
|post = <poem>Also, what are demons and how do you become one? Can you stop being one?</poem>
 +
}}
 +
</div>
 +
<br style="clear:both;" />
 +
</div>
  
−
<div class="storyscriptyshdt"><poem><p>TEXT_HERE</p></poem></div>
+
<p>The players ask Patrem why he's been ignoring their PM's. They also ask him about the shadowy figure seen at the end of the video "R". Expecting Patrem to respond in his usual condescending way, the player Stevey begins mocking him in the Internet Detectives Skype group, writing up the following mock response: "<i>Shadow's come in many forms child. Maybe your primative eyes misinterpreted unimiportant information as something of siginificance.</i>". Shortly after this, however...</p>
  
 +
<div class="storyWHholder">
 +
<div class="WHpost">
  
 +
{{WHEntry
 +
|user = <span style="color:#82005d !important;">/Patrem\</span>
 +
|image = WHpatrem.png
 +
|group = Characters
 +
|count = 609
 +
|joined = February 19, 2015
 +
|posted = Mar 15 2015, 10:03 PM
 +
|postnum = 391
 +
|post = <poem>Shadow's come in many forms child. Maybe your primative eyes misinterpreted unimiportant information as something of siginificance.
  
−
 
+
Also chide me not should I be sans response of your tedious masked requests, I give each deep observation prior to action.
−
 
+
However those that needn't require said observation to begin with often do not warrant my attention for I am
−
<div class="storyconvo">
+
quite busy and time truly is finite, even for one such as I.</poem>
−
<div class="pov2"><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/5/58/Anony.png"><p>TEXT_GOES_HERE</p></div>
+
}}
−
<div class="pov1"><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/b/b0/Ifritsmall.png"><p>TEXT_GOES_HERE</p></div>
+
{{WHEntry
−
<div class="pov2"><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/5/58/Anony.png"><p>TEXT_GOES_HERE</p></div>
+
|user = Stevean2
−
<div class="pov1"><img src="https://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/b/b0/Ifritsmall.png"><p>TEXT_GOES_HERE</p></div>
+
|image = Stevey.png
 +
|group = Players
 +
|count = 605
 +
|joined = February 18, 2015
 +
|posted = Mar 15 2015, 10:07 PM
 +
|postnum = 392
 +
|post = <poem><div class="WHspoiler">/Patrem\ <span style="float:right;">Mar 15 2015, 10:03 PM</span></div><div class="WHspoilertext">Shadow's come in many forms child. Maybe your primative eyes misinterpreted unimiportant information as something of siginificance.
 
</div>
 
</div>
−
<br  style="clear:both;"/><br />
+
I said this as a joke to my friends in our chat a few moments ago...
−
 
+
... how did you...?</poem>
 +
}}
 +
{{WHEntry
 +
|user = GreyouTT
 +
|image = GreyouTT.png
 +
|group = Players
 +
|count = 27
 +
|joined = August 10, 2012
 +
|posted = Mar 15 2015, 10:12 PM
 +
|postnum = 393
 +
|post = <poem>What is the group attempting to do at the Fishery? What exactly do they plan to do with Doug?</poem>
 +
}}
 +
{{WHEntry
 +
|user = Oceanstuck
 +
|image = WHocean.png
 +
|group = Players
 +
|count = 595
 +
|joined = February 3, 2015
 +
|posted = Mar 15 2015, 10:13 PM
 +
|postnum = 394
 +
|post = <poem>im here guys. hello
  
 +
ok i have a quick question. what are the defining characteristics of a demon? shits come up a bit in a few conversations and i think we should probably get that sorted out</poem>
 +
}}
 +
{{WHEntry
 +
|user = <span style="color:#82005d !important;">/Patrem\</span>
 +
|image = WHpatrem.png
 +
|group = Characters
 +
|count = 609
 +
|joined = February 19, 2015
 +
|posted = Mar 15 2015, 10:48 PM
 +
|postnum = 395
 +
|post = <poem><div class="WHspoiler">Quote: </div><div class="WHspoilertext">I said this as a joke to my friends in our chat a few moments ago...
 +
... how did you...?</div>
  
 +
I am always watching you brats, for it is unwise to leave children unattended.
  
 +
As for the place of worship, my children are simply attempting to better themselves for the coming times.
 +
As for douglas, I have stated before what shall become of him is unchangeable as I have spoken previously and
 +
I have no reason to speak of what is currently happening to him, so I shall not.
  
 +
<div class="WHspoiler">Quote: </div><div class="WHspoilertext">ok i have a quick question. what are the defining characteristics of a demon? shits come up a bit in a few conversations and i think we should probably get that sorted out</div>
  
 +
I know nothing of these "Demons" of which you speak. Why must you pry me of such foolish imaginings, what next? Shall you beseech me of the monsters beneath the place in which you rest?
 +
</poem>
 +
}}
 +
</div>
 +
<br style="clear:both;" />
 +
</div>
  
 +
<p>Patrem responds using the exact same mock phrase posted by the player Stevey, revealing that he is capable of observing the players' private conversations on different websites. He also explains that he has not answered many of the players' PM's because he views them as weak attempts to squeeze more information out of him. In regards to the players' other questions, Patrem's unwilling to divulge any more information about Doug. He also claims to not know anything about the "demons" mentioned by Helper and he chides the players for asking about such foolish things.</p>
  
−
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+
<p>Back in the Internet Detectives Skype group, the players begin concocting a plan to capture Patrem using their Ocarina powers, writing the following: "<i>Since Patrem is the leader of the cult we should capture him</i>". Just like before, Patrem witnesses this message and responds on Within Hubris:</p>
−
 
 
−
 
 
  
 +
<div class="storyWHholder">
 +
<div class="WHpost">
  
 +
{{WHEntry
 +
|user = <span style="color:#82005d !important;">/Patrem\</span>
 +
|image = WHpatrem.png
 +
|group = Characters
 +
|count = 609
 +
|joined = February 19, 2015
 +
|posted = Mar 15 2015, 11:35 PM
 +
|postnum = 397
 +
|post = <poem><div class="WHspoiler">Quote: </div><div class="WHspoilertext">Since Patrem is the leader of the cult
 +
we should capture him</div>
  
 +
I would be delighted if you would speak more of these grandiose propositions. Please, if you honestly believe
 +
you carry knowledge not of my own understanding, do enlightened me. For surely you and your fellow "Detectives"
 +
are supremely powerful beings that I should not trifle with.
  
  
  
 +
uggc://ibpnebb.pbz/v/f0FHLqCjLMXO
  
 +
<div class="WHsolved"><b>Solved:</b> <nowiki>http://vocaroo.com/i/s0SUYdPwYZKB</nowiki></div>
 +
</poem>
 +
}}
 +
{{WHEntry
 +
|user = GreyouTT
 +
|image = GreyouTT.png
 +
|group = Players
 +
|count = 27
 +
|joined = August 10, 2012
 +
|posted = Mar 16 2015, 12:08 AM
 +
|postnum = 402
 +
|post = <poem>Good to know higher beings are still capable of sarcasm.
  
 +
But since you asked, I'll tell you: We may not be powerful beings, but you should never count us out. We have a power of our own.</poem>
 +
}}
 +
{{WHEntry
 +
|user = <span style="color:#82005d !important;">/Patrem\</span>
 +
|image = WHpatrem.png
 +
|group = Characters
 +
|count = 609
 +
|joined = February 19, 2015
 +
|posted = Mar 16 2015, 12:29 AM
 +
|postnum = 403
 +
|post = <poem><div class="WHspoiler">Quote: </div><div class="WHspoilertext">We have a power of our own.</div>
  
−
<span class="altTooltip2">TEXT_HERE<span class="tooltiptext2">TEXT_HERE</span></span>
+
Then try and wield this power child, see what it gets you in return. If you have some plan to "catch" me,
−
<span class="altTooltip2">TEXT_HERE<span class="tooltiptext2">TEXT_HERE</span></span>
+
I would be most pleased to see you execute it.
−
 
+
</poem>
−
 
+
}}
−
 
+
{{WHEntry
−
 
+
|user = GreyouTT
−
 
+
|image = GreyouTT.png
 +
|group = Players
 +
|count = 27
 +
|joined = August 10, 2012
 +
|posted = Mar 16 2015, 01:05 AM
 +
|postnum = 408
 +
|post = <poem>Tempting, but I think we'll save that for later.
 +
 
 +
For now though, I think it's time us detectives fell off of your radar for a while.
  
 +
[[File:Stone_Mask.png]] [[File:Gibdo_Mask.png]]
  
 +
<span class="edited">Edited by <b>GreyouTT</b>, Mar 16 2015, 01:22 AM.</span></poem>
 +
}}
 +
{{WHEntry
 +
|user = <span style="color:#82005d !important;">/Patrem\</span>
 +
|image = WHpatrem.png
 +
|group = Characters
 +
|count = 609
 +
|joined = February 19, 2015
 +
|posted = Mar 16 2015, 01:38 AM
 +
|postnum = 409
 +
|post = <poem>[[File:Handsome.jpg]]
  
−
<div class="quoteblock">
+
Do you think you have sort of control over me? Do you even understand the power you attempt to wield?
−
<div class="quotefullimg ">
+
Look upon your foe, and kneel.</poem>
−
<img src="IMAGE_GOES_HERE" alt="" />
+
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−
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+
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−
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−
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−
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−
<p>"QUOTEGOESHERE"</p>
 
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−
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 +
<p>Patrem scoffs at the players and dares them to attempt their plan. Instead, the players submit the "<b>Stone Mask</b>" and the "<b>Gibdo Mask</b>" in an attempt to hide their private conversations from him. Unfortunately, this has no effect. In response, Patrem finally posts his selfie - though it seems to he heavily corrupted.</p>
 +
 +
<div class="storyWHholder">
 +
<div class="WHpost">
  
 +
{{WHEntry
 +
|user = Stevean2
 +
|image = Stevey.png
 +
|group = Players
 +
|count = 605
 +
|joined = February 18, 2015
 +
|posted = Mar 16 2015, 01:46 AM
 +
|postnum = 410
 +
|post = <poem>More Technical issues.. huh?</poem>
 +
}}
 +
{{WHEntry
 +
|user = Mugen Kagemaru
 +
|image = WHmug.png
 +
|group = Players
 +
|count = 83
 +
|joined = August 15, 2012
 +
|posted = Mar 16 2015, 01:59 AM
 +
|postnum = 411
 +
|post = <poem>[[File:515131.gif]]
  
 +
Pigma Dengar? Is that you?</poem>
 +
}}
 +
{{WHEntry
 +
|user = archery2000
 +
|image = WHarchery.png
 +
|group = Players
 +
|count = 51
 +
|joined = August 11, 2012
 +
|posted = Mar 16 2015, 03:39 AM
 +
|postnum = 413
 +
|post = <poem>My word, you're the only handsomest ethereal entity I have ever set my eyes on, what a lovely complexion you have!</poem>
 +
}}
 +
{{WHEntry
 +
|user = <span style="color:#82005d !important;">/Patrem\</span>
 +
|image = WHpatrem.png
 +
|group = Characters
 +
|count = 609
 +
|joined = February 19, 2015
 +
|posted = Mar 16 2015, 03:50 AM
 +
|postnum = 414
 +
|post = <poem>My true intent was to show you the form I currently reside in. However the power radiated from my own presence,
 +
and the complexity of delivering such a thing to this place resulted in showing nothing more than my essence, and
 +
some scrambled remains. Pity, the sight of my form would have sent you all into quite a bit of turmoil.</poem>
 +
}}
 +
{{WHEntry
 +
|user = archery2000
 +
|image = WHarchery.png
 +
|group = Players
 +
|count = 51
 +
|joined = August 11, 2012
 +
|posted = Mar 16 2015, 03:52 AM
 +
|postnum = 415
 +
|post = <poem><div class="WHspoiler">/Patrem\ <span style="float:right;">Mar 16 2015, 03:50 AM</span></div><div class="WHspoilertext">My true intent was to show you the form I currently reside in. However the power radiated from my own presence,
 +
and the complexity of delivering such a thing to this place resulted in showing nothing more than my essence, and
 +
some scrambled remains. Pity, the sight of my form would have sent you all into quite a bit of turmoil.</div>
 +
Is the face found in the bottom right corner a remnant of the original image?</poem>
 +
}}
 +
{{WHEntry
 +
|user = <span style="color:#82005d !important;">/Patrem\</span>
 +
|image = WHpatrem.png
 +
|group = Characters
 +
|count = 609
 +
|joined = February 19, 2015
 +
|posted = Mar 16 2015, 03:54 AM
 +
|postnum = 416
 +
|post = <poem>Yes child.</poem>
 +
}}
 +
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 +
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 +
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 +
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<p>Patrem confirms the the face seen overlaying parts of the image are remnants of the original selfie before his essence corrupted the file. Interestingly, he notes that the appearance of his true face would cause the players a great deal of turmoil for some reason...</p>
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|count = 609
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|joined = February 19, 2015
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|posted = Mar 16 2015, 04:05 AM
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|postnum = 418
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|post = <poem><div class="WHspoiler">Quote: </div><div class="WHspoilertext">he seems calmer now than when we tried to discuss capturing him</div>
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I found it quite amusing, as it always is, but most certainly it is when you think you can use your toys on me.</poem>
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{{WHEntry
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|image = WHpatrem.png
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|group = Characters
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|count = 609
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|joined = February 19, 2015
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|posted = Mar 16 2015, 04:20 AM
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|postnum = 421
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|post = <poem>I will answer but one final question, I have many things I must attend to and have no time for the incessant babbling of children.</poem>
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|user = archery2000
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|image = WHarchery.png
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|group = Players
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|count = 51
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|joined = August 11, 2012
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|posted = Mar 16 2015, 04:26 AM
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|postnum = 422
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|post = <poem>How can we can contact Mason ourselves? If we are unable to, could you kindly put us in contact with him?</poem>
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|joined = February 19, 2015
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|post = <poem>Mason is a foolish child, there is no need for you to contact him. However I shall tell you that he is currently within his own residence. There is more to know of him, but it shall surely come to you in time, you are not infants and I shan't spoon feed you.
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Now I shall depart, as this child shall soon awaken and I still have tasks to address.</poem>
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<p>Patrem informs the players that there is currently no need for them to contact Mason. He also claims that Mason is currently at home, implying that he's safe for the time being. He also claims that "<span class="canquote">this child</span>" shall soon awaken, though who exactly this is referring to is unknown. This full conversation is archived below:</p>
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Chat with Patrem
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<div class="mw-collapsible-content"><poem><span class="vip">/Patrem\ 9:35 PM: "I am in the midst of my work child, what is it that you must call on me in such a place?"</span>
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Spirkiroid 9:39 PM: "hey dude can we get a selfie"
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<span class="vip">/Patrem\ 9:44 PM: "Do you think you are worthy of my visage, child?"</span>
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Mugen Kagemaru 9:47 PM: "Hah. Ha ha, funny. Come now. Don't be shy. That's my girlfriend's department."
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Stevey 9:48 PM: "A majority of us have contributed to this avertion of chaos. Found multiple truths and therefore aided you in your work... so yes... or alternatively... don't be shy!"
 +
Rafal 9:53 PM: "And if you think us not worthy of your visage, you still have deemed us at least somewhat worthy of your time based upon your actions. If you decline to show, perhaps you could still do us the honor of telling us something."
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ihatesigningupforstufflikethis 10:00 PM: "patrem i bet yr cute"
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GreyouTT 10:01 PM: "WELL, WELL, WELL. You actually posted. Now that you're here, I think it's time we got some things out in the open. For example, you seem to be sticking to PMs quite a bit there my inter-dimensional friend. Why so secretive?"
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<span class="vip">/Patrem\ 10:40 PM: "You have all amused me greatly. So despite requesting in such a childish manner, I may grant you the privilege of a glimpse at my current form. However, this may take time, as capturing and sending a depiction of it from where I currently dwell is a task of great complexity. Just as the method in which I dwell is that of complexity, and often is the cause of disrepair in electrical devices. All this aside, is there anything you request at this time children, or shall I return to my work?"</span>
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Archery 10:45 PM: "Hey Patrem, Why do you keep ignoring my PMs? Am I asking the wrong questions?"
 +
Stevey 10:51 PM: "On what we believe is Helper's channel "M" on Youtube.. there was a shadow at the end of his latest video, do you know what it is?"
 +
Archery 10:59 PM: "Also, what are demons and how do you become one? Can you stop being one?"
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<span class="vip">/Patrem\ 11:03 PM: "Shadow's come in many forms child. Maybe your primative eyes misinterpreted unimiportant information as something of siginificance. Also chide me not should I be sans response of your tedious masked requests, I give each deep observation prior to action. However those that needn't require said observation to begin with often do not warrant my attention for I am quite busy and time truly is finite, even for one such as I."</span>
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Stevey 11:07 PM: "I said this as a joke to my friends in our chat a few moments ago... ... how did you...?"
 +
GreyouTT 11:12 PM: "What is the group attempting to do at the Fishery? What exactly do they plan to do with Doug?"
 +
Oceanstuck 11:13 PM: "im here guys. hello ok i have a quick question. what are the defining characteristics of a demon? shits come up a bit in a few conversations and i think we should probably get that sorted out"
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<span class="vip">/Patrem\ 11:48 PM: "I am always watching you brats, for it is unwise to leave children unattended. As for the place of worship, my children are simply attempting to better themselves for the coming times. As for douglas, I have stated before what shall become of him is unchangeable as I have spoken previously and I have no reason to speak of what is currently happening to him, so I shall not."
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/Patrem\ 11:13 PM: "I know nothing of these "Demons" of which you speak. Why must you pry me of such foolish imaginings, what next? Shall you beseech me of the monsters beneath the place in which you rest?"</span>
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Mugen Kagemaru 11:53 PM: "Someone talked about demons and we're asking in case it becomes relevant. Better to look into red herrings than to ignore the right trail when it's revealed."
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((Patrem begins quoting players' messages from Skype and responding to them in his posts. These quoted messages will be italicized.))
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<span class="vip">/Patrem\ 12:35 AM: <i>"Since Patrem is the leader of the cult we should capture him"</i>
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/Patrem\ 12:35 AM: "I would be delighted if you would speak more of these grandiose propositions. Please, if you honestly believe you carry knowledge not of my own understanding, do enlightened me. For surely you and your fellow "Detectives" are supremely powerful beings that I should not trifle with."
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/Patrem\ 12:35 AM: ((A distorted audio file is posted))</span> {{#simple-tooltip-img: http://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/a/ae/Lens.png | Unfortunately, this audio was not archived.}} {{#simple-tooltip-img: http://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/a/ae/Lens.png | This message was originally a Caesar cipher.<br />- Solved by Unknown}}
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Stevey 1:00 AM: "We're the most powerful thing since god my friend. We clearly have no need of these petty games..."
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Archery 1:02 AM: "Ignore his insolence, forgive us father, for we have sinned..."
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GreyouTT 1:08 AM: "Good to know higher beings are still capable of sarcasm. But since you asked, I'll tell you: We may not be powerful beings, but you should never count us out. We have a power of our own."
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<span class="vip">/Patrem\ 1:29 AM: "Then try and wield this power child, see what it gets you in return. If you have some plan to "catch" me, I would be most pleased to see you execute it."</span>
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GreyouTT 2:05 AM: "Tempting, but I think we'll save that for later. For now though, I think it's time us detectives fell off of your radar for a while."
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GreyouTT 2:05 AM: ((The "Stone Mask" and "Gibdo Mask" are both submitted)) {{#simple-tooltip-img: http://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/a/ae/Lens.png | The "Gibdo Mask" is used to disguise the player as an enemy in Majora's Mask.}}
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<span class="vip">/Patrem\ 2:38 AM: "Do you think you have sort of control over me? Do you even understand the power you attempt to wield? Look upon your foe, and kneel."
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/Patrem\ 2:38 AM: ((Patrem posts a photo of himself though it is incredibly distorted))</span> <span class="ext-link">[[File:viewimage.png|frameless|link=http://johnisdead.withinhubris.com/images/9/9d/Handsome.jpg|target=_blank]]</span>
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Stevey 2:46 AM: "More Technical issues.. huh?"
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Archery 4:39 AM: "My word, you're the only handsomest ethereal entity I have ever set my eyes on, what a lovely complexion you have!"
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<span class="vip">/Patrem\ 4:50 AM: "My true intent was to show you the form I currently reside in. However the power radiated from my own presence, and the complexity of delivering such a thing to this place resulted in showing nothing more than my essence, and some scrambled remains. Pity, the sight of my form would have sent you all into quite a bit of turmoil."</span>
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Archery 4:52 AM: "Is the face found in the bottom right corner a remnant of the original image?"
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<span class="vip">/Patrem\ 4:54 AM: "Yes child."</span>
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Archery 4:56 AM: "Apologies about the comments earlier regarding capturing you. On a more serious note, is there any way we can contact Mason, or could you kindly put us in contact with him?"
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<span class="vip">/Patrem\ 5:05 AM: "I found it quite amusing, as it always is, but most certainly it is when you think you can use your toys on me."</span>
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Archery 5:10 AM: "Amusing it might be, but the statement is true, isn't it. You aren't asking us to cower in fear or kneel before you unlike before. If you do not mind, could you answer a few questions we have, including the prior question?"
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Helix 5:12 AM: "Previously I've messaged you a couple of questions though I wasn't sure if it was something you could answer. In /notes, it is said that two of us must die. Is there a reason for this 'sacrifice'? What exactly is "her will"? Is /notes written by doug or you? And, if I may boldly ask again, are you against or for the idea of humans like us ascending?"
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<span class="vip">/Patrem\ 5:20 AM: "I will answer but one final question, I have many things I must attend to and have no time for the incessant babbling of children."</span>
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Archery 5:26 AM: "How can we can contact Mason ourselves? If we are unable to, could you kindly put us in contact with him?"
 +
<span class="vip">/Patrem\ 5:35 AM: "Mason is a foolish child, there is no need for you to contact him. However I shall tell you that he is currently within his own residence. There is more to know of him, but it shall surely come to you in time, you are not infants and I shan't spoon feed you. Now I shall depart, as this child shall soon awaken and I still have tasks to address."</span>
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<p>On <span class="storydate">March 16th, 2015</span>, Patrem finally responded to some of the players' PM's. Though the full context of this conversation was not archived, it is known that Patrem threatened the player GreyouTT's life:</p>
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<p>"I will make falsehood of your life. In any time you should be my foe, know your foe is timeless."</p>
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<p>In response, the player Mugen Kagemaru began publicly taunting Patrem on Within Hubris:</p>
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|count = 83
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|joined = August 15, 2012
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|posted = Mar 16 2015, 10:52 PM
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|postnum = 427
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|post = <poem><div class="WHspoiler">/Patrem\ </div><div class="WHspoilertext">... I will make falsehood of [Greyou's] life.
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...
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... in any time you should be my foe, know your foe is timeless...</div>
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<youtube>https://youtu.be/hPv0LOYt2Gc</youtube>
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Haaaaaah... Ha ha.. Hah!
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And they say empty words are nothing. Fuckers were wrong, that shit's hilarious!
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<span class="edited">Edited by <b>Mugen Kagemaru</b>, Mar 16 2015, 10:53 PM.</span>
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}}
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{{WHEntry
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|user = GreyouTT
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|image = GreyouTT.png
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|group = Players
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|count = 27
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|joined = August 10, 2012
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|posted = Mar 16 2015, 10:59 PM
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|postnum = 428
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|post = <poem>Welp, I'm done for the week.
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Goodbye world.
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<span class="edited">Edited by <b>GreyouTT</b>, Mar 16 2015, 11:12 PM.</span>
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}}
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{{WHEntry
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|user = <span style="color:#82005d !important;">/Patrem\</span>
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|image = WHpatrem.png
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|group = Characters
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|count = 609
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|joined = February 19, 2015
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|posted = Mar 16 2015, 11:18 PM
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|postnum = 429
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|post = <poem><div class="WHspoiler">Quote: </div><div class="WHspoilertext">Haaaaaah... Ha ha.. Hah!
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And they say empty words are nothing. Fuckers were wrong, that shit's hilarious!</div>
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Falsehood of ones life is to say that I shall render ones status of living to now be false, as yours shall soon be, and in the most terrible ways imaginable should you continue to act as though your position with me is any different than the other children. I have watched you speak as though you wield some form of power, remember this well child. The only one in power here is me.
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}}
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{{WHEntry
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|user = Mugen Kagemaru
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|image = WHmug.png
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|group = Players
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|count = 83
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|joined = August 15, 2012
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|posted = Mar 16 2015, 11:23 PM
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|postnum = 430
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|post = <poem><div class="WHspoiler">/Patrem\ <span style="float:right;">Mar 16 2015, 11:18 PM</span></div><div class="WHspoilertext">The only one in power here is me.</div>
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The only one pf this world, perhaps, and therein lies your error.
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<span style="font-weight:bold; color:red !important;">I'M NOT OF THIS WORLD YOU BLIND LITTLE FERRET</span></poem>
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<p>Patrem mocks the player Mugen Kagemaru for his arrogance and childish remarks, though this only results in yet another embarrassing display from Mugen.</p>
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<p>Thankfully, the next day on "<span class="storydate">March 17th, 2015</span>", Mason finally returned to the players with an update.</p>
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<p style="color: rgba(51, 51, 51, 1); font-size:20px; font-family:serif; text-align:center;">3/7/15 - It's been a while</p>
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The story so far...

By 2015, players had accepted that the story of Ben Drowned might never have a conclusion. However, one day they encountered a user named "thelaw" who introduced them to a new website - YSHDT.com. This website contained cryptic files relating to a young man named Doug, who was expressing his regrets for having joined a cult. Players eventually made contact with a past version of Doug from the year 2009 who had only just joined the cult a few days ago. Seeing this as their chance to rescue Doug from his eventual fate, players began attempting to convince Doug to leave the cult. One player named Jacob took a different approach and looked into joining the cult himself. Doug directed Jacob to his friend Mason - another cultist who handles the processing of new recruits.

Meanwhile, players were introduced to Patrem - an imposing entity that seemed to be the leader of Doug's cult. Through various chats on Within Hubris, players learned that Patrem was currently trapped within the body of a cultist. While it's unknown how exactly this happened, Patrem implied that it was the result of some sort of accident that occurred during an important ritual. He also made many cryptic references to a cultist named Vincent, though this individual's significance remained unkown. Patrem seemed to be hunting down the fleeting spirit of Ben, who actually managed to contact the players via Skype under the name "Drown". Players were also introduced to Helper - a friendly spirit who had special delivery-based abilities. With Helper's assistance, players were able to steal Doug's mail and glean more details about his day-to-day activities.

The more players learned about the cult, the more suspicious it became. Doug revealed that the cult's headquarters was an old fishery in rural Florida. The cult was also incredibly secretive and demanded a great deal of loyalty. Regardless, Doug's faith in it was unmoving. Unfortunately, this seemingly led to his downfall. One day out of the blue, Doug made one distressing blog post - "Help".


Table of Contents

Expand the section below to access a table of contents for this chapter.

  1. Start of Chapter
  2. Checkpoint #1After finding a mysterious poem and learning more about Vincent, the players are contacted by a new ally on Letschasethemouse.
  3. Checkpoint #2Though he failed to rescue Doug, Mason managed to avoid being captured. Meanwhile, Helper's accounts begin acting strangely.
  4. Checkpoint #3After re-establishing contact with Helper, the players begin speaking with Patrem once again.


Character Summaries

Expand the section below to access a list of characters. Hover over their icons to view a brief summary covering their current status.


Relevant Characters


Doug

Mason

Patrem

Vincent

Helper

Drown

TheLaw

The Man

BEN




Other Characters


Tyler

John

Jacob

Alex

Old Man

Tyler

Ben

Matt

Rosa

Chris

Spencer

Kevin

Mr. D

Luna

Kelbris

Kayd

Thomas

Quia

Guide




Glossary

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Misc.

/x/

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A

ARG

Ascension



B

Ben Drowned



C

Cipher

Cherrington High

Cleverbot

Contact Page

Cycle



D

Dark Link

Deku Link

Downloadable Files



E

Elegy of Emptiness

Elegy Statue

Epona

Epona's Song



F

Fairy

Father

File 59



G

GM

Goron Link

Guestbook



H

Happy Mask Salesman

Haunted Majora's Mask Cartridge

Hiatus

Hubris

Hubris Game



I

Internet Detectives

Inverted Song of Time

IRC



J

Jadusable

Jadusable's ARG



F

King Kong



L

Lens of Truth

Letschasethemouse

Link

Link.exe

Lostmemory.exe

Luna Prophecy



M

Majora's Mask

Masks

Mask of Truth

Meta

Methods of Revolution

Moon Children

Moon Children Forums



N

New Wave Bossa Nova



O

Oath to Order

OOC



P

Postman's Hat



R

Remember.exe

Rosa



S

Skull Kid

Sonata of Awakening

Song of Healing

Song of Storms

Song of Time

Song of Unhealing

SSTV Signal

Steganography

Stone Mask

Submitting



T

Tenor

The Blackout

The Fishery

The Four Giants

The Glitch

The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask

The Moon

The Ocarina

The Orchard

The Truth

The Whiteout

TheLinkMissing

TheTruth.rtf

Time Links

Transcendence



U

Usekeb



V

Vigil

Vocaroo



W

Wayward Horizon

Whatisben.com

Within Hubris



Y

Youshouldnthavedonethat.net

YSHDT.com



Z

Zora Link



Story

On , Doug posted the following on his blog, Letschasethemouse:

3/3/15


Help

Doug was now in danger. Fearing for his safety, the players began searching for clues. They quickly discovered that the front page of YSHDT.com had updated and now featured a new video - Name.swf".

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This video begins completely black. The four photos seen on the page "http://yshdt.com/vincent" appear one by one. Deku Link's photo is highlighted, but a "No" symbol appears over it when it is selected. The cursor then highlights Zora Link's photo and selects it. The video then cuts to gameplay footage of Majora's Mask featuring the "file select" screen. The first save file is named "Douglas". The cursor then chooses the second save file, which has not been created yet.

Summary

  • This video features the four images found on "https://yshdt.com/vincent".
  • The photo of Deku Link is highlighted as a "NO" symbol appears.
  • The photo of Zora Link is highlighted and selected successfully.
  • The File Select screen from Majora's Mask appears where Doug's save file can be seen.
  • A new save file is created, though it has not yet been named.

This video implies that Doug is currently unavailable as the players' Link. This was compounded by some text that was found on the same webpage - "You must act, for you cannot ‘save’ him". Meanwhile, the player Jacob discovered a new page on YSHDT.com - "http://yshdt.com/notes". This page contained the image notes.png, which contained some fairly cryptic text:


Findings

If another timeline is created, outcomes are inevitable, and cannot be changed.
If multiple lines are merged, chaos ensues.
She has told me of this happening. And it is her will.
They seek to stop her. To cause this merged chaos.
I was a fool to have my doubts.
And that is why she chose me.

There is one among you who is a traitor.
There are two among you who must die.
There are three that are thieving.
And all are waiting.

One of these will be your salvation.
A soul for a soul. An eye for an eye.
Light for dark.
Circles for squares.
Men for women.
Wolves for cats.

Time is like a network.
And networks can be hacked.

This page features a excerpt from someone who was spoken to by Luna - possibly Doug himself. He discusses the creation of multiple different timelines and how the merging of them could lead to chaos - something that Luna herself supposedly wills. However, the players intend on opposing Luna and standing against her.

This is followed by a poem that's directed at the players. This poem warns that one of the players is a traitor, two players must die, three players are thieves, and all of them are waiting. However, one of the following players will be their salvation:

  • A soul for a soul - (Unknown)
  • An eye for an eye - (Unknown)
  • Light - TheSeekerOfLight
  • Dark - Mugen Kagemaru
  • Circles for squares - CircleHunter
  • Men for women - (Unknown)
  • Wolves for cats - Wolfcat

Meanwhile, players discovered that the page "/help" had updated. Instead of just containing one instance of the word "No", it now featured the word copy-and-pasted across the page countless times. Scrolling down far enough would reveal an entire face made up of the word "No".


Using steganography, players discovered a hidden text file within this image titled "Masks.txt".

Your mask is everything.

You wear it when you talk to others.
You wear it during rough times.
And during good times.
You wear it to show what you'd like to be outwardly.
And hide what you are inwardly.

A mask protects your identity. It protects your soul.
It protects you from others, and yourself.

Your mask is everything.




Then...

What are you, without your mask?

It seems as though the concept of masks in relation to the cult are being tied with one's own identity - similar to what Kayd mentioned during Ben Drowned. However, this seems to imply that masks also act as shields protecting an individual's true identity. It then raises the question of what happens to someone when they lose this protection.

Meanwhile, the player Jacob discovered a new page on YSHDT.com - "http://yshdt.com/yes", which was simply titled "r" and saw the surprising return of the red dot. Since its enigmatic appearance on Doug's newspaper article, the red dot had become a bit of a memetic symbol amongst the players. Some even went so far as to give it a name - Fred.


Fred the Red Dot even became a character in the player Wolfcat's webcomic "Weenie-Licked", which parodied various aspects of Within Hubris culture.


Meanwhile, back on Within Hubris, Helper sent several players private messages titled "Hello! You have mail!". These all contained the following image:


These seemed to be more of Doug's notes - this time for his Psychology class. Interestingly, the top-right corner featured a cipher that translated to the following: "You are in danger." While this initially seemed to be a warning directed at the players, it's also possible that this was Doug's subconscious warning him about his own eventual fate.

On , the player Eve submitted the video "Not yet gone", which featured Deku Link being revived from death. This was submitted because the players feared that Doug may have already been killed. However, this theory was seemingly debunked by Patrem:

/Patrem\

"Attempting to breathe life into the living? You amuse me children."


Unsure of what exactly they should do next, the players turned to Patrem for answers. On , he answered as follows:

/Patrem\

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Member: #609
Joined: February 19, 2015

Mar 6th 2015, 01:30 AM Post #N/A

At this moment my child, all we may do is wait. However I have been watching you all, and I see you enjoy playing games. So to amuse myself while I wait, I would like to play a game with the “detectives”. Should you all succeed I will reward you all for your display of wisdom. Tell the children precisely what I have told you now; What is the song that makes mother cry? Speak it then move to the fourth. Wqafi lps bpv npy dfza wyrraamam; You all have 1 hour, and remember, I am watching




The players were given a cipher and a riddle - "What is the song that makes mother cry?" Given that the cult's "Mother" is Luna, tears that fall from the heavens could be symbolic for rain, meaning the song in question would be the "Song of Storms". Using "Song of Storms" as a key, the players were able to solve the cipher and post it's solution on Within Hubris - "Speak now for you have succeeded", leading to the following interaction:

Eve

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Member: #593
Joined: January 23, 2015

Mar 6 2015, 02:40 AM Post #279

Song of Storms
Speak now for you have succeeded



/Patrem\

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Member: #609
Joined: February 19, 2015

Mar 6 2015, 03:02 AM Post #280

http://picosong.com/26BF/



GreyouTT

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Member: #27
Joined: August 10, 2012

Mar 6 2015, 03:31 AM Post #281


With these long ears, we can hear the voices that were unclear to us.



/Patrem\

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Member: #609
Joined: February 19, 2015

Mar 6 2015, 03:44 AM Post #282

http://picosong.com/26Zg/




For their efforts, the players were given an audio file recorded by Patrem. However, due to various distortions, it was very difficult to make out his voice. Thankfully, the players were able to submit the "Bunny Hood" to receive a clearer version of this audio, which is transcribed below:

Children, I’ve been asked “Who is Vincent?” You foolish children have spent quite some time to dive into the matter. However, I shall now unmask what wisdom you may know in time. At this time 'I do not dwell within him. However, now, I shall ((exist / dwell))' within him. After you have ((unintelligible)) the rank of Overseer, the chosen must move forward. ((Some accident / A ceremonial accident )) is essential. A ((section / sanction)) They will be having an Ascension. What the fool said about his soul, and my cruel nature ((unintelligible roar)); Understand detectives… You’ll find the FATHER. Vincent, I’m afraid, must now carry on his journey.

Sadly, Patrem's voice is still very difficult to understand and archives of this audio do not exist.

Patrem seems to be responding to the players' constant inquiries regarding Vincent. Here, he reveals that Vincent is the individual who he was trapped inside of at the fishery. From what we can discern from this audio, it seem as though Patrem became trapped within Vincent at some point after 2009 - likely due to an accident that took place during a cult-related ceremony.

Checkpoint #1

On , Letschasethemouse underwent an odd change. The background changed to a misty photograph of a field and someone other than Doug began using it to contact the players:

3/7/15


I don't have much time, sadly. There's a lot of work to be done.
If anyone happens to be paying attention, feel free to ask anything. I'm sure you have a lot of questions. Otherwise, we will meet soon enough.

-M

An individual simply going by M offers to answer some of the players' questions.

Sengi

The tree int he middle of a plain... covered in fog? Does this revolve around ascending in the cult of Luna?

"M"

I do not know what you mean by "cult".

Player

hello m if you are still here i have a few questions. firstly what brings you to post here, and second hows doug holding up

"M"

Doug is alive, but I don't know how he's doing.



"M" seems somewhat put-off by the assertion that Doug's religion is a cult. They also aren't sure what exactly Doug's doing, though they believe that he's currently still alive. Shortly after this, "M" posted another update:

3/7/15 - Time


Sorry my last post was so urgent.

They took Doug, which I didn't expect. They need him for something, but they won't tell me.

And I need your help, because he's in obvious danger. I don't know what to do.

"M" claims that Doug's been kidnapped by the cult. He fears that Doug is in some sort of danger and isn't sure what to do.

Eve

How can we help you?

"M"

That's for you to tell me.

Player

Who took him? Do you have any idea where? Also, who are you?

"M"

Our group. The fishery. Mason.



"M" reveals that he's actually Mason - Doug's friend who handles the cult's recruitment process. Mason is the same individual who invited Doug into the cult and oversaw Jacob's initiation.

Player

Do you have any other information in regard to Doug getting taken? I want to help in any way I can. Does Vincent have anything to do with this? Do you know who that is?

Mason

Some members took him to a secluded area, and I haven't seen from him. I checked his blog, and saw "help". That's why I know something's up.

We don't have anyone who is named Vincent, as far as I know. That's a good name, though.



Strangely, Mason claims he doesn't know of anyone named Vincent within the cult. This implies that Vincent likely joined the cult at some point after 2009.

Eve

Can you go to the fishery? Record what happens and everything you see and hear, in case we need to go to the authorities.

Mason

I can try, though I'm worried they won't like me getting close.



The players suggest that Mason travels to the Fishery in the hopes of finding out exactly what happened to Doug. However, they realized that Mason might need some extra help. This entire conversation is archived below:

Mason Blog Comments

Time
Sorry my last post was so urgent.

They took Doug, which I didn't expect. They need him for something, but they won't tell me. And I need your help, because he's in obvious danger. I don't know what to do.


Comments:

8:31 PM Wickedlady4180: "How can we help you?"
8:32 PM DandP: "That's for you to tell me."

8:39 PM Anonymous: "Who took him? Do you have any idea where? Also, who are you?"
8:42 PM DandP: "Our group. The fishery. Mason."
8:44 PM ADU: "Do you have any idea why they would have taken Doug?"
8:45 PM DandP: ""They took Doug, which I didn't expect. They need him for something, but they won't tell me."?"
8:45 PM ADU: "oh yeah... I dont notice things ._."

8:51 PM Anonymous: "Do you have any other information in regard to Doug getting taken? I want to help in any way I can. Does Vincent have anything to do with this? Do you know who that is?"
8:53 PM DandP: "Some members took him to a secluded area, and I haven't seen from him. I checked his blog, and saw "help". That's why I know something's up. We don't have anyone who is named Vincent, as far as I know. That's a good name, though."

8:53 PM Wickedlady4180: "Can you go to the fishery? Record what happens and everything you see and hear, in case we need to go to the authorities."
9:15 PM DandP: "I can try, though I'm worried they won't like me getting close."

Back on Within Hubris, the player ADULT_LINK submitted the "New Wave Bossa Nova" in an attempt to summon an ally for Mason. This led to the following interaction:

ADULT_LINK

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Member: #536
Joined: May 13, 2014

Mar 7 2015, 09:01 PM Post #285



Helper

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Member: #612
Joined: February 23, 2015

Jan 22 2015, 08:44 PM Post #286

Do you have need of assistance, adventurer?




Using The Ocarina, the players managed to summon Helper - the entity that previously delivered them Doug's mail and Psychology notes.

Eve

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Member: #593
Joined: January 23, 2015

Mar 7 2015, 09:03 PM Post #287

We need to help Douglas, how can we?



Helper

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Member: #612
Joined: February 23, 2015

Mar 7 2015, 09:05 PM Post #288

I'm not particularly sure. Has he lost his mail?



ADULT_LINK

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Member: #536
Joined: May 13, 2014

Mar 7 2015, 09:07 PM Post #289

No, he seems to have gone missing. He may have lost his mail as well though.



Helper

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Member: #612
Joined: February 23, 2015

Mar 7 2015, 09:10 PM Post #290

Ooh, that's droll. I may be able to find him, which will take me a fair bit.
However, I will find the perpetrator who has taken his mail! Thank you for bringing this information to light, adventurer!



TheSeekerOfLight

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Member: #44
Joined: August 10, 2012

Mar 7 2015, 09:10 PM Post #291

Dont forget his marbles.



Helper

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Member: #612
Joined: February 23, 2015

Mar 7 2015, 09:12 PM Post #292

That reminds me of when I was a child, fair maiden!
I used to love my marbles, with small hornets encased inside.



Mugen Kagemaru

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Member: #83
Joined: August 15, 2012

Mar 7 2015, 09:14 PM Post #293

Beware the Twelfth Tribe, they observe too much.



Helper

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Member: #612
Joined: February 23, 2015

Mar 7 2015, 09:17 PM Post #294

That's dumb.




Helper agrees to locate Doug. However, true to character, he seems more interested in the well-being of his mail...

Dawn Of a New Day

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Member: #3
Joined: August 10, 2012

Mar 7 2015, 09:18 PM Post #296

How heavy is the package that you carry? WHjad.png



Helper

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Member: #612
Joined: February 23, 2015

Mar 7 2015, 09:20 PM Post #297

I am not currently in possession of any package.

However, I assure you that I deliver quite large packages, demon.



Dawn Of a New Day

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Joined: August 10, 2012

Mar 7 2015, 09:22 PM Post #300

Helper Mar 7 2015, 09:20 PM
demon.

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Helper

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Member: #612
Joined: February 23, 2015

Mar 7 2015, 09:24 PM Post #301

You know why, villain.

You seek to create what the others do not.



wickedlady4180

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Member: #593
Joined: January 23, 2015

Mar 7 2015, 09:25 PM Post #302

Helper, if you find our friend Douglas. Can you deliver him to his home?



Mugen Kagemaru

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Member: #83
Joined: August 15, 2012

Mar 7 2015, 09:25 PM Post #303

What would that be?



Helper

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Member: #612
Joined: February 23, 2015

Mar 7 2015, 09:28 PM Post #304

wickedlady4180 Mar 7 2015, 09:25 PM
Helper, if you find our friend Douglas. Can you deliver him to his home?

I am not sure he would be able to survive with a lack of oxygen, maiden.

Mugen Kagemaru
What would that be?

The near opposite of what you wish, adventurer.



Mugen Kagemaru

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Member: #83
Joined: August 15, 2012

Mar 7 2015, 09:31 PM Post #306

And what would be the near opposite of what we wish?



Helper

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Member: #612
Joined: February 23, 2015

Mar 7 2015, 09:35 PM Post #307

Obviously the near opposite of what you wish, adventurer!




Strangely, Helper calls the player Dawn a "Demon". When asked the reason for this, Helper claims that Dawn "seeks to create what the others do not", implying that his goals differed from that of the other players. This is possibly a reference to how Dawn would often joke about wanting to kill Doug.

Helper

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Member: #612
Joined: February 23, 2015

Mar 7 2015, 09:35 PM Post #308

I have found what you seek. DAMAGED. He is where you imagined he would be, adventurer.



Helper

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Member: #612
Joined: February 23, 2015

Mar 7 2015, 09:39 PM Post #311

i am not a hero



Mugen Kagemaru

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Member: #83
Joined: August 15, 2012

Mar 7 2015, 09:47 PM Post #312

Are you a savior?



Helper

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Member: #612
Joined: February 23, 2015

Mar 7 2015, 09:58 PM Post #313

DED HELPER (RIP).jpg



wickedlady4180

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Member: #593
Joined: January 23, 2015

Mar 7 2015, 10:09 PM Post #314

Helper? Are you still here?



Helper

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Member: #612
Joined: February 23, 2015

Mar 7 2015, 10:10 PM Post #315

wickedlady4180 Mar 7 2015, 10:09 PM
Helper? Are you still here?

That insect has been dealt with.




Helper suddenly begins speaking very differently - now utilizing ciphers and cryptic sentences. He eventually posts an SSTV signal revealing the Postman's Hat laying in a pool of blood. This implies that Helper travelled to the fishery as requested by the players but was unfortunately killed. Back on Letschasethemouse, the players continued chatting with Mason:

Player

Are you still there, friend?

Mason

Yes. I'm not dumb enough to run off without help, though I am watching the building now.

I saw another person jog past, and the yells were terrible. This isn't right.



Mason claims he witnessed someone jog into the fishery and scream - possibly Helper moments before he died.

Mason

There are about four men outside the building, as far as I can tell.

I'd take a picture, if I had a good enough camera for it. I can't see much else than the fishery and the people.

A bit ago I watched a few other people running around, but couldn't make anything out.

Eve

Get as close as you can, without putting yourself in danger and tell us what you see? Please be careful.

Mason

I'm in danger just being here. The only reason they don't see me is because I'm low to the ground, and it's dark.

I'm feeling bad about this. Something's up. I hear chanting.

Eve

Can you make out any of the chanting? Leave if its not safe. Dont be there longer than you need to.

Mason

No, I cannot. It's not anything I've ever heard before, even during our usual processions. I don't want to stand up, in case someone spots me.



Mason says he can hear some chanting coming from the fishery, though it's not any sort of chanting that he's familiar with. This implies that some sort of ceremony might be taking place.

KendoSF

Do you see anything near them that might cause a loud noise when hit? Maybe like a bell or a glass bottle maybe?

Mason

No, there's nothing that would cause a loud noise if I were to hit it.

There are rocks all over I guess I could throw, though. Right now I'm in a more forested part.

KendoSF

Okay, try throwing a rock towards the other side of them. Get them to think you're in the other direction.

Mason

Alright, I'm going to try and throw a rock.



The player KendoSF convinces Mason to throw a rock to distract the guards at the fishery. This full conversation is archived below:

Mason Blog Comments

9:14 PM Anonymous: "We have someone looking for Doug."
10:13 PM Anonymous: "Are you still there?"
10:14 PM Anonymous: "Are you still there, friend?"
10:17 PM DandP: "Yes. I'm not dumb enough to run off without help, though I am watching the building now. I saw another person jog past, and the yells were terrible. This isn't right."
10:29 PM Anonymous: "What can you see?"
10:34 PM DandP: "There are about four men outside the building, as far as I can tell. I'd take a picture, if I had a good enough camera for it. I can't see much else than the fishery and the people. A bit ago I watched a few other people running around, but couldn't make anything out."
10:38 PM Anonymous: "Get as close as you can, without putting yourself in danger and tell us what you see? Please be careful."
10:40 PM DandP: "I'm in danger just being here. The only reason they don't see me is because I'm low to the ground, and it's dark. I'm feeling bad about this. Something's up. I hear chanting."
10:52 PM Anonymous: "Can you make out any of the chanting? Leave if its not safe. Dont be there longer than you need to."
10:55 PM DandP: "No, I cannot. It's not anything I've ever heard before, even during our usual processions. I don't want to stand up, in case someone spots me."
10:57 PM Anonymous: "Please be careful."

11:08 PM KendoSF: "Mason, we have an idea, but you have to stay hidden until we give you the signal alright?"
11:13 PM DandP: "Alright."
11:24 PM Wickedlady4180: "Ok, try to get closer. We think you won't be seen now."
11:25 PM KendoSF: "Okay Mason, describe your surroundings. Do you see anything near them that might cause a loud noise when hit? Maybe like a bell or a glass bottle maybe?"
11:27 PM DandP: ((This message was deleted.))
11:28 PM DandP: "No, there's nothing that would cause a loud noise if I were to hit it. There are rocks all over I guess I could throw, though. Right now I'm in a more forested part."

11:30 PM KendoSF: "Okay, try throwing a rock towards the other side of them. Get them to think you're in the other direction."
11:31 PM DandP: "Alright, I'm going to try and throw a rock."
11:39 PM Wickedlady4180: "Did they see you? Are you ok, Mason?"
11:39 PM KendoSF: "Mason talk to me, are they following your movements. Do they actually see you?"

Shortly after this, Mason made another post:

3/7/15


I think I'm safe.
After they saw me, they took a good look and chased after me.

I can't see them anymore, so I think I'm good. I don't know what happened with them.
All this running is making me tired.

KendoSF

Take a break and stay hidden Mason. We need to rethink our plan of attack.

Mason

alright. im getting way tired anyways. gonna sleep



Unfortunately, Mason was spotted by the guards at the fishery and fled into the woods. Thankfully, he's managed to evade them and is now presumably on his way home to get some rest.

Checkpoint #2

On , Helper's account on Within Hubris underwent an ominous change. His avatar changed to a distorted image of a moon as he posted the following video:

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This video begins with gameplay footage of Majora's Mask. We are shown the creation of a new save file named "Mason", which is then selected. The video then cuts to in-game footage of Zora Link standing near Termina Field. The Postman's Hat and Picto Box can be seen in his inventory. Zora Link then exits the area.

Summary

  • Unfortunately, this video was not archived.
  • This video contained gameplay footage of Majora's Mask featuring a new save file being created named "Mason".
  • The file is selected, cutting to footage of Zora Link standing in Termina Field while possessing the Postman's Hat and the Picto Box.

While this video was unfortunately not archived, it confirmed that Mason was the players' new Link, replacing Doug. Strangely, he seemed to possess the Postman's Hat in his inventory - an item that's usually representative of Helper. Speaking of Helper, it's strange that his account was active at all, as he was seemingly killed the day prior. Also, this video was uploaded to a new YouTube account simply named "M". At first, players assumed that this stood for "Mason". However, due to the account's association with Helper, they later agreed that it stood for "Messenger".

As the players began to realize the gravity of Helper's death, they began mourning him. One player in particular, Wolfcat, made the following joke post on Within Hubris. However, this had some surprising results...

Wolfcat

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Mar 8 2015, 02:32 AM Post #325

Thank you for all your help, Helper.
You were too innocent for this world.



Helper

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Member: #612
Joined: February 23, 2015

Mar 8 2015, 02:35 AM Post #326

Wolfcat Mar 8 2015, 02:32 AM
Thank you for all your help, Helper.
You were too innocent for this world.

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CircleHunter

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Member: #35
Joined: August 10, 2012

Mar 8 2015, 02:37 AM Post #327

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME



Oceanstuck

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Member: #595
Joined: February 3, 2015

Mar 8 2015, 02:38 AM Post #328

HWAT



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Member: #54
Joined: August 11, 2012

Mar 8 2015, 02:42 AM Post #329

beautiful~

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ADULT_LINK

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Member: #536
Joined: May 13, 2014

Mar 8 2015, 02:51 AM Post #330

Helper Mar 8 2015, 02:35 AM
Wolfcat Mar 8 2015, 02:32 AM
Thank you for all your help, Helper.
You were too innocent for this world.

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Wolfcat's joke submission of "Hide and Seek" by Imogen Heap was not only accepted, but fully successful, as Helper's account posted an image of the Yu-Gi-Oh card "Soul Release", implying that he had been revived. This was confirmed later in the day when Helper suddenly joined the Internet Detectives Skype group.

Helper

Hello adventurers!

ADULT_LINK

Hi helper! :D

Wolfcat

Hello!

Archery 2000

hi!

CircleHunter

Hey!

Helix 236

hi

Jacob

Helper!

Kidpichu

oh hello ^-^

Helper

You seem to be excited to meet me.

Again.



The players all eagerly greet Helper, happy to see him.

Helper

Sadly, I am no longer a messanger.

ADULT_LINK

did you lose your hat?

Helper

Yes, I have lost an important part of my person, adventurer.

Jacob

helper, Im happy that you are alive.

Helper

I do not feel alive.

I do not have a person any longer.

I am without a body. A most peculiar predicament.



Though Helper has been "revived", he now seems to be missing his hat - presumably the same Postman's Hat seen laying in the pool of blood that was now in Mason's possession. The hat seems very important to Helper - so much so that he refers to it as a part of his very being. He also claims that he currently lacks a body, possibly existing solely as a disembodied spirit.

Helper also claims that he's no longer a "Messenger" - likely due to the loss of his hat. Because of this, players theorized that there was a direct connection between Helper's Hat and his various accounts - including the "M", or "Messenger" YouTube channel, meaning whoever possesses Helper's Hat holds control over these accounts.

GreyouTT

Must be hard to chat on skype from the spirit world.

Helper

Skype?

What is skype?

Your questions clog my ears, adventurers.



Strangely, Helper seems to be unaware of what Skype is despite the fact that he's using it to speak with the players. This, combined with the fact that Helper seems to be hearing the players' messages audibly, implies that Helper perceives digital communication as though it were happening in-person - likely due to his status as an otherworldly ethereal being. A full archive of this conversation can be found below:

Chat with Helper

[4:00:22 PM] *** Helper joined. ***
[4:00:35 PM] *** Kidpichu is confused ***
[4:00:36 PM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: helper?
[4:00:37 PM] Wolfcat: We should Mass Debate together over this issue
[4:00:37 PM] Archery 2000: o.m.g.
[4:00:48 PM] Archery 2000: they really are listening to the chat
[4:00:57 PM] Helper: Hello adventurers!
[4:00:58 PM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Hi helper! :D
[4:01:00 PM] Wolfcat: Hello!
[4:01:01 PM] Archery 2000: hi!
[4:01:03 PM] Captain Desdinova: Hey!
[4:01:04 PM] Kidpichu: XD
[4:01:09 PM] Helix 236: hi
[4:01:10 PM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: so what happened?
[4:01:12 PM] Le lune 'Jayckup': Helper!
[4:01:14 PM] Archery 2000: who is the postman?
[4:01:14 PM] Kidpichu: oh hello ^-^
[4:01:24 PM] Helper: You seem to be excited to meet me.
[4:01:25 PM] Grey: What was that pixie picture I don't even
[4:01:32 PM] Archery 2000: yes we are
[4:01:33 PM] Helper: Again.
[4:01:33 PM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Indeed we are
[4:01:42 PM] Archery 2000: indeed
[4:01:45 PM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: so what happened a while ago
[4:01:56 PM] Kidpichu: are you well?
[4:02:11 PM] eve sim: Hi, sorry I killed you
[4:02:13 PM] Wolfcat: Are you dead?
[4:02:29 PM] Skype: do you like yugioh?
[4:02:54 PM] *** Skype gives helper premium ***
[4:03:09 PM] Helper: Sadly, I am no longer a messanger.
[4:03:12 PM] *** Skype premium ***
[4:03:23 PM | Edited 4:03:29 PM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: did you lose your hat?
[4:03:23 PM] Grey: I actually haven't met you before Helper. So I can be excited if I want.
[4:03:33 PM] Archery 2000: did you lose your hat?
[4:03:56 PM] Kidpichu: why?
[4:04:30 PM] Helper: Yes, I have lost an important part of my person, adventurer.
[4:04:35 PM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Aww, that sucks
[4:04:35 PM] Le lune 'Jayckup': helper, Im happy that you are alive.
[4:04:44 PM] Le lune 'Jayckup': Can we get it back?
[4:04:49 PM] Helper: I do not feel alive.
[4:04:54 PM] Helix 236: can we help you get it back?
[4:05:00 PM] Archery 2000: can we help you?
[4:05:10 PM] Helper: I do not have a person any longer.
[4:05:18 PM] Le lune 'Jayckup': How do you mean?
[4:05:21 PM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Were you ascended?
[4:05:24 PM] Skype: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVTXPUF4Oz4
[4:05:27 PM] Le lune 'Jayckup': Ill give you a person.
[4:05:29 PM] Archery 2000: who was your person?
[4:05:29 PM] Kidpichu: D:
[4:05:38 PM] Wolfcat: Such as in masks.txt I'm guessing
[4:05:41 PM] eve sim: Again, I'm sorry.
[4:05:52 PM] Helper: I am without a body. A most peculiar predicament.
[4:06:11 PM] Grey: Must be hard to chat on skype from the spirit world.
[4:06:45 PM] Helper: I do not know what has happened to me.
[4:06:46 PM] Archery 2000: what is the last thing you recall from when you have your body?
[4:06:47 PM] Wolfcat: Who sent you to the shadow realm? [4:06:50 PM] Archery 2000: ah I see
[4:07:15 PM] eve sim: Can we help you somehow?
[4:07:36 PM] Helix 236: did something happen when you sleep?
[4:07:43 PM] Archery 2000: is there anything you can recall that might help us aid you?
[4:07:52 PM] Helper: I do not remember much past yesterday.
[4:07:59 PM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: I'm sorry D;
[4:08:03 PM] Archery 2000: what was the last thing you were doing?
[4:08:05 PM] Le lune 'Jayckup': Do you remember your name?
[4:09:21 PM] Helper: Skype?
[4:09:32 PM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: ?
[4:09:38 PM] Le lune 'Jayckup': What about skype?
[4:09:39 PM] Skype: yes?
[4:09:50 PM] *** Skype updates ***
[4:09:54 PM] Archery 2000: lol
[4:09:56 PM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: lol
[4:10:00 PM] Captain Desdinova: lol
[4:10:00 PM] Wolfcat: I'm guessing you don't know what medium you're speaking to us in
[4:10:22 PM] Helper: What is skype?
[4:10:44 PM] Skype: http://zeldawiki.org/images/thumb/7/7b/MM3D_Postman%27s_Hat.png/745px-MM3D_Postman%27s_Hat.png
[4:10:52 PM] Wolfcat: It's how we are communicating with you, no big deal.
[4:10:58 PM] Helper: Your questions clog my ears, adventurers.
[4:11:07 PM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Sorry about that
[4:11:19 PM] Helix 236: yeah We're sorry T.T
[4:12:01 PM] Archery 2000: do these numbers make any sense?
[4:12:02 PM] Archery 2000: 25 11 17 14
[4:12:48 PM] Archery 2000: well, I was looking at the message that was unsolved, and those are the numbers needed to make sense of each word from Caesar shifting
[4:13:14 PM] Helper: I am a corporeal spirit. Not a mathematician.
[4:13:23 PM] Archery 2000: apologies
[4:13:53 PM] eve sim: Helper, how can we help you?
[4:13:54 PM | Removed 4:14:52 PM] Wolfcat: This message has been removed.
[4:14:24 PM] Kidpichu: guys one at a time XD
[4:16:49 PM] Archery 2000: helper, are you still there?
[4:17:43 PM] Helper: I do not imagine you will be able to help me, adventurers.
[4:17:54 PM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: D;
[4:19:06 PM] Grey: Do you know how we can help Mason?
[4:20:17 PM] Helper: Mason is in no need of help currently, adventurer. The ones in need of help are yourselves.
[4:20:25 PM] Archery 2000: How can we help ourselves?
[4:21:05 PM] Helper: By helping yourselves, of course!
[4:21:22 PM] Grey: There is logic in what he says.
[4:21:37 PM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: What is it we need help with?
[4:21:48 PM] Helper: Everything.
[4:21:52 PM] Wolfcat: Helper, can you tell us what all you remember before becoming a spirit? If anything at all.
[4:21:53 PM] Captain Desdinova: I love you, Helper

Over the next few days, oddities regarding Helper's previous accounts continued. The videos "S" and "R" were uploaded on and respectively.

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This video simply consists of dark footage of someone walking down a snowy sidewalk at night.

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This video begins with dark footage of someone walking along a sidewalk at night. There's snow on the ground and the path is covered in ice. The video cuts to footage of the neighborhood. The sky has a reddish glow due to distant city lights. The video is suddenly interrupted by loud static before cutting back to the sidewalk. The cameraman is now running. The static briefly returns as the cameraman turns around. The cameraman comes to a stop as a shadowy entity can be seen in the distance. Two glowing eyes then appear on the figure as the video cuts to black. A deep voice can be heard before the video ends.

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  • This video seems to be a continuation of "S".
  • The person walking down the snowy sidewalk panics and begins running before encountering a shadowy figure with glowing eyes.

The players theorized that these videos were being recorded from Mason's perspective since he was the one who currently possessed Helper's Hat. Believing that Mason might be in danger, the player Stevey submitted the "Song of Soaring" - a song from Majora's Mask that would teleport the player to various Owl Statues found in-game.

In the meantime, on , YSHDT.com underwent several changes that were seemingly related to Doug. The front page now featured an image of Deku Link's eyes titled "eyes.bmp" and text that read "It's lonely out here". This page also featured audio of someone struggling to breathe. Due to Doug's connection with Deku Link, this had some worrying connotations. Strangely, an orange-colored snowy environment could also be found within "eyes.bmp" via steganography. The significance of this location was unknown, however.

Players discovered that "/news" had also updated. The page now featured "spire.jpg" - a photo of a large, imposing building covered in fog. Accompanying this image was the audio "mumble.wav", which contained a strange robotic voice slowly reading out the following:

Mason, you are a bane on my existence now. In the past, you were an ally. In the future, you are my foe. You’ve done great things for us, and also terrible things. It’s time to hunt you down and finish what I started in 2009.

This threatening message seemed to be from a modern-day Doug from 2015 - one who was now fully devoted to Luna and intent on taking down both Mason and the players, as hinted at in "notes.png". The rest of YSHDT.com wasn't any less concerning, with "/them" being updated with "knownlocations.jpg", revealing the locations of several prominent players. The page "/no" also updated, now featuring many screaming faces. A new page titled "https://yshdt.com/yes" was also discovered, which featured the iconic red dot, though it was now much larger in size.

Suspicious that something may be hidden within "eyes.bmp", the player GreyouTT submitted the "Lens of Truth" - An item from Majora's Mask that reveals hidden secrets. Shortly after this, Helper's former account responded by posting a clearer version of the image on Within Hubris - one that held hidden images in its eyes. The left eye now hid an image of "The Gray Man" - a character originating from the game "LSD: Dream Emulator" that the player CircleHunter often used as his avatar. The right eye hid text that read "Azure Rebirth", which was the name of an old project that the player Mugen Kagemaru was involved in.

The players were confused as to why two of their allies were being called out. Hoping to find some answers, the player Mugen Kagemaru directly PM'd Helper asking about the "Azure Rebirth" reference. Meanwhile, the others attempted to summon Patrem by having the player ADULT_LINK submit the "New Wave Bossa Nova" on . In the meantime, Helper once again began chatting with the players via Skype.

Helper

I may have some information you might need during your future endeavors.

The one you call mason is still alive.

Archery 2000

is he in trouble?

Helper

Absolutely not.

He happens to be doing nothing.

Archery 2000

do you know how our friend Doug is?

Helper

Doug is, as far as I know, still in his prison.

The fishery.



Helper claims that Mason is safe and presumably at home, much to the players' relief. Doug, however, is still in the same situation as before.

Mugen Kagemaru

Helper did you get my message earlier?

Helper

I have not gotten your message, adventurer.

For I am not in possession of my hat.

I am no longer a messenger.

The one in possession of the hat can share messages.

Mugen Kagemaru

I have sent messages, Helper. Messages addressed to you. Did you receive them?

Helper

I do not understand your tongue.

I am no longer the messenger.

Mugen Kagemaru

They are not for you to pass along

They are for you to peruse

Helper

The messenger has gotten them. You are trying my patience, adventurer, I have explained such.

Mugen Kagemaru

It is my belief that I am not correctly wording my question. I am trying to correct this problem.

Helper

I understand your question, rude one. I am not an idiot.

The one who owns the hat is the messenger.

The messenger may relay messages across time and space.

Mugen Kagemaru

Um, let me try this. Uh, Helper? Did the Messenger give you any messages from me?

Helper

I have not gotten any messages, adventurer.

The messenger gets the messages. They relay the messages.

I have spoken such three times now.

It is the job of the messanger to do such things as giving you chances to relay. I am not he.

GreyouTT

We believe Mason has the hat

Helper

Then he is the messenger.

Oceanstuck

how do we gain contact with him

Helper

I do not know.

For I, once again, am not the messenger.

Spirkiroid

what's the meaning of the image you posted in the thread?

Helper

I have not given you any image.



Helper and the players have a somewhat confusing conversation regarding the mechanics of Helper's Hat. The player Mugen Kagemaru repeatedly asks Helper if he received his private message on Within Hubris. Helper explains that he no longer has access to his various accounts, only the "Messenger" does - the individual who currently possesses his hat. Interestingly, Helper also notes that Messengers are capable of sending messages across time and space.

Archery 2000

Helper, is there any meaning when you call us hero/heroes/heroine?

Helper

Young archer, a rock will always be a rock, no matter what you happen to call it.

However, the demons seek to drive you off your course.

Be wary.

Archery 2000

are there still only two demons here?

Helper

I believe there are three now.

One more by the name of link.

ADULT_LINK

what

wait I am a demon?

Helper

This is only my opinion on the subject.

Mando

Can I get a list of all known demons

ADULT_LINK

Circle, Dawn, and i guess Me

Helper

The potential demon speaks the truth.



Helper elaborates on why he calls some players "demons". He explains that demons are individuals who attempt to drive the players off course and presumably hinder their progression through the ARG. He also reveals that there are now three demons within the Internet Detectives - the players CircleHunter, Dawn, and ADULT_LINK. However, Helper admits that he labels individuals as demons solely based on his opinion, so this classification may not be as objective as players first believed.

Helper

I will allow one last question from the rude one.

But only to give him a chance to redeem himself.

Mugen Kagemaru

What is the goal of your current journey?

Helper

He has not redeemed himself.

GreyouTT

Saw that coming.

Oceanstuck

this revelation surprises no one

Helper

I stated in the beginning, and throughout my replies, that I still no longer have my body, and am in search of it.

Eve

Helper, what was your last word of advice?

Helper

Remember that, while you change events in the past, the future may also contact you. Also, the rude one is very rude, and also easily intimidated at the mention of their past. This goes for your member, and theirs.

I think that statement sets us at even odds, the one who calls themself Mugen.



Helper and the player Mugen Kagemaru continue bickering. However, he leaves the players with a warning - though they are currently interacting with the past, individuals from the future may also contact them. This is possibly referencing the message from the modern-day 2015 Doug found on YSHDT.com. A full archive of this conversation can be found below:

Chat with Helper

[10:03:07 AM] *** Helper joined. ***
[10:03:15 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: !!!
[10:03:26 AM] Helper: Hello adventurers.
[10:03:36 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: hi helper
[10:04:06 AM] Helper: I would be pleased to know if you've found any leads on the whereabouts of my hat.
[10:05:19 AM] Wolfcat: I believe we know who has your hat, but we haven't been able to contact him yet.
[10:06:12 AM] Helper: I see.
[10:06:18 AM] Grey: Helper! You're back!
[10:06:33 AM] Helper: Hello, tactician!
[10:06:43 AM] Archery 2000: hey helper!
[10:06:46 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: so helper
[10:06:51 AM] Archery 2000: way to go! first thing I see when I wake up ^^
[10:06:53 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: any luck getting your body back?
[10:07:42 AM] Mando 寒山: Yo yo yo
[10:07:48 AM] Helper: I have not, sadly.
[10:08:02 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: aw
[10:08:09 AM] Mando 寒山: What's up helpman
[10:08:43 AM] Helper: Not my spirits, sadly.
[10:09:01 AM] Archery 2000: did something happen?
[10:09:21 AM] Mando 寒山: I have some free bodies if you want any
[10:09:23 AM] Helper: I do not have a body.
[10:10:00 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: any way we could help?
[10:10:27 AM] Helper: I do not see how, adventurer.
[10:10:40 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: darn
[10:11:02 AM] Grey: How will we get your hat back to you once we find it?
[10:11:02 AM] Mando 寒山: Where's your body now
[10:11:05 AM] Helper: However, I may have some information you might need during your future endeavors.
[10:11:13 AM] Archery 2000: and that might be?
[10:11:18 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: mando, not the time
[10:11:23 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: we can explain later
[10:11:45 AM] Mando 寒山: Sure, lay it on us
[10:11:54 AM] Helper: I do not know, adventurer. If I knew where my body was, I would be in possession of it.
[10:12:15 AM] Archery 2000: helper, what is the information you have for us?
[10:13:42 AM] Helper: The one you call mason is still alive.
[10:13:59 AM] Archery 2000: is he in trouble?
[10:14:09 AM] Helper: Absolutely not.
[10:14:20 AM] Helper: He happens to be doing nothing.

[10:14:32 AM] Eve Sim: That's good to know.
[10:14:41 AM] Grey: thank goodness he's alive
[10:14:46 AM] Archery 2000: is he unable to do anything? or is it his choice to do nothing?
[10:15:00 AM] Helper: I imagine it is his choice.
[10:15:08 AM] Eve Sim: I have a question.
[10:15:21 AM] Helper: Yes, adventurer?
[10:15:46 AM] Eve Sim: Do you know if "The Vile Man" will be back soon?
[10:16:21 AM] Oceanstuck: quickly refreshes yshdt thread out of curiosity
[10:16:32 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: ocean, helper is back!
[10:16:40 AM] Helper: I do not know of which vile man you speak.
[10:16:44 AM] Oceanstuck: finds an image with the words "azure rebirth" hidden in it and moogen flipping his shit
[10:16:45 AM] Archery 2000: patrem
[10:16:45 AM] Eve Sim: Patrem
[10:16:57 AM] Oceanstuck: o hai helper
[10:17:35 AM] Helper: His actions are far outside what I will ever be able to perceive.
[10:17:47 AM] Helper: So no.

[10:17:58 AM] Eve Sim: Ok, thank you.
[10:18:02 AM] Mando 寒山: Oh, I got my internet back. Cool
[10:18:24 AM] Mando 寒山: Okay so does this Azure Rebirth stuff have anything to do with whatever forum Mugen made or is this a coincidence
[10:19:00 AM] Helper: Azure Rebirth?
[10:19:16 AM] Oceanstuck: shrugs thats what it said
[10:19:33 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Helper, im not sure how we could explain it to you without confusing you
[10:19:40 AM] Archery 2000: helper, do you know how our friend Doug is?
[10:19:45 AM] Grey: It was hidden in a clue we found.
[10:20:02 AM] Archery 2000: so azure rebirth was hidden in eyes
[10:20:07 AM] Helper: I do not know of any Azure Rebirth.
[10:20:11 AM] Oceanstuck: whats this azure rebirth thing mean anyway
[10:20:17 AM] Oceanstuck: those of you who actually know
[10:20:43 AM] *** Oceanstuck added Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙) ***
[10:20:52 AM | Removed 10:21:10 AM] Archery 2000: This message has been removed.
[10:20:52 AM] Helper: Doug is, as far as I know, still in his prison.
[10:21:02 AM] Archery 2000: I see, is there anything we can do to help him?
[10:21:03 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: his prison?
[10:21:23 AM] Helper: The fishery.
[10:21:27 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: ah.
[10:21:29 AM] Oceanstuck: describe the fishery
[10:21:38 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): Helper did you get my message earlier?
[10:21:44 AM] Helper: My memories are still a little fuzzy.
[10:21:55 AM] Oceanstuck: try the best you can
[10:22:00 AM] Helper: It seemed to be a run down building.
[10:22:13 AM] Helper: I do not know how else to describe it.

[10:22:18 AM] Oceanstuck: oh
[10:22:20 AM] Oceanstuck: well you tried
[10:22:31 AM] Helper: I have not gotten your message, adventurer.
[10:22:38 AM] Archery 2000: is there anything we can do to help doug?
[10:22:46 AM] Helper: For I am not in possession of my hat.
[10:22:58 AM] Helper: I am no longer a messenger.

[10:23:01 AM] Mando 寒山: [10:21 AM] Helper: <<< It seemed to be a run down building.I do not know how else to describe it.Are there any defining characteristics you can remember? Cars, a sign, etc.
[10:23:02 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): Helper, check your Private Messages on here and the forum
[10:23:06 AM] Oceanstuck: hey has anyone asked about that image with a bunch of our states of residence on it
[10:23:09 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): The message is for you
[10:23:13 AM] Helper: There were no cars or signs.
[10:23:27 AM] Mando 寒山: How did you know it was a fishery
[10:23:27 AM] Helper: It was near a forested area, I believe.
[10:23:28 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: the one who we believe to have your had has not been in contact with us for a while
[10:23:50 AM] Helper: Because it was a fishery, adventurer!
[10:24:08 AM] Helper: This is most odd.

[10:24:15 AM] Archery 2000: what is?
[10:24:15 AM] Oceanstuck: helper i suggest you try to cut down on the tautologies
[10:24:18 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: what is?
[10:24:23 AM] Helper: You have gotten messages, yes?
[10:24:33 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): No
[10:24:37 AM] Archery 2000: supposedly from you?
[10:24:38 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: from whom?
[10:24:58 AM] Helper: None whatsoever? Not even a video, picture, or hint?
[10:25:12 AM] Oceanstuck: what kind of messages are we talking
[10:25:17 AM] Helper: None other than the messenger, adventurer.
[10:25:18 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): Nothing we could consider as such, no.
[10:25:30 AM] Helper: I have just listed them, heroine.
[10:25:39 AM] Oceanstuck: oh
[10:25:42 AM] Oceanstuck: heroine, huh
[10:25:47 AM] Helper: This is most odd indeed.
[10:25:47 AM] Oceanstuck: i like the sound of that
[10:25:50 AM] Oceanstuck: ^.^
[10:25:50 AM] Grey: Do you mean the videos with that weird shadow?
[10:25:55 AM] Archery 2000: I suppose some could have received messages?
[10:25:59 AM] Wolfcat: Do you mean, 'M'? Are they our Messenger?
[10:26:10 AM] Helper: The one in possession of the hat can share messages.
[10:26:17 AM] Oceanstuck: mason?
[10:26:22 AM] Oceanstuck: huh
[10:26:26 AM] Archery 2000: you have been quite active for the past few days
[10:26:28 AM] Oceanstuck: kinda weird youd say that
[10:26:33 AM] Oceanstuck: considering hes gone quiet on us
[10:26:38 AM] Helper: I do not know what the messenger has sent you, or what they call themselves.
[10:26:53 AM] Oceanstuck: how would we contact this messenger
[10:26:53 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): Can you find out?
[10:27:14 AM] Archery 2000: would this count as a message? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r4PMimSF7s
[10:27:15 AM] Archery 2000: ?
[10:27:34 AM] Helper: Of course not, they are messages for you, not I!
[10:27:45 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: ....hwat
[10:28:01 AM] Archery 2000: was it sent by you?
[10:28:36 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): I have sent messages, Helper. Messages addressed to you. Did you receive them?
[10:29:07 AM] Helper: I do not understand your tongue.
[10:29:17 AM] Oceanstuck: he sent you shit
[10:29:21 AM] Helper: I am no longer the messenger.
[10:29:23 AM] Oceanstuck: he wants to know if you got it
[10:29:39 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): They are not for you to pass along
[10:29:51 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): They are for you to peruse
[10:29:57 AM] Grey: I believe it's clear helper hasn't gotten anything
[10:29:59 AM] Helper: The messenger has gotten them. You are trying my patience, adventurer, I have explained such.
[10:30:19 AM] Archery 2000: my apologies helper, we have been rather rude hosts
[10:30:23 AM] Kidpichu: hi ^-^
[10:30:23 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Guys, lets calm down with all of the questions
[10:30:25 AM] Oceanstuck: sry
[10:30:28 AM] Oceanstuck: hi pichu
[10:30:43 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): It is my belief that I am not correctly wording my question. I am trying to correct this problem.
[10:31:01 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Oh also helper, I'm very sorry for my persistence last time you were here, i did not mean to come off as impatient
[10:31:30 AM] Helper: I understand your question, rude one. I am not an idiot.
[10:31:41 AM] Oceanstuck: welp
[10:31:45 AM] Grey: Helper, if I may ask, how can we get your hat to you once we've found it?
[10:32:10 AM] Helper: The one who owns the hat is the messenger.
[10:32:21 AM] Oceanstuck: how can we contact the messenger
[10:32:21 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): Um, let me try this. Uh, Helper? Did the Messenger give you any messages from me?
[10:32:24 AM] Archery 2000: we have to get him to deliver it to you?
[10:32:26 AM] Helper: The messenger may relay messages across time and space.
[10:32:36 AM] Helper: You simply give me a message.

[10:32:43 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: I am very confused by all of this
[10:32:50 AM] Archery 2000: I see
[10:32:56 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: so when we get your hat, we have to use the hat to bring the hat to you?
[10:33:05 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): I wonder if that's the point Thorin
[10:33:06 AM] Oceanstuck: pfp
[10:33:19 AM] Helper: I have not gotten any messages, adventurer.
[10:33:27 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): There we go
[10:33:34 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): Did it right
[10:33:36 AM] Helper: The messenger gets the messages. They relay the messages.
[10:33:45 AM] Archery 2000: can they choose not to relay the messages?
[10:33:46 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: :^)
[10:33:48 AM] Helper: I have spoken such three times now.
[10:33:48 AM] Oceanstuck: how do we give them messages to relay
[10:34:06 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): You did not speak sense so we did not understand
[10:34:12 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Oi
[10:34:13 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: mugen
[10:34:15 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: chill
[10:34:17 AM] Oceanstuck: nah i think that was just you
[10:34:21 AM] Grey: I do believe we are being a bit repetitive.
[10:34:22 AM] Oceanstuck: shot
[10:34:26 AM] Helper: It is the job of the messanger to do such things as giving you chances to relay. I am not he.
[10:34:28 AM] Wolfcat: Mugen stop being rude : /
[10:34:33 AM] Oceanstuck: dammit
[10:34:37 AM] Betrayed in the Octagon: Can we focus on something more productive
[10:34:43 AM] Archery 2000: Helper, can the messenger choose not to relay the message?
[10:34:51 AM] Helper: Yes.
[10:34:52 AM] Oceanstuck: is there anything we could do to get him to let us send stuff
[10:34:58 AM | Edited 10:35:05 AM] Archery 2000: should we trust the current messenger?
[10:35:08 AM] Helper: I do not know whom it is.
[10:35:14 AM] Helper: You claim to know.

[10:35:29 AM] Grey: We believe Mason has the hat
[10:35:34 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: i believe his name is "mason" but we are not in contact with him
[10:35:38 AM] Helper: Then he is the messenger.
[10:35:41 AM] Grey: and is being chased by some sort of Shadow
[10:35:45 AM] Oceanstuck: how do we gain contact with him
[10:35:53 AM] Helper: I do not know.
[10:35:55 AM] Oceanstuck: aw
[10:35:59 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Hmmm
[10:36:04 AM] Helper: For I, once again, am not the messenger.
[10:36:21 AM] Oceanstuck: welp
[10:36:25 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: lets let soe of the other people ask some questions, don't want to be rude and hog all of the question time
[10:36:34 AM] Oceanstuck: ok
[10:36:37 AM] Betrayed in the Octagon: what's the meaning of the image you posted in the thread?
[10:37:21 AM] Helper: I have not given you any image.
[10:37:29 AM] Eve Sim: I understand helper. I'm sorry for the barrage by the others, we're not entirely organized at the moment
[10:37:37 AM] Oceanstuck: spirk, hes not the one posting in the thread
[10:37:41 AM] Betrayed in the Octagon: oh
[10:37:44 AM] Oceanstuck: eve were never organized
[10:37:44 AM] Betrayed in the Octagon: well shit
[10:37:45 AM] Grey: Told ya so
[10:37:46 AM] Archery 2000: Helper, is there any meaning when you call us hero/heroes/heroine?
[10:37:46 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Our communication skills are not very advanced.
[10:38:01 AM | Edited 10:38:07 AM] Archery 2000: or is it merely interchangeable with adventurer?
[10:38:23 AM] Helper: Young archer, a rock will always be a rock, no matter what you happen to call it.
[10:38:48 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Helper, I've been wondering. why were you calling some of us demons?
[10:38:51 AM] Helper: However, the demons seek to drive you off your course.
[10:38:56 AM] Helper: Be wary.

[10:39:07 AM] Archery 2000: are there still only two demons here?
[10:39:39 AM] Helper: I believe there are three now.
[10:39:50 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: any idea who the third one is?
[10:39:53 AM] Helper: One more by the name of link.
[10:39:57 AM] Oceanstuck: !!
[10:39:57 AM] Betrayed in the Octagon: how can we recognize them?
[10:39:57 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: what
[10:40:03 AM] Oceanstuck: hwat
[10:40:06 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: wait I am a demon?
[10:40:10 AM] Archery 2000: so ADULT LINK is a demon?
[10:40:11 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): Thorin is a demon? What?
[10:40:27 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: I'm not sure how i feel about this.
[10:40:28 AM] Oceanstuck: its because i made an awful injoke about him isnt it
[10:40:30 AM] Helper: This is only my opinion on the subject.
[10:40:40 AM] Oceanstuck: wait
[10:40:43 AM] Mando 寒山: Can I get a list of all known demons
[10:40:49 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Mando
[10:40:50 AM] Oceanstuck: the other two demons, are they the same ones from before?
[10:40:57 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Circle, Dawn, and i guess Me
[10:41:06 AM] Oceanstuck: yeah but circle and dawn arent here
[10:41:16 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Oh that is true.
[10:41:19 AM] Helper: The potential demon speaks the truth.
[10:41:19 AM] Eve Sim: Ocean, it's doesn't matter
[10:41:19 AM] Oceanstuck: so im not sure if hes referring to them
[10:41:26 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: wait
[10:41:31 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: ocean is a potential demon?
[10:41:40 AM] Eve Sim: No guys Link is
[10:41:42 AM] Betrayed in the Octagon: I think he means you
[10:41:46 AM] Helper: No, you.
[10:41:47 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: oh
[10:41:49 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: alright
[10:41:51 AM] Oceanstuck: \(think)
[10:42:07 AM] Eve Sim: Seriously, Helper. I apologize deeply.
[10:42:11 AM] Archery 2000: Helper, I recall that the last time you spoke to us, you mentioned that people don't simply become demons
[10:42:13 AM] Oceanstuck: [10:41 AM] Helper: <<< No, you.im lost who do you mean by "you"
[10:42:20 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): Eve knock it off
[10:42:28 AM] Archery 2000: No you was referring to link
[10:42:33 AM] Oceanstuck: ok
[10:42:37 AM | Edited 10:42:47 AM] Archery 2000: why is it that Link may now be a demon even though he wasn't previously
[10:42:45 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: well i mean
[10:42:50 AM] Helper: You ask him.
[10:42:51 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: i had been asking if i was one
[10:42:54 AM] Oceanstuck: maybe he just couldnt tell the first time
[10:42:57 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: and i ended up being called impatient
[10:42:58 AM | Edited 10:43:56 AM] Archery 2000: helper, being a demon is a matter of choice?
[10:44:02 AM] Helper: If that is all, I will be taking my leave of you.
[10:44:12 AM | Edited 10:44:43 AM] Oceanstuck: wait
[10:44:20 AM] Grey: I have one more question if that's alright
[10:44:21 AM] Archery 2000: helper, is being a demon a matter of choice?
[10:44:25 AM | Edited 10:44:33 AM] Helper: I would take an aspirin if I had hands.
[10:44:26 AM] Oceanstuck: me too
[10:44:45 AM] Eve Sim: Thank you helper.
[10:44:46 AM | Edited 10:44:56 AM] Archery 2000: Helper, are you in pain?
[10:44:58 AM] Helper: Yes, being a demon is a matter of choice.
[10:45:06 AM] Oceanstuck: how so
[10:45:13 AM] Oceanstuck: define this choice
[10:45:26 AM] Helper: Simply listening to all of you has given me considerable pain in my skull.
[10:45:32 AM] Archery 2000: My apologies
[10:45:35 AM] Oceanstuck: sry
[10:45:40 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: sorry about that helper.
[10:45:47 AM | Edited 10:46:15 AM] Archery 2000: I hope you do not hold it against us, we are just surprised at a second opportunity to speak to you
[10:46:05 AM] Grey: okay, now I have two questions
[10:46:14 AM] Eve Sim: Grey, he's leaving
[10:46:21 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: we really need to improve our communication skills, and decide what to say instead of barraging you with questions.
[10:46:26 AM] Oceanstuck: yeah
[10:46:37 AM] Grey: Yes, but I'm wondering why he has a headache if he's dead.
[10:46:43 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: he is a spirit
[10:46:50 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: he has a ghostly headache
[10:46:54 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: or so i would imagine
[10:46:55 AM] Archery 2000: helper, is there any final advice you can give us?
[10:47:00 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): Spirits feel pain too guys
[10:47:00 AM] Eve Sim: ^
[10:47:04 AM] Oceanstuck: yeah that
[10:47:15 AM] Oceanstuck: lol link ninjad you
[10:47:20 AM] Helper: The level of idiocy has reached paranormal levels.
[10:47:26 AM] Eve Sim: ^^^^^^
[10:47:30 AM] Oceanstuck: sounds about normal
[10:47:31 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Sorry helper
[10:47:41 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): Anyway
[10:47:43 AM] Archery 2000: Sorry helper, but I still have to ask, is there any final advice you can give us?
[10:47:48 AM] Grey: It's a fact that the larger a group is, the lower their IQ gets.
[10:47:59 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: everyone shh
[10:48:04 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): Grey has one more question yes?
[10:48:04 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: please
[10:48:10 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: im starting to get a headache too
[10:48:19 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: and i imagine that Helpers is way larger
[10:48:25 AM] Helper: I will answer the tactician's last question.
[10:48:34 AM] Helper: And give one last piece of advice.

[10:49:30 AM] Oceanstuck: leans in to listen closely
[10:49:46 AM] Oceanstuck: which is kinda pointless since this is all text
[10:50:43 AM] Grey: Recently we've seen that the group of people who imprisoned Doug have found where some of us reside. I just want to know, who's still safe?
[10:51:55 AM] Helper: Whomever they cannot get to. While the group may know your location, they might not have the means to get to it.
[10:52:22 AM] Archery 2000: and the advice?
[10:52:27 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): May I ask one final question before you give your advice?
[10:52:33 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: i believe that was the advice archery
[10:52:42 AM] Oceanstuck: too late moogs
[10:52:49 AM] Helper: I would protect your mailing addresses though. Just in case my hat is used for nefarious deeds.
[10:53:13 AM] Helper: I will allow one last question from the rude one.
[10:53:29 AM] Helper: But only to give him a chance to redeem himself.

[10:53:42 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): What is the goal of your current journey?
[10:53:59 AM] Helper: He has not redeemed himself.
[10:53:59 AM] *** Stevey "Wolfe" Freeman gasp ***
[10:54:02 AM] Stevey "Wolfe" Freeman: helper
[10:54:08 AM] Grey: Saw that coming.
[10:54:10 AM] Oceanstuck: this revelation surprises no one
[10:54:13 AM] Stevey "Wolfe" Freeman: My friend! :D
[10:54:26 AM] Oceanstuck: LE GASP
[10:54:40 AM] Eve Sim: Helper, what was your last word of advice?
[10:54:45 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Well helper, i hope youquest to get you body back is successful, we shall continue to search for and regain your hat to you!
[10:54:49 AM] Oceanstuck: dont give your mailing addresses
[10:54:51 AM] Helper: I stated in the beginning, and throughout my replies, that I still no longer have my body, and am in search of it.
[10:54:51 AM | Edited 10:55:12 AM] Archery 2000: yes, if you've said your advice, could you repeat it?
[10:55:22 AM] Helper: I have not stated it yet.
[10:55:24 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): The question was to clarify this. I thank you for it
[10:55:34 AM] Helper: I am thinking up some good sage advice.
[10:55:35 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): Your advice, please?
[10:55:41 AM] Archery 2000: haha, we're all ears
[10:55:56 AM | Edited 10:55:58 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Helper you have the greatest personality
[10:56:00 AM] Oceanstuck: i like you helper
[10:56:10 AM] Grey: Why does Mugen's comments read like a Phoenix Wright cross examination.
[10:56:25 AM] Oceanstuck: PFFPT
[10:56:48 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): Because I'm not rude, I am merely not intimidated.
[10:56:55 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: >_<
[10:56:58 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: stfu the rude one
[10:57:00 AM] Oceanstuck: hahahahahahaha
[10:57:01 AM] Mando 寒山: Not mutually exclusive duderino
[10:57:01 AM] Wolfcat: Nah you're pretty rude
[10:58:39 AM] Helper: Remember that, while you change events in the past, the future may also contact you. Also, the rude one is very rude, and also easily intimidated at the mention of their past. This goes for your member, and theirs.
[10:58:59 AM] Archery 2000: theirs?
[10:59:04 AM] Archery 2000: oh
[10:59:07 AM] Archery 2000: thank you
[10:59:18 AM] Oceanstuck: huh
[10:59:20 AM] Wolfcat: Thank you very much, Helper.
[10:59:23 AM] Archery 2000: again, sorry for the badgering
[10:59:25 AM] Grey: Thank you Helper.
[10:59:30 AM] ₳ḎUL₸_ⱢINĶ: Thank you for the sageful advice helper, i hope you get your body soon
[10:59:44 AM] Helper: I think that statement sets us at even odds, the one who calls themself Mugen.
[10:59:54 AM] Mugen Kagemaru (W♔♙): That past belongs to another. He may be connected to me, and it was he who was angered by the remider
[11:00:01 AM] Oceanstuck: bullshit
[11:00:01 AM] *** Helper has left ***

Helper

"The level of idiocy has reached paranormal levels."



Checkpoint #3

Back on Within Hubris, various players began sending Patrem questions via PM's. Unfortunately, he rarely, if ever, responded to them. However, on , Patrem finally returned - likely due to the "New Wave Bossa Nova" finally taking effect.

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Mar 15 2015, 08:35 PM Post #379

I am in the midst of my work child, what is it that you must call on me in such a place?



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Mar 15 2015, 08:39 PM Post #380

hey dude

can we get a selfie



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Mar 15 2015, 08:44 PM Post #381

Do you think you are worthy of my visage, child?



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Mar 15 2015, 08:47 PM Post #382

>implying that they care

Hah. Ha ha, funny.

Come now. Don't be shy. That's my girlfriend's department.



Stevean2

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Mar 15 2015, 08:48 PM Post #383

A majority of us have contributed to this avertion of chaos. Found multiple truths and therefore aided you in your work... so yes...

or alternatively...

don't be shy!



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Mar 15 2015, 08:53 PM Post #384

And if you think us not worthy of your visage, you still have deemed us at least somewhat worthy of your time based upon your actions.

If you decline to show, perhaps you could still do us the honor of telling us something.



ihatesigningupforstufflikethis

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Mar 15 2015, 09:00 PM Post #385

patrem i bet yr cute



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Mar 15 2015, 09:40 PM Post #387

You have all amused me greatly. So despite requesting in such a childish manner, I may grant you the privilege
of a glimpse at my current form. However, this may take time, as capturing and sending a depiction of it from
where I currently dwell is a task of great complexity. Just as the method in which I dwell is that of complexity, and often is the cause of disrepair in electrical devices.

All this aside, is there anything you request at this time children, or shall I return to my work?




The players ask Patrem for a selfie. Surprisingly, he obliges - though he claims it will take some time as his current form and location corrupt electronic devices. In the meantime, he offers to answer some of the players' questions.

archery2000

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Mar 15 2015, 09:45 PM Post #388

Hey Patrem,

Why do you keep ignoring my PMs? Am I asking the wrong questions?



Stevean2

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Mar 15 2015, 09:51 PM Post #389

On what we believe is Helper's channel "M" on Youtube.. there was a shadow at the end of his latest video, do you know what it is?



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Mar 15 2015, 09:59 PM Post #390

Also, what are demons and how do you become one? Can you stop being one?




The players ask Patrem why he's been ignoring their PM's. They also ask him about the shadowy figure seen at the end of the video "R". Expecting Patrem to respond in his usual condescending way, the player Stevey begins mocking him in the Internet Detectives Skype group, writing up the following mock response: "Shadow's come in many forms child. Maybe your primative eyes misinterpreted unimiportant information as something of siginificance.". Shortly after this, however...

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Mar 15 2015, 10:03 PM Post #391

Shadow's come in many forms child. Maybe your primative eyes misinterpreted unimiportant information as something of siginificance.

Also chide me not should I be sans response of your tedious masked requests, I give each deep observation prior to action.
However those that needn't require said observation to begin with often do not warrant my attention for I am
quite busy and time truly is finite, even for one such as I.



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Mar 15 2015, 10:07 PM Post #392

/Patrem\ Mar 15 2015, 10:03 PM
Shadow's come in many forms child. Maybe your primative eyes misinterpreted unimiportant information as something of siginificance.

I said this as a joke to my friends in our chat a few moments ago...
... how did you...?



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Mar 15 2015, 10:12 PM Post #393

What is the group attempting to do at the Fishery? What exactly do they plan to do with Doug?



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Mar 15 2015, 10:13 PM Post #394

im here guys. hello

ok i have a quick question. what are the defining characteristics of a demon? shits come up a bit in a few conversations and i think we should probably get that sorted out



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Mar 15 2015, 10:48 PM Post #395

Quote:
I said this as a joke to my friends in our chat a few moments ago...
... how did you...?


I am always watching you brats, for it is unwise to leave children unattended.

As for the place of worship, my children are simply attempting to better themselves for the coming times.
As for douglas, I have stated before what shall become of him is unchangeable as I have spoken previously and
I have no reason to speak of what is currently happening to him, so I shall not.

Quote:
ok i have a quick question. what are the defining characteristics of a demon? shits come up a bit in a few conversations and i think we should probably get that sorted out


I know nothing of these "Demons" of which you speak. Why must you pry me of such foolish imaginings, what next? Shall you beseech me of the monsters beneath the place in which you rest?




Patrem responds using the exact same mock phrase posted by the player Stevey, revealing that he is capable of observing the players' private conversations on different websites. He also explains that he has not answered many of the players' PM's because he views them as weak attempts to squeeze more information out of him. In regards to the players' other questions, Patrem's unwilling to divulge any more information about Doug. He also claims to not know anything about the "demons" mentioned by Helper and he chides the players for asking about such foolish things.

Back in the Internet Detectives Skype group, the players begin concocting a plan to capture Patrem using their Ocarina powers, writing the following: "Since Patrem is the leader of the cult we should capture him". Just like before, Patrem witnesses this message and responds on Within Hubris:

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Mar 15 2015, 11:35 PM Post #397

Quote:
Since Patrem is the leader of the cult
we should capture him


I would be delighted if you would speak more of these grandiose propositions. Please, if you honestly believe
you carry knowledge not of my own understanding, do enlightened me. For surely you and your fellow "Detectives"
are supremely powerful beings that I should not trifle with.



uggc://ibpnebb.pbz/v/f0FHLqCjLMXO

Solved: http://vocaroo.com/i/s0SUYdPwYZKB



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Mar 16 2015, 12:08 AM Post #402

Good to know higher beings are still capable of sarcasm.

But since you asked, I'll tell you: We may not be powerful beings, but you should never count us out. We have a power of our own.



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Mar 16 2015, 12:29 AM Post #403

Quote:
We have a power of our own.


Then try and wield this power child, see what it gets you in return. If you have some plan to "catch" me,
I would be most pleased to see you execute it.



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Mar 16 2015, 01:05 AM Post #408

Tempting, but I think we'll save that for later.

For now though, I think it's time us detectives fell off of your radar for a while.

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Edited by GreyouTT, Mar 16 2015, 01:22 AM.



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Mar 16 2015, 01:38 AM Post #409

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Do you think you have sort of control over me? Do you even understand the power you attempt to wield?
Look upon your foe, and kneel.




Patrem scoffs at the players and dares them to attempt their plan. Instead, the players submit the "Stone Mask" and the "Gibdo Mask" in an attempt to hide their private conversations from him. Unfortunately, this has no effect. In response, Patrem finally posts his selfie - though it seems to he heavily corrupted.

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Mar 16 2015, 01:46 AM Post #410

More Technical issues.. huh?



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Mar 16 2015, 01:59 AM Post #411

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Pigma Dengar? Is that you?



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Mar 16 2015, 03:39 AM Post #413

My word, you're the only handsomest ethereal entity I have ever set my eyes on, what a lovely complexion you have!



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Mar 16 2015, 03:50 AM Post #414

My true intent was to show you the form I currently reside in. However the power radiated from my own presence,
and the complexity of delivering such a thing to this place resulted in showing nothing more than my essence, and
some scrambled remains. Pity, the sight of my form would have sent you all into quite a bit of turmoil.



archery2000

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Mar 16 2015, 03:52 AM Post #415

/Patrem\ Mar 16 2015, 03:50 AM
My true intent was to show you the form I currently reside in. However the power radiated from my own presence,

and the complexity of delivering such a thing to this place resulted in showing nothing more than my essence, and

some scrambled remains. Pity, the sight of my form would have sent you all into quite a bit of turmoil.

Is the face found in the bottom right corner a remnant of the original image?



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Mar 16 2015, 03:54 AM Post #416

Yes child.




Patrem confirms the the face seen overlaying parts of the image are remnants of the original selfie before his essence corrupted the file. Interestingly, he notes that the appearance of his true face would cause the players a great deal of turmoil for some reason...

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Mar 16 2015, 04:05 AM Post #418

Quote:
he seems calmer now than when we tried to discuss capturing him

I found it quite amusing, as it always is, but most certainly it is when you think you can use your toys on me.



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Mar 16 2015, 04:20 AM Post #421

I will answer but one final question, I have many things I must attend to and have no time for the incessant babbling of children.



archery2000

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Mar 16 2015, 04:26 AM Post #422

How can we can contact Mason ourselves? If we are unable to, could you kindly put us in contact with him?



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Mar 16 2015, 04:35 AM Post #423

Mason is a foolish child, there is no need for you to contact him. However I shall tell you that he is currently within his own residence. There is more to know of him, but it shall surely come to you in time, you are not infants and I shan't spoon feed you.

Now I shall depart, as this child shall soon awaken and I still have tasks to address.




Patrem informs the players that there is currently no need for them to contact Mason. He also claims that Mason is currently at home, implying that he's safe for the time being. He also claims that "this child" shall soon awaken, though who exactly this is referring to is unknown. This full conversation is archived below:

Chat with Patrem

/Patrem\ 9:35 PM: "I am in the midst of my work child, what is it that you must call on me in such a place?"
Spirkiroid 9:39 PM: "hey dude can we get a selfie"
/Patrem\ 9:44 PM: "Do you think you are worthy of my visage, child?"
Mugen Kagemaru 9:47 PM: "Hah. Ha ha, funny. Come now. Don't be shy. That's my girlfriend's department."
Stevey 9:48 PM: "A majority of us have contributed to this avertion of chaos. Found multiple truths and therefore aided you in your work... so yes... or alternatively... don't be shy!"
Rafal 9:53 PM: "And if you think us not worthy of your visage, you still have deemed us at least somewhat worthy of your time based upon your actions. If you decline to show, perhaps you could still do us the honor of telling us something."
ihatesigningupforstufflikethis 10:00 PM: "patrem i bet yr cute"
GreyouTT 10:01 PM: "WELL, WELL, WELL. You actually posted. Now that you're here, I think it's time we got some things out in the open. For example, you seem to be sticking to PMs quite a bit there my inter-dimensional friend. Why so secretive?"
/Patrem\ 10:40 PM: "You have all amused me greatly. So despite requesting in such a childish manner, I may grant you the privilege of a glimpse at my current form. However, this may take time, as capturing and sending a depiction of it from where I currently dwell is a task of great complexity. Just as the method in which I dwell is that of complexity, and often is the cause of disrepair in electrical devices. All this aside, is there anything you request at this time children, or shall I return to my work?"
Archery 10:45 PM: "Hey Patrem, Why do you keep ignoring my PMs? Am I asking the wrong questions?"
Stevey 10:51 PM: "On what we believe is Helper's channel "M" on Youtube.. there was a shadow at the end of his latest video, do you know what it is?"
Archery 10:59 PM: "Also, what are demons and how do you become one? Can you stop being one?"
/Patrem\ 11:03 PM: "Shadow's come in many forms child. Maybe your primative eyes misinterpreted unimiportant information as something of siginificance. Also chide me not should I be sans response of your tedious masked requests, I give each deep observation prior to action. However those that needn't require said observation to begin with often do not warrant my attention for I am quite busy and time truly is finite, even for one such as I."
Stevey 11:07 PM: "I said this as a joke to my friends in our chat a few moments ago... ... how did you...?"
GreyouTT 11:12 PM: "What is the group attempting to do at the Fishery? What exactly do they plan to do with Doug?"
Oceanstuck 11:13 PM: "im here guys. hello ok i have a quick question. what are the defining characteristics of a demon? shits come up a bit in a few conversations and i think we should probably get that sorted out"
/Patrem\ 11:48 PM: "I am always watching you brats, for it is unwise to leave children unattended. As for the place of worship, my children are simply attempting to better themselves for the coming times. As for douglas, I have stated before what shall become of him is unchangeable as I have spoken previously and I have no reason to speak of what is currently happening to him, so I shall not."
/Patrem\ 11:13 PM: "I know nothing of these "Demons" of which you speak. Why must you pry me of such foolish imaginings, what next? Shall you beseech me of the monsters beneath the place in which you rest?"

Mugen Kagemaru 11:53 PM: "Someone talked about demons and we're asking in case it becomes relevant. Better to look into red herrings than to ignore the right trail when it's revealed."
((Patrem begins quoting players' messages from Skype and responding to them in his posts. These quoted messages will be italicized.))
/Patrem\ 12:35 AM: "Since Patrem is the leader of the cult we should capture him"
/Patrem\ 12:35 AM: "I would be delighted if you would speak more of these grandiose propositions. Please, if you honestly believe you carry knowledge not of my own understanding, do enlightened me. For surely you and your fellow "Detectives" are supremely powerful beings that I should not trifle with."
/Patrem\ 12:35 AM: ((A distorted audio file is posted))

Stevey 1:00 AM: "We're the most powerful thing since god my friend. We clearly have no need of these petty games..."
Archery 1:02 AM: "Ignore his insolence, forgive us father, for we have sinned..."
GreyouTT 1:08 AM: "Good to know higher beings are still capable of sarcasm. But since you asked, I'll tell you: We may not be powerful beings, but you should never count us out. We have a power of our own."
/Patrem\ 1:29 AM: "Then try and wield this power child, see what it gets you in return. If you have some plan to "catch" me, I would be most pleased to see you execute it."
GreyouTT 2:05 AM: "Tempting, but I think we'll save that for later. For now though, I think it's time us detectives fell off of your radar for a while."
GreyouTT 2:05 AM: ((The "Stone Mask" and "Gibdo Mask" are both submitted))
/Patrem\ 2:38 AM: "Do you think you have sort of control over me? Do you even understand the power you attempt to wield? Look upon your foe, and kneel."
/Patrem\ 2:38 AM: ((Patrem posts a photo of himself though it is incredibly distorted))
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Stevey 2:46 AM: "More Technical issues.. huh?"
Archery 4:39 AM: "My word, you're the only handsomest ethereal entity I have ever set my eyes on, what a lovely complexion you have!"
/Patrem\ 4:50 AM: "My true intent was to show you the form I currently reside in. However the power radiated from my own presence, and the complexity of delivering such a thing to this place resulted in showing nothing more than my essence, and some scrambled remains. Pity, the sight of my form would have sent you all into quite a bit of turmoil."
Archery 4:52 AM: "Is the face found in the bottom right corner a remnant of the original image?"
/Patrem\ 4:54 AM: "Yes child."
Archery 4:56 AM: "Apologies about the comments earlier regarding capturing you. On a more serious note, is there any way we can contact Mason, or could you kindly put us in contact with him?"
/Patrem\ 5:05 AM: "I found it quite amusing, as it always is, but most certainly it is when you think you can use your toys on me."
Archery 5:10 AM: "Amusing it might be, but the statement is true, isn't it. You aren't asking us to cower in fear or kneel before you unlike before. If you do not mind, could you answer a few questions we have, including the prior question?"
Helix 5:12 AM: "Previously I've messaged you a couple of questions though I wasn't sure if it was something you could answer. In /notes, it is said that two of us must die. Is there a reason for this 'sacrifice'? What exactly is "her will"? Is /notes written by doug or you? And, if I may boldly ask again, are you against or for the idea of humans like us ascending?"
/Patrem\ 5:20 AM: "I will answer but one final question, I have many things I must attend to and have no time for the incessant babbling of children."
Archery 5:26 AM: "How can we can contact Mason ourselves? If we are unable to, could you kindly put us in contact with him?"
/Patrem\ 5:35 AM: "Mason is a foolish child, there is no need for you to contact him. However I shall tell you that he is currently within his own residence. There is more to know of him, but it shall surely come to you in time, you are not infants and I shan't spoon feed you. Now I shall depart, as this child shall soon awaken and I still have tasks to address."

On , Patrem finally responded to some of the players' PM's. Though the full context of this conversation was not archived, it is known that Patrem threatened the player GreyouTT's life:

Patrem

"I will make falsehood of your life. In any time you should be my foe, know your foe is timeless."



In response, the player Mugen Kagemaru began publicly taunting Patrem on Within Hubris:

Mugen Kagemaru

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Mar 16 2015, 10:52 PM Post #427

/Patrem\
... I will make falsehood of [Greyou's] life.


...

... in any time you should be my foe, know your foe is timeless...



Haaaaaah... Ha ha.. Hah!

And they say empty words are nothing. Fuckers were wrong, that shit's hilarious!

Edited by Mugen Kagemaru, Mar 16 2015, 10:53 PM.



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Mar 16 2015, 10:59 PM Post #428

Welp, I'm done for the week.

Goodbye world.

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Edited by GreyouTT, Mar 16 2015, 11:12 PM.



/Patrem\

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Mar 16 2015, 11:18 PM Post #429

Quote:
Haaaaaah... Ha ha.. Hah!


And they say empty words are nothing. Fuckers were wrong, that shit's hilarious!


Falsehood of ones life is to say that I shall render ones status of living to now be false, as yours shall soon be, and in the most terrible ways imaginable should you continue to act as though your position with me is any different than the other children. I have watched you speak as though you wield some form of power, remember this well child. The only one in power here is me.



Mugen Kagemaru

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Mar 16 2015, 11:23 PM Post #430

/Patrem\ Mar 16 2015, 11:18 PM
The only one in power here is me.

The only one pf this world, perhaps, and therein lies your error.

I'M NOT OF THIS WORLD YOU BLIND LITTLE FERRET




Patrem mocks the player Mugen Kagemaru for his arrogance and childish remarks, though this only results in yet another embarrassing display from Mugen.

Thankfully, the next day on "", Mason finally returned to the players with an update.

3/7/15 - It's been a while




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